Not a riot
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I lifted an excerpt of a post from another board I frequent...
*WARNING: The following is not in the least bit Politically Correct - YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.
Having been born in Minneapolis in the mid 50's and lived there the first 31 years of my life. I can tell you the population has changed greatly.
Minneapolis was heavily white and working middle class. Heritage then was mostly Scandinavian, German and Polish. It was a hotbed of Union activity in the 50's and 60's which means democratic - that combined with politicians like Hubert Humphrey and Walter Mondale changed it into a welfare Mecca and the area started getting the poor people from Milwaukee and Chicago in the late 60's early 70's
It had a large population of Catholics and Lutheran's, 2 religions that sponsor a bunch of immigrants every year, first with the Hmong (Vietnamese Hill people) in St Paul and then with the Somali's in Mpls. This turned the area even more democratic until it was the only state Reagan lost in '84. The middle class mostly moved - to the outer ring suburbs or out of state completely.
You know have much more diversity but you also have much more crime -- MUCH more. *
wrote on 29 May 2020, 13:59 last edited by@Jolly said in Not a riot:
The middle class mostly moved - to the outer ring suburbs or out of state completely.
This is where we were already planning on looking to buy next Spring. Likely somewhere along the western edge of their "beltway".
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That's not an excuse, but an observation. These things happen in poor, inner city, high crime areas.
wrote on 29 May 2020, 15:14 last edited by@Jolly said in Not a riot:
That's not an excuse, but an observation. These things happen in poor, inner city, high crime areas.
Where relations between police and residents suck at the best of times.
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@Jolly said in Not a riot:
The middle class mostly moved - to the outer ring suburbs or out of state completely.
This is where we were already planning on looking to buy next Spring. Likely somewhere along the western edge of their "beltway".
wrote on 29 May 2020, 15:16 last edited by@89th said in Not a riot:
@Jolly said in Not a riot:
The middle class mostly moved - to the outer ring suburbs or out of state completely.
This is where we were already planning on looking to buy next Spring. Likely somewhere along the western edge of their "beltway".
You might be able to get a "fire sale price" if you act quickly.
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wrote on 29 May 2020, 16:00 last edited by
Mr. Biden gets crucified for mentioning racial stereotypes.
But the reporting on the riots makes it sound like this is what people with dark skin must do to get justice, they do it all the time, it is how to deal with this sort of thing.
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wrote on 29 May 2020, 17:19 last edited by
Minneapolis Seethes Over George Floyd's Death As Trump Calls Protesters 'THUGS'...
President Trump, who called Floyd's death "very sad and tragic" earlier this week, said early Friday that he had told Minnesota's governor that "the Military is with him all the way."
He also described the source of the unrest as "THUGS" — a word widely criticized for bearing racial overtones.
And this is CNN:
condemned the "criminals and thugs who tore up" the city
And the White House doubled down on the term afterward
"Whether it's arson or, you know, the looting of a liquor store ... those were thuggish acts,"
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Minneapolis Seethes Over George Floyd's Death As Trump Calls Protesters 'THUGS'...
President Trump, who called Floyd's death "very sad and tragic" earlier this week, said early Friday that he had told Minnesota's governor that "the Military is with him all the way."
He also described the source of the unrest as "THUGS" — a word widely criticized for bearing racial overtones.
And this is CNN:
condemned the "criminals and thugs who tore up" the city
And the White House doubled down on the term afterward
"Whether it's arson or, you know, the looting of a liquor store ... those were thuggish acts,"
wrote on 29 May 2020, 17:42 last edited by@George-K When did the term thugs become racist? If anything, I visualize big. hulking white guys, probably Italian. Nothing racist...
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wrote on 29 May 2020, 17:46 last edited by
Trump is absolutely right. Yes there is anger. Yes, some of it is righteous. Yes, a lot of these folks take advantage of that for material gain. It's always been that way. Those are the ones he's talking about. Not the legitimate peaceful protesters.
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@George-K When did the term thugs become racist? If anything, I visualize big. hulking white guys, probably Italian. Nothing racist...
wrote on 29 May 2020, 17:46 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in Not a riot:
@George-K When did the term thugs become racist? If anything, I visualize big. hulking white guys, probably Italian. Nothing racist...
No, those are wise guys.
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wrote on 29 May 2020, 17:51 last edited by
Google’s take.
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wrote on 29 May 2020, 17:52 last edited by
The word became appropriated at some point. "Thug life" and all that.
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wrote on 29 May 2020, 17:52 last edited by
Dem University of Victoria white girls some tough bitches.
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wrote on 29 May 2020, 17:53 last edited by
My recollection is that thugs originated in India, sort of an outlaw gang or groups of gangs.
It gets a mention in the Indiana Jones movie.
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wrote on 29 May 2020, 17:57 last edited by
Seriously? It was originally a racist term, but had nothing to do with African Americans but Indians. Thugs were members of the Indian Murder/Robbery Cult in India. Over time, though, it came to mean any brutish and hulking criminal.
At some point, the rap culture started adopting the word in a slightly different context.
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wrote on 29 May 2020, 17:58 last edited by
I grew up on the streets. I know thug life.
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wrote on 29 May 2020, 18:17 last edited by
The word apparently has Sanskrit origins. Still a commonly used word in Hindi for swindler.
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wrote on 29 May 2020, 18:24 last edited by
Hooligan is derived from Hoolihan, a well known Irish surname. Saynomore.
Vandals - well, I think we all know where they came from. Bloody Jerry's at it again.
The best they could come up with to insult my national group was something involving citrus fruit, presumably because we'd been Yanking their chain and they just bally well got tired of it, dontyaknow!
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wrote on 29 May 2020, 18:57 last edited by Horace
The notion that this only happens to people of a certain color and when the cop is of a certain color is one of the great non-sequiturs of our society. And none of our most important pop culture influencers are interested in thinking too critically about that aspect of it. But the fact is that it is perfectly plausible that this would have happened had Mr Floyd had white skin. And it is beyond plausible, certain even, that a video of such an incident would not have been seen or discussed by anybody.
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wrote on 29 May 2020, 19:00 last edited by
Meanwhile, all of our most virtuous messaging of the pop culture elite like Mr Obama, continues to cement the notion in everybody's heads that we have a permanent victim culture in America. And none of our most virtuous folk are particularly interested in doing any hard thinking about what exactly that idea does to people who are born into it.
