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To Mask or Not To Mask?

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    Copper
    wrote on 1 Jul 2020, 02:50 last edited by
    #81

    https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/may/21/facebook-posts/disposable-homemade-masks-are-effective-stopping-a/

    This product is an ear loop mask, this product is not a respirator and will not provide any protections against COVID-19 (coronavirus) and other viruses or contaminants."

    ![alt text](f2d4f227-7a61-4d3f-abb9-4679300e8733-image.png https://static.politifact.com/politifact/photos/Label_Masks_screenshot.png)

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      Doctor Phibes
      wrote on 1 Jul 2020, 03:20 last edited by
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      How many times does it need repeating? The mask is to stop you infecting other people, not to stop you getting it.

      I was only joking

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        1 Jul 2020, 03:20

        How many times does it need repeating? The mask is to stop you infecting other people, not to stop you getting it.

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        taiwan_girl
        wrote on 1 Jul 2020, 13:31 last edited by
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        @Doctor-Phibes said in To Mask or Not To Mask?:

        How many times does it need repeating? The mask is to stop you infecting other people, not to stop you getting it.

        I think at least one more time. LOL

        However, I do believe that wearing a mask is in teh right direction to prevent you from getting it also. Not 100% effective in any way, but maybe it is 5% (or 10%), etc. I think of it kind of like having a screen on your windows. Will it stop every bug? No, but it will stop some. Not perfect, but in the right direction.

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          1 Jul 2020, 03:20

          How many times does it need repeating? The mask is to stop you infecting other people, not to stop you getting it.

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          Copper
          wrote on 1 Jul 2020, 21:10 last edited by
          #84

          @Doctor-Phibes said in To Mask or Not To Mask?:

          How many times does it need repeating? The mask is to stop you infecting other people, not to stop you getting it.

          https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/25/health/face-mask-guidance-covid-19/index.html

          cnn, indisputable

          But the benefits go both ways. "We know now there's scientific evidence that masks both keep you from infecting others but may also partially protect you from getting infected," said Dr. Deborah Birx, the White House coronavirus task force coordinator. "I think that's a new discovery and a new finding."

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            Doctor Phibes
            wrote on 1 Jul 2020, 21:16 last edited by
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            Deep State Debbie!

            I was only joking

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              jon-nyc
              wrote on 4 Jul 2020, 02:39 last edited by
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              You were warned.

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                Horace
                wrote on 4 Jul 2020, 03:32 last edited by
                #87

                I'll bet that Karen thinks she's too cool to be a Karen.

                Education is extremely important.

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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on 4 Jul 2020, 09:15 last edited by jon-nyc 7 Apr 2020, 11:32
                  #88

                  When you say she’s a ‘Karen’ what do you mean by that?

                  You were warned.

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                    4 Jul 2020, 09:15

                    When you say she’s a ‘Karen’ what do you mean by that?

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                    George K
                    wrote on 4 Jul 2020, 11:34 last edited by
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                    @jon-nyc said in To Mask or Not To Mask?:

                    When you say she’s a ‘Karen’ what do you mean by that?

                    https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/karen

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_(slang)

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on 4 Jul 2020, 11:37 last edited by
                      #90

                      Thanks but I'm looking for Horace's interpretation.

                      You were warned.

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                      • J jon-nyc
                        4 Jul 2020, 11:37

                        Thanks but I'm looking for Horace's interpretation.

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                        George K
                        wrote on 4 Jul 2020, 11:40 last edited by
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                        @jon-nyc said in To Mask or Not To Mask?:

                        Thanks but I'm looking for Horace's interpretation.

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                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          4 Jul 2020, 09:15

                          When you say she’s a ‘Karen’ what do you mean by that?

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                          Horace
                          wrote on 4 Jul 2020, 15:01 last edited by
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                          @jon-nyc said in To Mask or Not To Mask?:

                          When you say she’s a ‘Karen’ what do you mean by that?

                          The insult reminded me of something a cool girl in high school or college might say to sick-burn someone, and so I assumed the tweeter had been such a girl, and further that she's maintained that identity into her adulthood, and probably feels herself separate from the Karens that everybody makes fun of. And I further extrapolated that she's probably a pretty decent dead center Karen as far as the common usage goes.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                            Catseye3
                            wrote on 4 Jul 2020, 15:07 last edited by
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                            She's a mean piece, I'll give her that.

                            Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                              4 Jul 2020, 15:01

                              @jon-nyc said in To Mask or Not To Mask?:

                              When you say she’s a ‘Karen’ what do you mean by that?

                              The insult reminded me of something a cool girl in high school or college might say to sick-burn someone, and so I assumed the tweeter had been such a girl, and further that she's maintained that identity into her adulthood, and probably feels herself separate from the Karens that everybody makes fun of. And I further extrapolated that she's probably a pretty decent dead center Karen as far as the common usage goes.

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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on 4 Jul 2020, 16:14 last edited by jon-nyc 7 Apr 2020, 16:14
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                              @Horace said in To Mask or Not To Mask?:

                              The insult reminded me of something a cool girl in high school or college might say to sick-burn someone, and so I assumed the tweeter had been such a girl, and further that she's maintained that identity into her adulthood, and probably feels herself separate from the Karens that everybody makes fun of. And I further extrapolated that she's probably a pretty decent dead center Karen as far as the common usage goes.

                              I thought the standard usage was for a middle aged, reasonably well off white woman expressing entitlement. Like soccer mom or college mom, not a young girl like this.

                              It’s true there are people who use it to express animus toward white women in general or white women they disagree with, but I didn’t expect you to be among them, hence the question.

                              You were warned.

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                                4 Jul 2020, 16:14

                                @Horace said in To Mask or Not To Mask?:

                                The insult reminded me of something a cool girl in high school or college might say to sick-burn someone, and so I assumed the tweeter had been such a girl, and further that she's maintained that identity into her adulthood, and probably feels herself separate from the Karens that everybody makes fun of. And I further extrapolated that she's probably a pretty decent dead center Karen as far as the common usage goes.

                                I thought the standard usage was for a middle aged, reasonably well off white woman expressing entitlement. Like soccer mom or college mom, not a young girl like this.

                                It’s true there are people who use it to express animus toward white women in general or white women they disagree with, but I didn’t expect you to be among them, hence the question.

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                                Horace
                                wrote on 4 Jul 2020, 16:17 last edited by
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                                @jon-nyc I think it's interesting to consider the number of Karens close enough to the center of the definition to at least get some splash damage, who are part of the culture that gave rise to and encourages the hatred and racism behind the concept of a Karen.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                  Horace
                                  wrote on 4 Jul 2020, 16:18 last edited by
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                                  And if you look at the rest of the twitter feed of that young lady, you will see that she is dead center of the progressive culture that invented the concept of Karens.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                    4 Jul 2020, 16:18

                                    And if you look at the rest of the twitter feed of that young lady, you will see that she is dead center of the progressive culture that invented the concept of Karens.

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                                    Aqua Letifer
                                    wrote on 4 Jul 2020, 16:41 last edited by
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                                    @Horace said in To Mask or Not To Mask?:

                                    And if you look at the rest of the twitter feed of that young lady, you will see that she is dead center of the progressive culture that invented the concept of Karens.

                                    I'm in support of Karen-as-insult. It's not like "soccer mom," which implies having kids and accommodating their schedules is lame. The Karen thing criticizes behavior that should be criticized, referencing a demographic that usually engages in such.

                                    Please love yourself.

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                                      Doctor Phibes
                                      wrote on 4 Jul 2020, 17:24 last edited by
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                                      I don't like the Karen insult. It seems to get regularly hijacked to basically have a go at women who stand up for themselves.

                                      I was only joking

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                                        4 Jul 2020, 16:41

                                        @Horace said in To Mask or Not To Mask?:

                                        And if you look at the rest of the twitter feed of that young lady, you will see that she is dead center of the progressive culture that invented the concept of Karens.

                                        I'm in support of Karen-as-insult. It's not like "soccer mom," which implies having kids and accommodating their schedules is lame. The Karen thing criticizes behavior that should be criticized, referencing a demographic that usually engages in such.

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                                        Horace
                                        wrote on 4 Jul 2020, 17:29 last edited by
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                                        @Aqua-Letifer said in To Mask or Not To Mask?:

                                        @Horace said in To Mask or Not To Mask?:

                                        And if you look at the rest of the twitter feed of that young lady, you will see that she is dead center of the progressive culture that invented the concept of Karens.

                                        I'm in support of Karen-as-insult. It's not like "soccer mom," which implies having kids and accommodating their schedules is lame. The Karen thing criticizes behavior that should be criticized, referencing a demographic that usually engages in such.

                                        Nothing correlates with wokeness more than privilege. So when woke people talk of Karens, they are talking of another slightly different version of themselves. What is wokeness if not a cultural cop named Karen?

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                          jon-nyc
                                          wrote on 4 Jul 2020, 17:35 last edited by
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                                          That's fine, you're just using it in the expansive 'white girl I don't like' sense, which in your case means white woke progressives.

                                          You were warned.

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