Not a riot
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@Jolly said in Not a riot:
@Larry said in Not a riot:
I live in the South. I keep hearing how racist the South is, so if there's a problem with racism then surely it would be seen here.
The only racism I ever see is when I turn on the TV and some news person tells me America is a racist country. After I turn off the TV the racism is gone again.
Oh, there's racism. In the white community. In the black community. Shucks, even the Vietnamese community here, discouraged their girls from dating black guys. Or white guys. Or even the Mexican guys.
But it's just everyday crap, not even worth noticing, for the most part.
I am not sure of the exact definition of racism, but I see that the US has a lot of segregation, and is probably still as segregated as many years ago.
As I said before, some (alot) of this is due to a persons own choice, but I am not sure it is a good thing. As long as people have segregation, it is very difficult to understand the other side, and that leads to problems such as are having in the US cities right now.
(I will add that this is not necessary only a US thing. I have seen it around teh world.)
@taiwan_girl said in Not a riot:
@Jolly said in Not a riot:
@Larry said in Not a riot:
I live in the South. I keep hearing how racist the South is, so if there's a problem with racism then surely it would be seen here.
The only racism I ever see is when I turn on the TV and some news person tells me America is a racist country. After I turn off the TV the racism is gone again.
Oh, there's racism. In the white community. In the black community. Shucks, even the Vietnamese community here, discouraged their girls from dating black guys. Or white guys. Or even the Mexican guys.
But it's just everyday crap, not even worth noticing, for the most part.
I am not sure of the exact definition of racism, but I see that the US has a lot of segregation, and is probably still as segregated as many years ago.
As I said before, some (alot) of this is due to a persons own choice, but I am not sure it is a good thing. As long as people have segregation, it is very difficult to understand the other side, and that leads to problems such as are having in the US cities right now.
(I will add that this is not necessary only a US thing. I have seen it around teh world.)
The other side?
I question your point of view.
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Lara Logan posted this on Twitter: Note the contradictions............(sorry if you all have seen this before)
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:
Not only did that police officer just lose their job I hope he/she sits in jail with a rioter/looter. No pension or retirement either.
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Amazingly, most of the protesters and the police in cities across the country are trying to keep things peaceful. But there seems to be a lot of talk about violent protesters here on TNCR and a blind eye turned toward violent cops. Only reason I post shit like this. It's definitely not the norm.
Please love yourself.
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Amazingly, most of the protesters and the police in cities across the country are trying to keep things peaceful. But there seems to be a lot of talk about violent protesters here on TNCR and a blind eye turned toward violent cops. Only reason I post shit like this. It's definitely not the norm.
@Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:
Amazingly, most of the protesters and the police in cities across the country are trying to keep things peaceful. But there seems to be a lot of talk about violent protesters here on TNCR and a blind eye turned toward violent cops. Only reason I post shit like this. It's definitely not the norm.
A violent cop just stokes the unrest. Their actions should be viewed in the same light as a rioter. It amazes me that some cops have not got the memo yet. Rather than burn down cities however, they need to be stripped of their livelihoods.
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Amazingly, most of the protesters and the police in cities across the country are trying to keep things peaceful. But there seems to be a lot of talk about violent protesters here on TNCR and a blind eye turned toward violent cops. Only reason I post shit like this. It's definitely not the norm.
@Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:
Amazingly, most of the protesters and the police in cities across the country are trying to keep things peaceful. But there seems to be a lot of talk about violent protesters here on TNCR and a blind eye turned toward violent cops. Only reason I post shit like this. It's definitely not the norm.
How many people have been killed by police while demonstrating in the last few days?
How many people have been killed by demonstrators in the last few days?
I'll wait, patiently, for your response.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:
Amazingly, most of the protesters and the police in cities across the country are trying to keep things peaceful. But there seems to be a lot of talk about violent protesters here on TNCR and a blind eye turned toward violent cops. Only reason I post shit like this. It's definitely not the norm.
How many people have been killed by police while demonstrating in the last few days?
How many people have been killed by demonstrators in the last few days?
I'll wait, patiently, for your response.
@George-K said in Not a riot:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:
Amazingly, most of the protesters and the police in cities across the country are trying to keep things peaceful. But there seems to be a lot of talk about violent protesters here on TNCR and a blind eye turned toward violent cops. Only reason I post shit like this. It's definitely not the norm.
How many people have been killed by police while demonstrating in the last few days?
How many people have been killed by demonstrators in the last few days?
I'll wait, patiently, for your response.
You gonna normalize that as a percentage of both crowd sizes? Because you know the protester/cop participation ratio is not 1:1, right? Why don't you let me know what you think it is if we're playing Quiz Show.
Please love yourself.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:
Amazingly, most of the protesters and the police in cities across the country are trying to keep things peaceful. But there seems to be a lot of talk about violent protesters here on TNCR and a blind eye turned toward violent cops. Only reason I post shit like this. It's definitely not the norm.
A violent cop just stokes the unrest. Their actions should be viewed in the same light as a rioter. It amazes me that some cops have not got the memo yet. Rather than burn down cities however, they need to be stripped of their livelihoods.
@Loki said in Not a riot:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:
Amazingly, most of the protesters and the police in cities across the country are trying to keep things peaceful. But there seems to be a lot of talk about violent protesters here on TNCR and a blind eye turned toward violent cops. Only reason I post shit like this. It's definitely not the norm.
A violent cop just stokes the unrest. Their actions should be viewed in the same light as a rioter. It amazes me that some cops have not got the memo yet. Rather than burn down cities however, they need to be stripped of their livelihoods.
Both sides are getting tired and angrier. It's bad news for everyone involved.
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@George-K said in Not a riot:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:
Amazingly, most of the protesters and the police in cities across the country are trying to keep things peaceful. But there seems to be a lot of talk about violent protesters here on TNCR and a blind eye turned toward violent cops. Only reason I post shit like this. It's definitely not the norm.
How many people have been killed by police while demonstrating in the last few days?
How many people have been killed by demonstrators in the last few days?
I'll wait, patiently, for your response.
You gonna normalize that as a percentage of both crowd sizes? Because you know the protester/cop participation ratio is not 1:1, right? Why don't you let me know what you think it is if we're playing Quiz Show.
@Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:
@George-K said in Not a riot:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:
Amazingly, most of the protesters and the police in cities across the country are trying to keep things peaceful. But there seems to be a lot of talk about violent protesters here on TNCR and a blind eye turned toward violent cops. Only reason I post shit like this. It's definitely not the norm.
How many people have been killed by police while demonstrating in the last few days?
How many people have been killed by demonstrators in the last few days?
I'll wait, patiently, for your response.
You gonna normalize that as a percentage of both crowd sizes? Because you know the protester/cop participation ratio is not 1:1, right? Why don't you let me know what you think it is if we're playing Quiz Show.
What matters more? Crowd size? Or number of lethal weapons available?
Seems to me, the cops might have quite a few more weapons...
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It would be interesting to know the practical difficulty of the task we've set before us as a society - to maintain an effective police force, that never abuses their power. I'm not really clear, personally, about how difficult that problem is. I'm pretty sure it's pretty hard though, and I think we may be too down on ourselves regarding our current efforts towards a solution.
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They are, actually. And they've a great program, which is a big part of why they seldom make the news. We've far better than average police officers here.
You're too old, though. And you're unqualified.
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They are, actually. And they've a great program, which is a big part of why they seldom make the news. We've far better than average police officers here.
You're too old, though. And you're unqualified.
@Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:
They are, actually. And they've a great program, which is a big part of why they seldom make the news. We've far better than average police officers here.
You're too old, though. And you're unqualified.
I am too old. But I don't need a job. Besides, I've already had bullets coming through the windows of my workplace. I've been attacked with a knife in the hallway.
Time for you to have a little excitement. Would be great background for a book...
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:
They are, actually. And they've a great program, which is a big part of why they seldom make the news. We've far better than average police officers here.
You're too old, though. And you're unqualified.
I am too old. But I don't need a job. Besides, I've already had bullets coming through the windows of my workplace. I've been attacked with a knife in the hallway.
Time for you to have a little excitement. Would be great background for a book...
@Jolly said in Not a riot:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:
They are, actually. And they've a great program, which is a big part of why they seldom make the news. We've far better than average police officers here.
You're too old, though. And you're unqualified.
I am too old. But I don't need a job. Besides, I've already had bullets coming through the windows of my workplace. I've been attacked with a knife in the hallway.
Time for you to have a little excitement. Would be great background for a book...
I'm good. Burnout's a big problem in the profession and it's not my thing anyway.
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Amazingly, most of the protesters and the police in cities across the country are trying to keep things peaceful. But there seems to be a lot of talk about violent protesters here on TNCR and a blind eye turned toward violent cops. Only reason I post shit like this. It's definitely not the norm.
@Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:
there seems to be a lot of talk about violent protesters here on TNCR and a blind eye turned toward violent cops.
Wrong
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Amazingly, most of the protesters and the police in cities across the country are trying to keep things peaceful. But there seems to be a lot of talk about violent protesters here on TNCR and a blind eye turned toward violent cops. Only reason I post shit like this. It's definitely not the norm.
@Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:
Amazingly, most of the protesters and the police in cities across the country are trying to keep things peaceful. But there seems to be a lot of talk about violent protesters here on TNCR and a blind eye turned toward violent cops. Only reason I post shit like this. It's definitely not the norm.
First you've got to stop attributing things said about anarchist types to protesters. Second, you've got to stop thinking of all the protesters as nice, innocent people. Many are. But many aren't. Third, I've not seen anyone attempt to gloss over the fact that there have been a few bad cops. There's going to be a few good among the bad, and a few bad among the good.
That said, you try risking your life by putting on a police uniform and walking out into a mob of violent things armed with bricks and firebombs, getting spit on, slapped, things thrown at you, with a city mayor tying your hands behind your back, and let's see how long it is before YOU react in the wrong way.
The innocent and nice people who simply want to march in a protest need to go home and get out of the way. There is no protest any longer. People are even beginning to forget the guy's name. Their protest has been ruined. Whatever point they wanted to make has been made as good as it can be made. So they need to go home, get out of the way, so the police can do their job.
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By a Vietnam Vet on another board....
I've told this story before, but it never gets old.
Riding on a big green ARMY bus, on the way from the separation station in Oakland where we'd just been discharged from the army, to the San Francisco airport. Up ahead on the freeway a bunch of anti-war protestors were in wait, and when they saw the bus jumped out onto the freeway to stop traffic. When the driver, a civilian, got the bus stopped he opened the two doors and yelled "Go get 'em boys!!" Unfortunately we never caught even one of them, they scrambled up the embankment and over the chain link fence before we could get to them, and we were running hard.
