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    Mik
    wrote on 29 Nov 2022, 16:51 last edited by Mik
    #1252

    He's not going to give it up without something where he can claim victory. If we want Russia out of Ukraine and Crimea, it's going to be a long slog. However painful, from an American perspective I think it's worthwhile to do so. Ukrainians may well have a different opinion.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • M Mik
      29 Nov 2022, 16:51

      He's not going to give it up without something where he can claim victory. If we want Russia out of Ukraine and Crimea, it's going to be a long slog. However painful, from an American perspective I think it's worthwhile to do so. Ukrainians may well have a different opinion.

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      Renauda
      wrote on 29 Nov 2022, 17:10 last edited by
      #1253

      @Mik

      No argument from me. If Ukrainians can continue hold out this winter despite ongoing Russian destruction of their energy infrastructure, they will prevail militarily. As for Russia it wins by losing. To quote Timothy Snyder:

      “Russia wins by losing. Russia really needs to lose this war, and to lose it decisively,” he said. “The whole colonial move towards Ukraine is a distraction, a substitute for the internal changes which Russia really has to make.”

      Elbows up!

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        Mik
        wrote on 29 Nov 2022, 21:18 last edited by
        #1254

        The noose tightens?

        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/nato-commits-to-future-ukraine-membership-drums-up-aid/ar-AA14G6V8?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=a4a055b4943140d49b455ae1c3d3b4d1

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          George K
          wrote on 2 Dec 2022, 15:55 last edited by
          #1255

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            George K
            wrote on 2 Dec 2022, 16:00 last edited by
            #1256

            @darthputin is the best.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              Mik
              wrote on 2 Dec 2022, 16:18 last edited by
              #1257

              What a bizarre conversation.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                George K
                wrote on 3 Dec 2022, 14:07 last edited by
                #1258

                This smells like propaganda, but I wouldn't be surprised if it were true.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  Mik
                  wrote on 3 Dec 2022, 15:08 last edited by
                  #1259

                  I'd be very surprised.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • G George K
                    3 Dec 2022, 14:07

                    This smells like propaganda, but I wouldn't be surprised if it were true.

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                    Renauda
                    wrote on 3 Dec 2022, 16:09 last edited by
                    #1260

                    @George-K

                    Likely story. Not even a convincing actor.

                    Elbows up!

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                      George K
                      wrote on 6 Dec 2022, 12:30 last edited by
                      #1261

                      This is in central Russia.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        George K
                        wrote on 6 Dec 2022, 12:30 last edited by
                        #1262

                        Secret modifications: https://english.nv.ua/nation/us-has-modified-himars-to-prevent-ukraine-from-striking-russian-territory-news-50288873.html

                        “The United States secretly modified the advanced HIMARS rocket launchers it gave Ukraine so they can’t be used to fire long-range missiles into Russia – a precaution the Biden administration says is necessary to reduce the risk of a wider war with Moscow,” WSJ writes.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          Renauda
                          wrote on 6 Dec 2022, 23:20 last edited by
                          #1263

                          No problem. We’ll just modify and improve on readily available old Soviet technology to strike those airbases deep inside Russia:

                          https://www.defenseone.com/technology/2022/12/explosions-russian-air-bases-may-change-several-nations-calculations/380521/

                          Elbows up!

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                            Mik
                            wrote on 7 Dec 2022, 13:36 last edited by
                            #1264

                            https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-has-no-way-to-win-the-ukraine-war/ar-AA14Zeia?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=f56ba7dd7a7c4ca4adef8ecee61d46f7

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              Renauda
                              wrote on 7 Dec 2022, 20:34 last edited by Renauda 12 Jul 2022, 20:39
                              #1265

                              What ever you do, don’t mention the war……

                              Ahead of the meeting, the Kremlin reportedly urged members of the Human Rights Council “not to upset” Putin with thorny questions about the war in Ukraine, independent news outlet Verstka said.

                              Members of the body were also reportedly urged to avoid the “toxic” issue of Russian troop deaths in Ukraine.

                              https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/12/07/putin-denies-kremlin-plans-nuclear-first-strike-in-ukraine-a79632

                              I note though that he is beginning to turn down nuclear rhetoric. Perhaps Chairman Xi had a little phone discussion with him.

                              Elbows up!

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                                George K
                                wrote on 9 Dec 2022, 13:03 last edited by
                                #1266

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  Mik
                                  wrote on 9 Dec 2022, 13:35 last edited by
                                  #1267

                                  History shows us it is best not to fuck with the 'stans.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    Jolly
                                    wrote on 9 Dec 2022, 13:47 last edited by
                                    #1268

                                    A small drone with a couple of incendiary grenades can literally be carried anywhere.

                                    There are a lot of targets that can be taken out with just that small nudge.

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      George K
                                      wrote on 10 Dec 2022, 12:55 last edited by
                                      #1269

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        Mik
                                        wrote on 10 Dec 2022, 13:46 last edited by
                                        #1270

                                        He needs to make up his mind. One day he's backing off, the next he is saber rattling. I think once again he's trying to shake western resolve to arm Ukraine.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                          Mik
                                          wrote on 10 Dec 2022, 14:12 last edited by
                                          #1271

                                          Mass mutiny?

                                          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-troops-discuss-mass-exodus-from-frontline-in-leaked-calls-as-putin-faces-mutiny/ar-AA1555ob?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=bcd48731013341cb81540dd864398958

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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