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We need to offer Putin a face saving way out

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    Mik
    wrote on 8 Mar 2022, 05:34 last edited by Mik 3 Aug 2022, 05:34
    #1

    There is much to consider here, however unpalatable the idea is.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/without-giving-in-a-united-west-needs-to-offer-putin-a-face-saving-way-out-opinion/ar-AAUK01X?ocid=msedgntp

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • M Mik
      8 Mar 2022, 05:34

      There is much to consider here, however unpalatable the idea is.

      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/without-giving-in-a-united-west-needs-to-offer-putin-a-face-saving-way-out-opinion/ar-AAUK01X?ocid=msedgntp

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      Aqua Letifer
      wrote on 8 Mar 2022, 05:38 last edited by
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      @Mik said in We need to offer Putin a face saving way out:

      There is much to consider here, however unpalatable the idea is.

      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/without-giving-in-a-united-west-needs-to-offer-putin-a-face-saving-way-out-opinion/ar-AAUK01X?ocid=msedgntp

      Worked last time. I don't know, though, it might be way too late for this.

      Please love yourself.

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        Larry
        wrote on 8 Mar 2022, 05:40 last edited by
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        We don't have anyone in government with enough leadership skills to do it.

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        • L Larry
          8 Mar 2022, 05:40

          We don't have anyone in government with enough leadership skills to do it.

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          Aqua Letifer
          wrote on 8 Mar 2022, 05:43 last edited by Aqua Letifer 3 Aug 2022, 05:43
          #4

          @Larry said in We need to offer Putin a face saving way out:

          We don't have anyone in government with enough leadership skills to do it.

          Hell, this takes a concerted NATO effort and I know they're not up for this, let alone our own government.

          Being proven wrong would be awesome, of course.

          Please love yourself.

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            Klaus
            wrote on 8 Mar 2022, 11:30 last edited by
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            I don't want to offer him a face saving way out.

            I want to crush him, see him driven before me, and hear the lamentation of his women.

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              Catseye3
              wrote on 8 Mar 2022, 17:10 last edited by
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              Sun Tsu (The Art of War) wrote, "When you surround an army, leave an outlet free. Do not press a desperate foe too hard."

              He should know.

              Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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              • K Klaus
                8 Mar 2022, 11:30

                I don't want to offer him a face saving way out.

                I want to crush him, see him driven before me, and hear the lamentation of his women.

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                jon-nyc
                wrote on 8 Mar 2022, 17:12 last edited by
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                @Klaus said in We need to offer Putin a face saving way out:

                I don't want to offer him a face saving way out.

                I want to crush him, see him driven before me, and hear the lamentation of his women.

                I call you and raise you one - I was the feel the lamentation of his women.

                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                -Cormac McCarthy

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                • J jon-nyc
                  8 Mar 2022, 17:12

                  @Klaus said in We need to offer Putin a face saving way out:

                  I don't want to offer him a face saving way out.

                  I want to crush him, see him driven before me, and hear the lamentation of his women.

                  I call you and raise you one - I was the feel the lamentation of his women.

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                  George K
                  wrote on 8 Mar 2022, 17:23 last edited by
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                  @jon-nyc you should know - @Klaus doesn't speak Austrian.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    kluurs
                    wrote on 8 Mar 2022, 18:26 last edited by kluurs 3 Aug 2022, 18:27
                    #9

                    WWGKD - What Would Genghis Khan Do? Encourage Russian troops to join them for the liberation of Russia from the oligarths.

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                    • C Catseye3
                      8 Mar 2022, 17:10

                      Sun Tsu (The Art of War) wrote, "When you surround an army, leave an outlet free. Do not press a desperate foe too hard."

                      He should know.

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                      Renauda
                      wrote on 8 Mar 2022, 22:20 last edited by Renauda 3 Aug 2022, 22:24
                      #10

                      @Catseye3 said in We need to offer Putin a face saving way out:

                      Sun Tsu (The Art of War) wrote, "When you surround an army, leave an outlet free. Do not press a desperate foe too hard."

                      He should know.

                      The problem with offering Putin an outlet is that he will regard it as effete weakness and we ourselves will interpret it as short term appeasement.

                      Either way though Ukraine pays dearly.

                      Elbows up!

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                      • K kluurs
                        8 Mar 2022, 18:26

                        WWGKD - What Would Genghis Khan Do? Encourage Russian troops to join them for the liberation of Russia from the oligarths.

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                        Aqua Letifer
                        wrote on 9 Mar 2022, 00:03 last edited by
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                        @kluurs said in We need to offer Putin a face saving way out:

                        WWGKD - What Would Genghis Khan Do? Encourage Russian troops to join them for the liberation of Russia from the oligarths.

                        I like it. Won't work but I like it.

                        Please love yourself.

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                        • A Aqua Letifer
                          9 Mar 2022, 00:03

                          @kluurs said in We need to offer Putin a face saving way out:

                          WWGKD - What Would Genghis Khan Do? Encourage Russian troops to join them for the liberation of Russia from the oligarths.

                          I like it. Won't work but I like it.

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                          George K
                          wrote on 9 Mar 2022, 00:06 last edited by
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                          @Aqua-Letifer said in We need to offer Putin a face saving way out:

                          @kluurs said in We need to offer Putin a face saving way out:

                          WWGKD - What Would Genghis Khan Do? Encourage Russian troops to join them for the liberation of Russia from the oligarths.

                          I like it. Won't work but I like it.

                          Mongols?

                          That sets a good precedent!

                          Let's go back to the Incas and the Aztecs!

                          Native People, Native Lands!

                          In fact, Ukraine was part of Lithuania, so....

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            8 Mar 2022, 18:26

                            WWGKD - What Would Genghis Khan Do? Encourage Russian troops to join them for the liberation of Russia from the oligarths.

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                            George K
                            wrote on 19 Mar 2022, 12:07 last edited by
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                            @kluurs

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                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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