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  • M Mik
    14 Nov 2022, 19:15

    Complete disarray.

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    Copper
    wrote on 14 Nov 2022, 22:25 last edited by
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    @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

    Complete disarray.

    Probably misarray too.

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      George K
      wrote on 14 Nov 2022, 22:59 last edited by
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      Putin The Beaten: Russia Lost Kherson And It Looks Bad In Ukraine

      The withdrawal from Kherson cost the Russian forces dearly. Over the last couple of weeks, the Russian military has been averaging 500 casualties every day, an unsustainable rate of losses for any military that wishes to conduct offensive operations on three fronts without any large-scale reinforcements.

      Overall, the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense claimed that as of Monday, Ukrainian forces have killed approximately 81,370 Russian troops (and wounded approximately thrice that number), destroyed 278 fighter, attack, bomber, and transport jets, 261 attack and transport helicopters, 2,848 tanks, 1,839 artillery pieces, 5,748 armored personnel carriers, and infantry fighting vehicles, 393 Multiple Launch Rocket Systems (MLRS), 16 boats and cutters, 4,316 vehicles and fuel tanks, 206 anti-aircraft batteries, 1,509 tactical unmanned aerial systems, 160 special equipment platforms, such as bridging vehicles, and four mobile Iskander ballistic missile systems, and 399 cruise missiles shot down by the Ukrainian air defenses.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        Renauda
        wrote on 15 Nov 2022, 15:01 last edited by
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        Russia just doesn’t get it:

        The Kremlin said it would work to stop the West seizing its international reserves to pay for reparations.

        https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63632819

        Sent from my iPhone

        Elbows up!

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          George K
          wrote on 15 Nov 2022, 20:06 last edited by George K
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          Russian missiles, land in Poland, killing two..

          https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-zelenskyy-kherson-9202c032cf3a5c22761ee71b52ff9d52?taid=6373e1a578439d000178fba6&utm_campaign=TrueAnthem&utm_medium=AP&utm_source=Twitter

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • G George K
            15 Nov 2022, 20:06

            Russian missiles, land in Poland, killing two..

            https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-zelenskyy-kherson-9202c032cf3a5c22761ee71b52ff9d52?taid=6373e1a578439d000178fba6&utm_campaign=TrueAnthem&utm_medium=AP&utm_source=Twitter

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            LuFins Dad
            wrote on 15 Nov 2022, 20:13 last edited by LuFins Dad
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            @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

            Russian missiles, land in Poland, killing two..

            https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-zelenskyy-kherson-9202c032cf3a5c22761ee71b52ff9d52?taid=6373e1a578439d000178fba6&utm_campaign=TrueAnthem&utm_medium=AP&utm_source=Twitter

            Well crap… Obviously it’s close enough to the border that it can be claimed to be error, and it probably was… But it could also be a poke just to see how NATO responds…

            The Brad

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            • L LuFins Dad
              15 Nov 2022, 20:13

              @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

              Russian missiles, land in Poland, killing two..

              https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-zelenskyy-kherson-9202c032cf3a5c22761ee71b52ff9d52?taid=6373e1a578439d000178fba6&utm_campaign=TrueAnthem&utm_medium=AP&utm_source=Twitter

              Well crap… Obviously it’s close enough to the border that it can be claimed to be error, and it probably was… But it could also be a poke just to see how NATO responds…

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              Jolly
              wrote on 15 Nov 2022, 20:46 last edited by
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              @LuFins-Dad said in The Ukraine war thread:

              @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

              Russian missiles, land in Poland, killing two..

              https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-zelenskyy-kherson-9202c032cf3a5c22761ee71b52ff9d52?taid=6373e1a578439d000178fba6&utm_campaign=TrueAnthem&utm_medium=AP&utm_source=Twitter

              Well crap… Obviously it’s close enough to the border that it can be claimed to be error, and it probably was… But it could also be a poke just to see how NATO responds…

              Major wars start over such errors.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                George K
                wrote on 16 Nov 2022, 01:02 last edited by
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                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on 16 Nov 2022, 01:27 last edited by
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                  Read the comments - doesn't seem all that reliable.

                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                    Renauda
                    wrote on 16 Nov 2022, 04:33 last edited by Renauda
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                    Regardless of where the missile was fired from, AWACS staff had one hell of wild day today. Still, if the missile was a Ukrainian air defence rocket that went astray the fault still rests on the Kremlin. That weapon would not have been fired unless the Russians had initiated their own missile attack into that area of western Ukraine.

                    Either way, Putin owns it

                    Elbows up!

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                    • R Renauda
                      16 Nov 2022, 04:33

                      Regardless of where the missile was fired from, AWACS staff had one hell of wild day today. Still, if the missile was a Ukrainian air defence rocket that went astray the fault still rests on the Kremlin. That weapon would not have been fired unless the Russians had initiated their own missile attack into that area of western Ukraine.

                      Either way, Putin owns it

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                      George K
                      wrote on 16 Nov 2022, 12:25 last edited by
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                      @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                      Either way, Putin owns it

                      Agreed. Most are saying that it was fired from Ukraine as a defense against incoming Russian missiles.

                      Darth opines:

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • G George K
                        14 Nov 2022, 15:26

                        In what kind of army does this even happen?

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                        Renauda
                        wrote on 16 Nov 2022, 15:00 last edited by
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                        @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                        In what kind of army does this even happen?

                        Consequences:

                        https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/11/16/russian-soldier-faces-15-years-in-jail-after-criticizing-poor-training-reports-a79389

                        Elbows up!

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                        • G George K
                          16 Nov 2022, 12:25

                          @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                          Either way, Putin owns it

                          Agreed. Most are saying that it was fired from Ukraine as a defense against incoming Russian missiles.

                          Darth opines:

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                          Renauda
                          wrote on 16 Nov 2022, 15:44 last edited by
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                          @George-K

                          NATO's Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg said that "Russia bears ultimate responsibility, as it continues its illegal war against Ukraine," while also stating there were no signs the missile incident was intentional.

                          "An investigation is ongoing, and we need to await its outcome, but we have no indication that this was an assault or a deliberate attack," Stoltenberg said, adding that there is no proof that "Russia is preparing offensive military actions against NATO."

                          https://www.euronews.com/2022/11/16/poland-blast-biden-says-missile-that-killed-two-may-not-have-come-from-russia

                          Elbows up!

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                            Mik
                            wrote on 17 Nov 2022, 18:24 last edited by
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                            https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-colonel-found-dead-in-his-office-under-mysterious-circumstances-here-s-what-we-know/ar-AA14eux4?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=b92f4cf697784a168939debebac993c4

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            • M Mik
                              17 Nov 2022, 18:24

                              https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-colonel-found-dead-in-his-office-under-mysterious-circumstances-here-s-what-we-know/ar-AA14eux4?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=b92f4cf697784a168939debebac993c4

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                              Doctor Phibes
                              wrote on 17 Nov 2022, 18:31 last edited by
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                              @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                              https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-colonel-found-dead-in-his-office-under-mysterious-circumstances-here-s-what-we-know/ar-AA14eux4?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=b92f4cf697784a168939debebac993c4

                              Apparently, he shot himself 5 times and then brutally accidentally cut off his own head with a pair of scissors.

                              I was only joking

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                              • D Doctor Phibes
                                17 Nov 2022, 18:31

                                @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-colonel-found-dead-in-his-office-under-mysterious-circumstances-here-s-what-we-know/ar-AA14eux4?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=b92f4cf697784a168939debebac993c4

                                Apparently, he shot himself 5 times and then brutally accidentally cut off his own head with a pair of scissors.

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                                George K
                                wrote on 17 Nov 2022, 18:52 last edited by
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                                @Doctor-Phibes said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                Apparently, he shot himself 5 times and then brutally accidentally cut off his own head with a pair of scissors.

                                With four pistols.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  Mik
                                  wrote on 17 Nov 2022, 18:53 last edited by
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                                  Overkill?

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    Mik
                                    wrote on 17 Nov 2022, 19:47 last edited by
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                                    Cri-mea river.

                                    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-s-swan-song-cri-me-a-river/ar-AA14dI33?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=073a2143db3b41d39ae0cf9d5b2d0d34

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    • M Mik
                                      17 Nov 2022, 18:24

                                      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-colonel-found-dead-in-his-office-under-mysterious-circumstances-here-s-what-we-know/ar-AA14eux4?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=b92f4cf697784a168939debebac993c4

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                                      Renauda
                                      wrote on 17 Nov 2022, 21:31 last edited by Renauda
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                                      @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-colonel-found-dead-in-his-office-under-mysterious-circumstances-here-s-what-we-know/ar-AA14eux4?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=b92f4cf697784a168939debebac993c4

                                      Vladivostok is a tough mob controlled city where bribery of officials is normal and life is cheap. Could very well be that some mobster’s brat was called up and the deceased Colonel wouldn’t play the game unless he received more money. Could be that it some of local hoods were called up and simply didn’t want go. Could be that the deceased just didn’t show enough respect for a mob boss. Could be anything or nothing. He got whacked that’s all.,

                                      Doubt they will find out why he he got whacked and by whom - that they pronounced it a suicide suggests to me that the investigators were covered and paid well in advance.

                                      Elbows up!

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on 18 Nov 2022, 16:42 last edited by
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                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          Mik
                                          wrote on 19 Nov 2022, 13:54 last edited by
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                                          Russia's economy set back 40 years.

                                          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/vladimir-putin-isn-t-just-losing-in-ukraine-he-s-set-russia-s-economy-back-40-years/ar-AA14gqKJ?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=d43a10973d4d4fe0b4c2cc5ae43c5ddb

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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