The Ukraine war thread
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wrote on 22 Dec 2022, 02:26 last edited by
TFW you forgot it's picture day.
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wrote on 22 Dec 2022, 12:23 last edited by
@Renauda the woman (Can I say that?) is Sen. Collins from Maine.
"In this handout photo provided by the Ukrainian Presidential Press Office, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy (center) poses for a photo with Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (second left), Senator Susan Collins (second right), Senator John Barrasso (left) and Senator John Cornyn (right) in Kyiv, Ukraine, on Saturday, May 14, 2022."
It's an older photo, and I just posted it for the look on Zelensky's face.
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wrote on 22 Dec 2022, 12:52 last edited by
His speech was fine though. Reaching out to the American people was smart. I do hope the reluctant incoming GOP congress critters get a clue as to how important this really is.
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wrote on 22 Dec 2022, 13:59 last edited by
Interesting piece on Putin and the real situation. Wordier than it needs to be, but worth it, I think.
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Interesting piece on Putin and the real situation. Wordier than it needs to be, but worth it, I think.
wrote on 22 Dec 2022, 16:31 last edited by RenaudaYou’re right about wordiness and there’s also a lot of unnecessary anti-Trump squelch that detracts from the good points being presented.
Interesting to read the Kremlin’s reaction to Zelenskyi’s visit and speech. Once again it is denying any responsibility for its ongoing aggression and placing the blame entirely in the US and NATO. I also it is playing up the delivery of the Patriot system. Makes sense as 99.9% of Russians have no clue that it is a purely defensive weapon against incoming missiles.
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You’re right about wordiness and there’s also a lot of unnecessary anti-Trump squelch that detracts from the good points being presented.
Interesting to read the Kremlin’s reaction to Zelenskyi’s visit and speech. Once again it is denying any responsibility for its ongoing aggression and placing the blame entirely in the US and NATO. I also it is playing up the delivery of the Patriot system. Makes sense as 99.9% of Russians have no clue that it is a purely defensive weapon against incoming missiles.
wrote on 22 Dec 2022, 17:36 last edited by@Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:
You’re right about wordiness and there’s also a lot of unnecessary anti-Trump squelch that detracts from the good points being presented.
Interesting to read the Kremlin’s reaction to Zelenskyi’s visit and speech. Once again it is denying any responsibility for its ongoing aggression and placing the blame entirely in the US and NATO. I also it is playing up the delivery of the Patriot system. Makes sense as 99.9% of Russians have no clue that it is a purely defensive weapon against incoming missiles.
“You’re forcing our hand by shooting down all the missiles we’re launching at you”
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@Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:
You’re right about wordiness and there’s also a lot of unnecessary anti-Trump squelch that detracts from the good points being presented.
Interesting to read the Kremlin’s reaction to Zelenskyi’s visit and speech. Once again it is denying any responsibility for its ongoing aggression and placing the blame entirely in the US and NATO. I also it is playing up the delivery of the Patriot system. Makes sense as 99.9% of Russians have no clue that it is a purely defensive weapon against incoming missiles.
“You’re forcing our hand by shooting down all the missiles we’re launching at you”
wrote on 22 Dec 2022, 21:01 last edited by RenaudaThe most common word in the Kremlin-speak this past year or so has become провокация (provokatsiya). It needs no translation. A was common Soviet term used throughout the Cold War against the West as well. It is supposed to help to reinforce the blameless innocence of the Russian state in its peace loving aggressive foreign policy and militarism.
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wrote on 27 Dec 2022, 17:17 last edited by Renauda
Not sure about any these outcomes in 2023:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-63987113
Still, I would wager any one of them is more plausible than a single one of Medvedev’s predictions George posted in the other thread.
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Not sure about any these outcomes in 2023:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-63987113
Still, I would wager any one of them is more plausible than a single one of Medvedev’s predictions George posted in the other thread.
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I don’t either, but I sure like the predictions of retaking Crimea. From their lips to God’s ear.
wrote on 27 Dec 2022, 19:42 last edited byYes, it would be just desserts for the Kremlin.
Particularly in light of statements made by Lavrov and Peskov the last 24 hours:
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wrote on 28 Dec 2022, 19:17 last edited by
Why am I not surprised?
"We fight with our brains. They fight with numbers. Because their resources --we're not revealing some secret here -- are much greater than ours," he said.
In some locations, including in Bakhmut, photographs and videos posted by military bloggers and even the soldiers themselves point to outdated battlefield tactics that are reminiscent of World War-I trench warfare, in which waves of infantrymen advance across open fields and try to storm enemy trenches, only to be mowed down by gunfire.
"They just push and shove their way through. And a lot of them die. Because they have no tactics, nothing of the sort," another soldier said. "They just go like meat. There were some cases when the infantry said that they went in without any [armed vehicles], or without machine guns."
Full story:
https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-kreminna-battle-recapture-russia-supply-lines/32197165.html
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wrote on 30 Dec 2022, 22:11 last edited by
Rest in pieces.
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