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Watching Lia Thomas win

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  • CopperC Copper

    I believe there is some kind of hormone limits. I heard an announcer mention something about that the other day. Apparently Mx Thomas followed the NCAA rules.

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    @Copper

    It’s a bit more controversial than that, The NCAA originally punted and deferred to the national authorities for the various sports. When that came out it included a time restriction that would have eliminated Thomas. So the NCAA did their own rule after all.

    Only non-witches get due process.

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      #23

      LOL:

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          "Who you gonna believe, me or your lyin' eyes?"

          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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            #26

            This site compares high school national champion boys times vs womens Olympic times. Scroll down to the swimming.

            Seems like 60% greater upper body strength and a larger heart and lungs might just make a difference.

            https://boysvswomen.com/#/

            Only non-witches get due process.

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            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              This site compares high school national champion boys times vs womens Olympic times. Scroll down to the swimming.

              Seems like 60% greater upper body strength and a larger heart and lungs might just make a difference.

              https://boysvswomen.com/#/

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              @jon-nyc said in Watching Lin Thomas win:

              This site compares high school national champion boys times vs womens Olympic times. Scroll down to the swimming.

              Seems like 60% greater upper body strength and a larger heart and lungs might just make a difference.

              https://boysvswomen.com/#/

              And those women were Olympic athletes, meaning they were likely juiced...

              The Brad

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                On twitter there is a video of two members of the crowd watching the race, discussing Thomas.

                One of them says, "I'm not a veterinarian, but I know what a dog looks like."

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  Whatever. Anything boys can do, girls can do better. What you're seeing is not the effects of hormones or strength. Sure, directly those are the proximate causes. But the real cause is institutionalized misogyny, which over the generations has caused the hormone gap.

                  #TestosteroneReparationsForJustice

                  Education is extremely important.

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                    And why do we only play sports that favor men?

                    Instead of forcing women to play men's sports, we should also be forcing men to play women's sports.

                    Then we'll see how those misogyny muscles perform.

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                      This whole thing is beyond silly. All you have to do is ask why there are separate leagues for men and women. That’s it. It’s not gender, truth, individual, happiness, identity, feelings…it’s simply because of cold, clear, biological differences.

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                      • 89th8 89th

                        This whole thing is beyond silly. All you have to do is ask why there are separate leagues for men and women. That’s it. It’s not gender, truth, individual, happiness, identity, feelings…it’s simply because of cold, clear, biological differences.

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                        @89th said in Watching Lin Thomas win:

                        This whole thing is beyond silly. All you have to do is ask why there are separate leagues for men and women. That’s it. It’s not gender, truth, individual, happiness, identity, feelings…it’s simply because of cold, clear, biological differences.

                        This is the kind of talk that would get you banned from Facebook, twitter, or, perhaps the US armed forces.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • 89th8 89th

                          This whole thing is beyond silly. All you have to do is ask why there are separate leagues for men and women. That’s it. It’s not gender, truth, individual, happiness, identity, feelings…it’s simply because of cold, clear, biological differences.

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                          @89th said in Watching Lin Thomas win:

                          All you have to do is ask why there are separate leagues for men and women. That’s it. It’s not gender, truth, individual, happiness, identity, feelings…it’s simply because of cold, clear, biological differences.

                          Indeed. There are no lack of sports leaguers that separate athletes by age. Some sports, such as the martial arts, separate the athletes by weight class in addition to gender and age. So if a large enough portion of the world no longer wants to separate athletes by gender anymore, just find some other criteria to separate them so more people with different biological/physical characteristics can win — height, body weight, lung capacity, muscle mass to body fat ratio, whatever.

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                            @89th said in Watching Lin Thomas win:

                            All you have to do is ask why there are separate leagues for men and women. That’s it. It’s not gender, truth, individual, happiness, identity, feelings…it’s simply because of cold, clear, biological differences.

                            Indeed. There are no lack of sports leaguers that separate athletes by age. Some sports, such as the martial arts, separate the athletes by weight class in addition to gender and age. So if a large enough portion of the world no longer wants to separate athletes by gender anymore, just find some other criteria to separate them so more people with different biological/physical characteristics can win — height, body weight, lung capacity, muscle mass to body fat ratio, whatever.

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                            George K
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                            @Axtremus IOW, "Build your own league."

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              The important thing is that nobody should ever be sad again.

                              Except maybe Mr. Putin.

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                                This is feeling more and more like the tipping point on the whole Trans issue. Public opinion seems to be swinging strongly back against TG athletes, which will put more pressure on the NCAA and other sports regulatory groups. There is also a lot more pushback with what parents are discovering has been going on in their kid’s school curriculum.

                                I see the NCAA and HS Athletics reversing course on the issue in the not too distant future. The question is how does the Trans community respond? If they react with the typical tantrum and threats that they’ve been known for, I think you’ll see a much larger public pushback and the community will lose many of the gains they have achieved over the last 10 years.

                                The Brad

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                                • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                  This is feeling more and more like the tipping point on the whole Trans issue. Public opinion seems to be swinging strongly back against TG athletes, which will put more pressure on the NCAA and other sports regulatory groups. There is also a lot more pushback with what parents are discovering has been going on in their kid’s school curriculum.

                                  I see the NCAA and HS Athletics reversing course on the issue in the not too distant future. The question is how does the Trans community respond? If they react with the typical tantrum and threats that they’ve been known for, I think you’ll see a much larger public pushback and the community will lose many of the gains they have achieved over the last 10 years.

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                                  @LuFins-Dad

                                  👍 I've had similar thoughts, LuFin. The more annoying Liu Thomas stories emerge, the sooner the penny will drop.

                                  Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                    I agree that this collision was inevitably coming at some point. Young women are not going to take a back seat in cultural importance to anybody. They will gladly share spotlight with people of color or what have you, but don’t tread on their lawn. Trans women are attempting to test that theory. Good luck.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                    • HoraceH Horace

                                      I agree that this collision was inevitably coming at some point. Young women are not going to take a back seat in cultural importance to anybody. They will gladly share spotlight with people of color or what have you, but don’t tread on their lawn. Trans women are attempting to test that theory. Good luck.

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                                      @Horace said in Watching Lin Thomas win:

                                      I agree that this collision was inevitably coming at some point. Young women are not going to take a back seat in cultural importance to anybody. They will gladly share spotlight with people of color or what have you, but don’t tread on their lawn. Trans women are attempting to test that theory. Good luck.

                                      Now there is another facet to this… Trans rights have been able to get themselves embedded deeply in most PVG (Politicized Victims Groups). They have taken over most Pride Organizations and have sent many homosexuals running from the groups that they founded. They are also firmly embedded in BLM and pro-Trans policies are part of their demands and goals. Does public opinion sway enough that you see the gay and black communities pull back their support or even actively work against Trans Activism? I definitely think you’ll see that happen in the gay community…

                                      The Brad

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                                        We’re visiting The Wizarding World of Harry Potter in May. Karla’s already ordered a “This Witch Won’t Burn” shirt to wear in support of JK Rowling while at the park. That will be interesting…

                                        The Brad

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                                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                          @Horace said in Watching Lin Thomas win:

                                          I agree that this collision was inevitably coming at some point. Young women are not going to take a back seat in cultural importance to anybody. They will gladly share spotlight with people of color or what have you, but don’t tread on their lawn. Trans women are attempting to test that theory. Good luck.

                                          Now there is another facet to this… Trans rights have been able to get themselves embedded deeply in most PVG (Politicized Victims Groups). They have taken over most Pride Organizations and have sent many homosexuals running from the groups that they founded. They are also firmly embedded in BLM and pro-Trans policies are part of their demands and goals. Does public opinion sway enough that you see the gay and black communities pull back their support or even actively work against Trans Activism? I definitely think you’ll see that happen in the gay community…

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                                          @LuFins-Dad said in Watching Lin Thomas win:

                                          @Horace said in Watching Lin Thomas win:

                                          I agree that this collision was inevitably coming at some point. Young women are not going to take a back seat in cultural importance to anybody. They will gladly share spotlight with people of color or what have you, but don’t tread on their lawn. Trans women are attempting to test that theory. Good luck.

                                          Now there is another facet to this… Trans rights have been able to get themselves embedded deeply in most PVG (Politicized Victims Groups). They have taken over most Pride Organizations and have sent many homosexuals running from the groups that they founded. They are also firmly embedded in BLM and pro-Trans policies are part of their demands and goals. Does public opinion sway enough that you see the gay and black communities pull back their support or even actively work against Trans Activism? I definitely think you’ll see that happen in the gay community…

                                          Well the black community in general was never down with the gays anyway. It’s all been conveniently avoidable in the public discussion, but now that the occupants of the smoky room who ultimately generate the progressive identitarian agenda, our precious young white progressive women, are having to cede personal territory, sparks will fly.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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