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To Mask or Not To Mask?

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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    jon-nyc
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    #80

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    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      #81

      https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/may/21/facebook-posts/disposable-homemade-masks-are-effective-stopping-a/

      This product is an ear loop mask, this product is not a respirator and will not provide any protections against COVID-19 (coronavirus) and other viruses or contaminants."

      ![alt text](f2d4f227-7a61-4d3f-abb9-4679300e8733-image.png https://static.politifact.com/politifact/photos/Label_Masks_screenshot.png)

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      • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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        Doctor Phibes
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        #82

        How many times does it need repeating? The mask is to stop you infecting other people, not to stop you getting it.

        I was only joking

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        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

          How many times does it need repeating? The mask is to stop you infecting other people, not to stop you getting it.

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          taiwan_girl
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          #83

          @Doctor-Phibes said in To Mask or Not To Mask?:

          How many times does it need repeating? The mask is to stop you infecting other people, not to stop you getting it.

          I think at least one more time. LOL

          However, I do believe that wearing a mask is in teh right direction to prevent you from getting it also. Not 100% effective in any way, but maybe it is 5% (or 10%), etc. I think of it kind of like having a screen on your windows. Will it stop every bug? No, but it will stop some. Not perfect, but in the right direction.

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          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

            How many times does it need repeating? The mask is to stop you infecting other people, not to stop you getting it.

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            #84

            @Doctor-Phibes said in To Mask or Not To Mask?:

            How many times does it need repeating? The mask is to stop you infecting other people, not to stop you getting it.

            https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/25/health/face-mask-guidance-covid-19/index.html

            cnn, indisputable

            But the benefits go both ways. "We know now there's scientific evidence that masks both keep you from infecting others but may also partially protect you from getting infected," said Dr. Deborah Birx, the White House coronavirus task force coordinator. "I think that's a new discovery and a new finding."

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            • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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              #85

              Deep State Debbie!

              I was only joking

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              • jon-nycJ Offline
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                jon-nyc
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                #86

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                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                • HoraceH Offline
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                  I'll bet that Karen thinks she's too cool to be a Karen.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                    jon-nyc
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                    #88

                    When you say she’s a ‘Karen’ what do you mean by that?

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      When you say she’s a ‘Karen’ what do you mean by that?

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                      @jon-nyc said in To Mask or Not To Mask?:

                      When you say she’s a ‘Karen’ what do you mean by that?

                      https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/karen

                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_(slang)

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        #90

                        Thanks but I'm looking for Horace's interpretation.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          Thanks but I'm looking for Horace's interpretation.

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                          @jon-nyc said in To Mask or Not To Mask?:

                          Thanks but I'm looking for Horace's interpretation.

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                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                            When you say she’s a ‘Karen’ what do you mean by that?

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                            @jon-nyc said in To Mask or Not To Mask?:

                            When you say she’s a ‘Karen’ what do you mean by that?

                            The insult reminded me of something a cool girl in high school or college might say to sick-burn someone, and so I assumed the tweeter had been such a girl, and further that she's maintained that identity into her adulthood, and probably feels herself separate from the Karens that everybody makes fun of. And I further extrapolated that she's probably a pretty decent dead center Karen as far as the common usage goes.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              She's a mean piece, I'll give her that.

                              Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                              • HoraceH Horace

                                @jon-nyc said in To Mask or Not To Mask?:

                                When you say she’s a ‘Karen’ what do you mean by that?

                                The insult reminded me of something a cool girl in high school or college might say to sick-burn someone, and so I assumed the tweeter had been such a girl, and further that she's maintained that identity into her adulthood, and probably feels herself separate from the Karens that everybody makes fun of. And I further extrapolated that she's probably a pretty decent dead center Karen as far as the common usage goes.

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                                @Horace said in To Mask or Not To Mask?:

                                The insult reminded me of something a cool girl in high school or college might say to sick-burn someone, and so I assumed the tweeter had been such a girl, and further that she's maintained that identity into her adulthood, and probably feels herself separate from the Karens that everybody makes fun of. And I further extrapolated that she's probably a pretty decent dead center Karen as far as the common usage goes.

                                I thought the standard usage was for a middle aged, reasonably well off white woman expressing entitlement. Like soccer mom or college mom, not a young girl like this.

                                It’s true there are people who use it to express animus toward white women in general or white women they disagree with, but I didn’t expect you to be among them, hence the question.

                                Only non-witches get due process.

                                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                  @Horace said in To Mask or Not To Mask?:

                                  The insult reminded me of something a cool girl in high school or college might say to sick-burn someone, and so I assumed the tweeter had been such a girl, and further that she's maintained that identity into her adulthood, and probably feels herself separate from the Karens that everybody makes fun of. And I further extrapolated that she's probably a pretty decent dead center Karen as far as the common usage goes.

                                  I thought the standard usage was for a middle aged, reasonably well off white woman expressing entitlement. Like soccer mom or college mom, not a young girl like this.

                                  It’s true there are people who use it to express animus toward white women in general or white women they disagree with, but I didn’t expect you to be among them, hence the question.

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                                  @jon-nyc I think it's interesting to consider the number of Karens close enough to the center of the definition to at least get some splash damage, who are part of the culture that gave rise to and encourages the hatred and racism behind the concept of a Karen.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                    And if you look at the rest of the twitter feed of that young lady, you will see that she is dead center of the progressive culture that invented the concept of Karens.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                    • HoraceH Horace

                                      And if you look at the rest of the twitter feed of that young lady, you will see that she is dead center of the progressive culture that invented the concept of Karens.

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                                      @Horace said in To Mask or Not To Mask?:

                                      And if you look at the rest of the twitter feed of that young lady, you will see that she is dead center of the progressive culture that invented the concept of Karens.

                                      I'm in support of Karen-as-insult. It's not like "soccer mom," which implies having kids and accommodating their schedules is lame. The Karen thing criticizes behavior that should be criticized, referencing a demographic that usually engages in such.

                                      Please love yourself.

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                                        I don't like the Karen insult. It seems to get regularly hijacked to basically have a go at women who stand up for themselves.

                                        I was only joking

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                                        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                          @Horace said in To Mask or Not To Mask?:

                                          And if you look at the rest of the twitter feed of that young lady, you will see that she is dead center of the progressive culture that invented the concept of Karens.

                                          I'm in support of Karen-as-insult. It's not like "soccer mom," which implies having kids and accommodating their schedules is lame. The Karen thing criticizes behavior that should be criticized, referencing a demographic that usually engages in such.

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                                          @Aqua-Letifer said in To Mask or Not To Mask?:

                                          @Horace said in To Mask or Not To Mask?:

                                          And if you look at the rest of the twitter feed of that young lady, you will see that she is dead center of the progressive culture that invented the concept of Karens.

                                          I'm in support of Karen-as-insult. It's not like "soccer mom," which implies having kids and accommodating their schedules is lame. The Karen thing criticizes behavior that should be criticized, referencing a demographic that usually engages in such.

                                          Nothing correlates with wokeness more than privilege. So when woke people talk of Karens, they are talking of another slightly different version of themselves. What is wokeness if not a cultural cop named Karen?

                                          Education is extremely important.

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