The Ukraine war thread
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Weekend attack on Sevastopol, British Forces report and video:
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@Renauda I saw those videos this weekend. However, the amount of damage inflicted by the USVs seems to be uncertain.
Have you heard/read anything?
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Somewhat related. Size of Ukraine vs US
https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftheodora.com%2Fwfbcurrent%2Fgraphics%2Fareacomparison%2FUP_area.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=0b5ed132e7e6256d4ecbba66791bd099da3a8e3e66148283deedcbd4ec642d1f&ipo=images
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Meduza io is a Russian news source published in Latvia. The link describes the mobilization clusterfuck in just one district:
https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/11/02/like-having-a-tank-operator-fly-a-plane
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How do you win a war with an army that doesn't want to fight?
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wrote on 3 Nov 2022, 15:59 last edited by
His concern is not only that any conceivable deal will appear as a loss, but a deal that truly ends the fighting will be followed by a reckoning. So long as the war continues Putin is protected to a degree by patriotic urges to support the motherland when it is in peril, and also the opportunities war provides for censorship and tight control of all dissent. Without the war the consequences of his folly will be exposed. The legacy will not be expanded territory but instead a contracted economy, continued international isolation, a diminished reputation, and a multitude of disillusioned followers, bereaved families, and traumatised veterans with nothing to remember with pride.
Why Putin prefers war to diplomacy:
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wrote on 3 Nov 2022, 16:12 last edited by Mik 11 Mar 2022, 16:13
Maybe he is ill and his endgame is to die in office rather than be removed. It's difficult to see any other possible benefit.
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How Russian Soldiers Ran a "Cleansing" Operation in Bucha
The first man arrived at 7:27 a.m. Russian soldiers covered his head and marched him up the driveway toward a nondescript office building.
Two minutes later, a pleading, gagged voice pierced the morning stillness. Then the merciless reply: “Talk! Talk, f--ing mother-f--er!”
The women and children came later, gripping hastily packed bags, their pet dogs in tow.
It was a cold, gray morning, March 4 in Bucha, Ukraine. Crows cawed. By nightfall, at least nine men would walk to their deaths at 144 Yablunska street, a building complex that Russians turned into a headquarters and the nerve center of violence that would shock the world.
In this image from March 4, 2022, surveillance video provided by the Ukrainian government, Russian troops lead nine men at gunpoint to their headquarters on Yablunska Street in Bucha, where they would be tortured and executed.
The men were picked up as part of what Russian soldiers called “zachistka” – cleansing. They hunted people on lists prepared by their intelligence services and went door to door to identify and neutralize potential threats.
Later, when all the bodies were found strewn along the streets and packed in hasty graves, it would be easy to think the carnage was random. Residents asking how this happened would be told to make their peace, because some questions just don’t have answers.
Yet there was a method to the violence.
What happened that day in Bucha was what Russian soldiers on intercepted phone conversations called “zachistka” — cleansing. The Russians hunted people on lists prepared by their intelligence services and went door to door to identify potential threats. Those who didn’t pass this filtration, including volunteer fighters and civilians suspected of assisting Ukrainian troops, were tortured and executed, surveillance video, audio intercepts and interviews show.
More here:
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/interactive/ap-russia-war-crimes-ukraine/
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wrote on 4 Nov 2022, 19:15 last edited by Renauda 11 Apr 2022, 21:50
@George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:
Blocking units and shtrafbats are right out of the Joe Stalin playbook on warfare.
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wrote on 4 Nov 2022, 19:28 last edited by
Looks more like WWII every day.
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wrote on 4 Nov 2022, 20:53 last edited by
Why surrender?
If you're going to die, take some of the bastards with you.
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