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Watching Lia Thomas win

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    Copper
    wrote on 18 Mar 2022, 19:38 last edited by
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    I believe there is some kind of hormone limits. I heard an announcer mention something about that the other day. Apparently Mx Thomas followed the NCAA rules.

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      Horace
      wrote on 18 Mar 2022, 19:40 last edited by
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      I bet they even have rules against steroids.

      Education is extremely important.

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        18 Mar 2022, 19:38

        I believe there is some kind of hormone limits. I heard an announcer mention something about that the other day. Apparently Mx Thomas followed the NCAA rules.

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        jon-nyc
        wrote on 18 Mar 2022, 19:41 last edited by
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        @Copper

        It’s a bit more controversial than that, The NCAA originally punted and deferred to the national authorities for the various sports. When that came out it included a time restriction that would have eliminated Thomas. So the NCAA did their own rule after all.

        Only non-witches get due process.

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          George K
          wrote on 18 Mar 2022, 20:27 last edited by George K
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          LOL:

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            George K
            wrote on 19 Mar 2022, 12:03 last edited by
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            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              Catseye3
              wrote on 19 Mar 2022, 12:06 last edited by
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              "Who you gonna believe, me or your lyin' eyes?"

              Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                jon-nyc
                wrote on 19 Mar 2022, 16:30 last edited by jon-nyc
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                This site compares high school national champion boys times vs womens Olympic times. Scroll down to the swimming.

                Seems like 60% greater upper body strength and a larger heart and lungs might just make a difference.

                https://boysvswomen.com/#/

                Only non-witches get due process.

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                  19 Mar 2022, 16:30

                  This site compares high school national champion boys times vs womens Olympic times. Scroll down to the swimming.

                  Seems like 60% greater upper body strength and a larger heart and lungs might just make a difference.

                  https://boysvswomen.com/#/

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                  LuFins Dad
                  wrote on 19 Mar 2022, 16:48 last edited by
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                  @jon-nyc said in Watching Lin Thomas win:

                  This site compares high school national champion boys times vs womens Olympic times. Scroll down to the swimming.

                  Seems like 60% greater upper body strength and a larger heart and lungs might just make a difference.

                  https://boysvswomen.com/#/

                  And those women were Olympic athletes, meaning they were likely juiced...

                  The Brad

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                    George K
                    wrote on 19 Mar 2022, 21:49 last edited by
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                    On twitter there is a video of two members of the crowd watching the race, discussing Thomas.

                    One of them says, "I'm not a veterinarian, but I know what a dog looks like."

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      Horace
                      wrote on 19 Mar 2022, 21:52 last edited by
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                      Whatever. Anything boys can do, girls can do better. What you're seeing is not the effects of hormones or strength. Sure, directly those are the proximate causes. But the real cause is institutionalized misogyny, which over the generations has caused the hormone gap.

                      #TestosteroneReparationsForJustice

                      Education is extremely important.

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                        Copper
                        wrote on 19 Mar 2022, 22:00 last edited by
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                        And why do we only play sports that favor men?

                        Instead of forcing women to play men's sports, we should also be forcing men to play women's sports.

                        Then we'll see how those misogyny muscles perform.

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                          89th
                          wrote on 20 Mar 2022, 01:44 last edited by
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                          This whole thing is beyond silly. All you have to do is ask why there are separate leagues for men and women. That’s it. It’s not gender, truth, individual, happiness, identity, feelings…it’s simply because of cold, clear, biological differences.

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                            20 Mar 2022, 01:44

                            This whole thing is beyond silly. All you have to do is ask why there are separate leagues for men and women. That’s it. It’s not gender, truth, individual, happiness, identity, feelings…it’s simply because of cold, clear, biological differences.

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                            George K
                            wrote on 20 Mar 2022, 02:04 last edited by
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                            @89th said in Watching Lin Thomas win:

                            This whole thing is beyond silly. All you have to do is ask why there are separate leagues for men and women. That’s it. It’s not gender, truth, individual, happiness, identity, feelings…it’s simply because of cold, clear, biological differences.

                            This is the kind of talk that would get you banned from Facebook, twitter, or, perhaps the US armed forces.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              20 Mar 2022, 01:44

                              This whole thing is beyond silly. All you have to do is ask why there are separate leagues for men and women. That’s it. It’s not gender, truth, individual, happiness, identity, feelings…it’s simply because of cold, clear, biological differences.

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                              Axtremus
                              wrote on 20 Mar 2022, 13:27 last edited by Axtremus
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                              @89th said in Watching Lin Thomas win:

                              All you have to do is ask why there are separate leagues for men and women. That’s it. It’s not gender, truth, individual, happiness, identity, feelings…it’s simply because of cold, clear, biological differences.

                              Indeed. There are no lack of sports leaguers that separate athletes by age. Some sports, such as the martial arts, separate the athletes by weight class in addition to gender and age. So if a large enough portion of the world no longer wants to separate athletes by gender anymore, just find some other criteria to separate them so more people with different biological/physical characteristics can win — height, body weight, lung capacity, muscle mass to body fat ratio, whatever.

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                                20 Mar 2022, 13:27

                                @89th said in Watching Lin Thomas win:

                                All you have to do is ask why there are separate leagues for men and women. That’s it. It’s not gender, truth, individual, happiness, identity, feelings…it’s simply because of cold, clear, biological differences.

                                Indeed. There are no lack of sports leaguers that separate athletes by age. Some sports, such as the martial arts, separate the athletes by weight class in addition to gender and age. So if a large enough portion of the world no longer wants to separate athletes by gender anymore, just find some other criteria to separate them so more people with different biological/physical characteristics can win — height, body weight, lung capacity, muscle mass to body fat ratio, whatever.

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                                George K
                                wrote on 20 Mar 2022, 13:32 last edited by
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                                @Axtremus IOW, "Build your own league."

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  Copper
                                  wrote on 20 Mar 2022, 13:53 last edited by
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                                  The important thing is that nobody should ever be sad again.

                                  Except maybe Mr. Putin.

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                                    LuFins Dad
                                    wrote on 20 Mar 2022, 13:57 last edited by
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                                    This is feeling more and more like the tipping point on the whole Trans issue. Public opinion seems to be swinging strongly back against TG athletes, which will put more pressure on the NCAA and other sports regulatory groups. There is also a lot more pushback with what parents are discovering has been going on in their kid’s school curriculum.

                                    I see the NCAA and HS Athletics reversing course on the issue in the not too distant future. The question is how does the Trans community respond? If they react with the typical tantrum and threats that they’ve been known for, I think you’ll see a much larger public pushback and the community will lose many of the gains they have achieved over the last 10 years.

                                    The Brad

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                                      20 Mar 2022, 13:57

                                      This is feeling more and more like the tipping point on the whole Trans issue. Public opinion seems to be swinging strongly back against TG athletes, which will put more pressure on the NCAA and other sports regulatory groups. There is also a lot more pushback with what parents are discovering has been going on in their kid’s school curriculum.

                                      I see the NCAA and HS Athletics reversing course on the issue in the not too distant future. The question is how does the Trans community respond? If they react with the typical tantrum and threats that they’ve been known for, I think you’ll see a much larger public pushback and the community will lose many of the gains they have achieved over the last 10 years.

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                                      Catseye3
                                      wrote on 20 Mar 2022, 14:02 last edited by
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                                      @LuFins-Dad

                                      👍 I've had similar thoughts, LuFin. The more annoying Liu Thomas stories emerge, the sooner the penny will drop.

                                      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                        Horace
                                        wrote on 20 Mar 2022, 14:07 last edited by
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                                        I agree that this collision was inevitably coming at some point. Young women are not going to take a back seat in cultural importance to anybody. They will gladly share spotlight with people of color or what have you, but don’t tread on their lawn. Trans women are attempting to test that theory. Good luck.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                          20 Mar 2022, 14:07

                                          I agree that this collision was inevitably coming at some point. Young women are not going to take a back seat in cultural importance to anybody. They will gladly share spotlight with people of color or what have you, but don’t tread on their lawn. Trans women are attempting to test that theory. Good luck.

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                                          LuFins Dad
                                          wrote on 20 Mar 2022, 14:19 last edited by
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                                          @Horace said in Watching Lin Thomas win:

                                          I agree that this collision was inevitably coming at some point. Young women are not going to take a back seat in cultural importance to anybody. They will gladly share spotlight with people of color or what have you, but don’t tread on their lawn. Trans women are attempting to test that theory. Good luck.

                                          Now there is another facet to this… Trans rights have been able to get themselves embedded deeply in most PVG (Politicized Victims Groups). They have taken over most Pride Organizations and have sent many homosexuals running from the groups that they founded. They are also firmly embedded in BLM and pro-Trans policies are part of their demands and goals. Does public opinion sway enough that you see the gay and black communities pull back their support or even actively work against Trans Activism? I definitely think you’ll see that happen in the gay community…

                                          The Brad

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