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  • 89th8 89th

    @George-K said in SOTU:

    And of course, "Defund the police" was never, ever a thing.

    It was remarkable how strong of a "We must FUND the police!" statement he made, to a rowdy applause. If there has ever been a clearer case of spineless politicians, that was it. Can you imagine ANY of them (Joe, Kamala, et al) saying that 12-18 months ago?

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    @89th said in SOTU:

    @George-K said in SOTU:

    And of course, "Defund the police" was never, ever a thing.

    It was remarkable how strong of a "We must FUND the police!" statement he made, to a rowdy applause. If there has ever been a clearer case of spineless politicians, that was it. Can you imagine ANY of them (Joe, Kamala, et al) saying that 12-18 months ago?

    Even in 2020 Joe said that the “defund” movement was misguided. Don’t remember his exact words.

    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
    -Cormac McCarthy

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    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

      @89th said in SOTU:

      @George-K said in SOTU:

      And of course, "Defund the police" was never, ever a thing.

      It was remarkable how strong of a "We must FUND the police!" statement he made, to a rowdy applause. If there has ever been a clearer case of spineless politicians, that was it. Can you imagine ANY of them (Joe, Kamala, et al) saying that 12-18 months ago?

      Even in 2020 Joe said that the “defund” movement was misguided. Don’t remember his exact words.

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      George K
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      @jon-nyc said in SOTU:

      Even in 2020 Joe said that the “defund” movement was misguided. Don’t remember his exact words.

      Either he didn't tell his caucus or they didn't listen.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • George KG George K

        @jon-nyc said in SOTU:

        Even in 2020 Joe said that the “defund” movement was misguided. Don’t remember his exact words.

        Either he didn't tell his caucus or they didn't listen.

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        jon-nyc
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        #32

        @George-K said in SOTU:

        Either he didn't tell his caucus or they didn't listen.

        They had different strategies in the primary. And it didn’t work out well for them.

        https://www.reuters.com/article/usa-election-biden-police/democrat-biden-opposes-push-to-defund-police-campaign-says-idINL1N2DL1CU?edition-redirect=uk

        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
        -Cormac McCarthy

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          kluurs
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          #33

          Speaking of defunding, back in 2016 the big push from a certain Presidential candidate was to defund Ukraine. * Republican delegates at last week’s national security committee platform meeting in Cleveland were surprised when the Trump campaign orchestrated a set of events to make sure that the GOP would not pledge to give Ukraine the weapons it has been asking for from the United States.*

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            jon-nyc
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            #34

            Well his campaign manager worked for Russian interests in Ukraine. Got pretty rich off of them, in fact.

            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
            -Cormac McCarthy

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            • kluursK kluurs

              Speaking of defunding, back in 2016 the big push from a certain Presidential candidate was to defund Ukraine. * Republican delegates at last week’s national security committee platform meeting in Cleveland were surprised when the Trump campaign orchestrated a set of events to make sure that the GOP would not pledge to give Ukraine the weapons it has been asking for from the United States.*

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              Ivorythumper
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              @kluurs said in SOTU:

              Speaking of defunding, back in 2016 the big push from a certain Presidential candidate was to defund Ukraine. * Republican delegates at last week’s national security committee platform meeting in Cleveland were surprised when the Trump campaign orchestrated a set of events to make sure that the GOP would not pledge to give Ukraine the weapons it has been asking for from the United States.*

              Defund NATO, defund Ukraine &c was all part of MAGA, as well as the need to investigate corruption.

              None of that meant "Let Russia invade a sovereign country".

              Your attempted whataboutism doesn't work here -- the Dems main message was "Defund the Police" "Open the Borders" etc without any regard for the security of the US -- which is their only obligation.

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                Well his campaign manager worked for Russian interests in Ukraine. Got pretty rich off of them, in fact.

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                @jon-nyc said in SOTU:

                Well his campaign manager worked for Russian interests in Ukraine. Got pretty rich off of them, in fact.

                And The Big Guy got rich, too.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  Jolly
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                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    jon-nyc
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                    #38

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                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                      Jolly
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                      #39

                      The worst is yet to come...

                      https://www.dailynews.com/2022/03/01/feinstein-now-must-decide-whether-to-retire/

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

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                        @jon-nyc said in SOTU:

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                        Awesome

                        I was only joking

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                          @jon-nyc said in SOTU:

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                          Perfect.

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                          • JollyJ Jolly

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                            @Jolly said in SOTU:

                            Yes. Pelosi is sooooo weird back there. She has to know she’s on a National stage yet constantly looks like she’s drunk and trying to keep a large jolly rancher in.

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                              Improviso
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                              Wall Street now believes Biden is an inconsequential lame duck president. His wishful shopping list with no solutions and his failure to pivot has doomed his presidency.

                              We are now in the 2022 election cycle. Nothing will get done between now and November. When republicans retake both houses of Congress, nothing he wants to get done will occur.

                              Personally, I think if he, as he has said, runs for a second term, someone will step up and take the nomination away from him, cementing his dismal history.

                              Mr. Biden... redecorate your Delaware basement. You'll be spending a lot of time there in the not too distant future.

                              We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
                              Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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                              • ImprovisoI Improviso

                                Wall Street now believes Biden is an inconsequential lame duck president. His wishful shopping list with no solutions and his failure to pivot has doomed his presidency.

                                We are now in the 2022 election cycle. Nothing will get done between now and November. When republicans retake both houses of Congress, nothing he wants to get done will occur.

                                Personally, I think if he, as he has said, runs for a second term, someone will step up and take the nomination away from him, cementing his dismal history.

                                Mr. Biden... redecorate your Delaware basement. You'll be spending a lot of time there in the not too distant future.

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                                Catseye3
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                                @Improviso Whatever else he is, he can't be a lame duck president.

                                Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                • ImprovisoI Improviso

                                  Wall Street now believes Biden is an inconsequential lame duck president. His wishful shopping list with no solutions and his failure to pivot has doomed his presidency.

                                  We are now in the 2022 election cycle. Nothing will get done between now and November. When republicans retake both houses of Congress, nothing he wants to get done will occur.

                                  Personally, I think if he, as he has said, runs for a second term, someone will step up and take the nomination away from him, cementing his dismal history.

                                  Mr. Biden... redecorate your Delaware basement. You'll be spending a lot of time there in the not too distant future.

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                                  @Improviso said in SOTU:

                                  nothing he wants to get done will occur.

                                  We will finally have a qualified member of the SCOTUS.

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                                  • Catseye3C Catseye3

                                    @Improviso Whatever else he is, he can't be a lame duck president.

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                                    Improviso
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                                    @Catseye3 said in SOTU:

                                    @Improviso Whatever else he is, he can't be a lame duck president.

                                    Ok... so i looked up the definition.

                                    What is a lame duck situation?
                                    A lame duck situation generally refers to a time frame between a decision and its implementation. It may also refer to: Lame duck (politics), an elected official who is approaching the end of his or her tenure, and especially an official whose successor has already been elected.

                                    You're correct. I misused "lame duck".

                                    I should have said inconsequential impotent president.

                                    We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
                                    Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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                                      jon-nyc
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #47

                                      If he announced he wasn't running again, he would be considered a lame duck.

                                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                      -Cormac McCarthy

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                                        Jolly
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #48

                                        How about just "lame"?

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                          wrote on last edited by
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                                          If it limps its way through speeches like a lame duck and hobbles its way through massive inflation like a lame duck, it's probably a lame duck.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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