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We need to offer Putin a face saving way out

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  • MikM Offline
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    wrote on last edited by Mik
    #1

    There is much to consider here, however unpalatable the idea is.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/without-giving-in-a-united-west-needs-to-offer-putin-a-face-saving-way-out-opinion/ar-AAUK01X?ocid=msedgntp

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • MikM Mik

      There is much to consider here, however unpalatable the idea is.

      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/without-giving-in-a-united-west-needs-to-offer-putin-a-face-saving-way-out-opinion/ar-AAUK01X?ocid=msedgntp

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      @Mik said in We need to offer Putin a face saving way out:

      There is much to consider here, however unpalatable the idea is.

      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/without-giving-in-a-united-west-needs-to-offer-putin-a-face-saving-way-out-opinion/ar-AAUK01X?ocid=msedgntp

      Worked last time. I don't know, though, it might be way too late for this.

      Please love yourself.

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      • LarryL Offline
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        #3

        We don't have anyone in government with enough leadership skills to do it.

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        • LarryL Larry

          We don't have anyone in government with enough leadership skills to do it.

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          Aqua Letifer
          wrote on last edited by Aqua Letifer
          #4

          @Larry said in We need to offer Putin a face saving way out:

          We don't have anyone in government with enough leadership skills to do it.

          Hell, this takes a concerted NATO effort and I know they're not up for this, let alone our own government.

          Being proven wrong would be awesome, of course.

          Please love yourself.

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          • KlausK Offline
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            I don't want to offer him a face saving way out.

            I want to crush him, see him driven before me, and hear the lamentation of his women.

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              Sun Tsu (The Art of War) wrote, "When you surround an army, leave an outlet free. Do not press a desperate foe too hard."

              He should know.

              Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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              • KlausK Klaus

                I don't want to offer him a face saving way out.

                I want to crush him, see him driven before me, and hear the lamentation of his women.

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                @Klaus said in We need to offer Putin a face saving way out:

                I don't want to offer him a face saving way out.

                I want to crush him, see him driven before me, and hear the lamentation of his women.

                I call you and raise you one - I was the feel the lamentation of his women.

                Only non-witches get due process.

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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  @Klaus said in We need to offer Putin a face saving way out:

                  I don't want to offer him a face saving way out.

                  I want to crush him, see him driven before me, and hear the lamentation of his women.

                  I call you and raise you one - I was the feel the lamentation of his women.

                  George KG Offline
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                  George K
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                  #8

                  @jon-nyc you should know - @Klaus doesn't speak Austrian.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    #9

                    WWGKD - What Would Genghis Khan Do? Encourage Russian troops to join them for the liberation of Russia from the oligarths.

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                    • Catseye3C Catseye3

                      Sun Tsu (The Art of War) wrote, "When you surround an army, leave an outlet free. Do not press a desperate foe too hard."

                      He should know.

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                      @Catseye3 said in We need to offer Putin a face saving way out:

                      Sun Tsu (The Art of War) wrote, "When you surround an army, leave an outlet free. Do not press a desperate foe too hard."

                      He should know.

                      The problem with offering Putin an outlet is that he will regard it as effete weakness and we ourselves will interpret it as short term appeasement.

                      Either way though Ukraine pays dearly.

                      Elbows up!

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                      • kluursK kluurs

                        WWGKD - What Would Genghis Khan Do? Encourage Russian troops to join them for the liberation of Russia from the oligarths.

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                        @kluurs said in We need to offer Putin a face saving way out:

                        WWGKD - What Would Genghis Khan Do? Encourage Russian troops to join them for the liberation of Russia from the oligarths.

                        I like it. Won't work but I like it.

                        Please love yourself.

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                        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                          @kluurs said in We need to offer Putin a face saving way out:

                          WWGKD - What Would Genghis Khan Do? Encourage Russian troops to join them for the liberation of Russia from the oligarths.

                          I like it. Won't work but I like it.

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                          @Aqua-Letifer said in We need to offer Putin a face saving way out:

                          @kluurs said in We need to offer Putin a face saving way out:

                          WWGKD - What Would Genghis Khan Do? Encourage Russian troops to join them for the liberation of Russia from the oligarths.

                          I like it. Won't work but I like it.

                          Mongols?

                          That sets a good precedent!

                          Let's go back to the Incas and the Aztecs!

                          Native People, Native Lands!

                          In fact, Ukraine was part of Lithuania, so....

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • kluursK kluurs

                            WWGKD - What Would Genghis Khan Do? Encourage Russian troops to join them for the liberation of Russia from the oligarths.

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                            @kluurs

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                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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