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  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

    Amazingly, most of the protesters and the police in cities across the country are trying to keep things peaceful. But there seems to be a lot of talk about violent protesters here on TNCR and a blind eye turned toward violent cops. Only reason I post shit like this. It's definitely not the norm.

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    Loki
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    #124

    @Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:

    Amazingly, most of the protesters and the police in cities across the country are trying to keep things peaceful. But there seems to be a lot of talk about violent protesters here on TNCR and a blind eye turned toward violent cops. Only reason I post shit like this. It's definitely not the norm.

    A violent cop just stokes the unrest. Their actions should be viewed in the same light as a rioter. It amazes me that some cops have not got the memo yet. Rather than burn down cities however, they need to be stripped of their livelihoods.

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    • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

      Amazingly, most of the protesters and the police in cities across the country are trying to keep things peaceful. But there seems to be a lot of talk about violent protesters here on TNCR and a blind eye turned toward violent cops. Only reason I post shit like this. It's definitely not the norm.

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      George K
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      #125

      @Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:

      Amazingly, most of the protesters and the police in cities across the country are trying to keep things peaceful. But there seems to be a lot of talk about violent protesters here on TNCR and a blind eye turned toward violent cops. Only reason I post shit like this. It's definitely not the norm.

      How many people have been killed by police while demonstrating in the last few days?

      How many people have been killed by demonstrators in the last few days?

      I'll wait, patiently, for your response.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • George KG George K

        @Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:

        Amazingly, most of the protesters and the police in cities across the country are trying to keep things peaceful. But there seems to be a lot of talk about violent protesters here on TNCR and a blind eye turned toward violent cops. Only reason I post shit like this. It's definitely not the norm.

        How many people have been killed by police while demonstrating in the last few days?

        How many people have been killed by demonstrators in the last few days?

        I'll wait, patiently, for your response.

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        Aqua Letifer
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        #126

        @George-K said in Not a riot:

        @Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:

        Amazingly, most of the protesters and the police in cities across the country are trying to keep things peaceful. But there seems to be a lot of talk about violent protesters here on TNCR and a blind eye turned toward violent cops. Only reason I post shit like this. It's definitely not the norm.

        How many people have been killed by police while demonstrating in the last few days?

        How many people have been killed by demonstrators in the last few days?

        I'll wait, patiently, for your response.

        You gonna normalize that as a percentage of both crowd sizes? Because you know the protester/cop participation ratio is not 1:1, right? Why don't you let me know what you think it is if we're playing Quiz Show.

        Please love yourself.

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          @Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:

          Amazingly, most of the protesters and the police in cities across the country are trying to keep things peaceful. But there seems to be a lot of talk about violent protesters here on TNCR and a blind eye turned toward violent cops. Only reason I post shit like this. It's definitely not the norm.

          A violent cop just stokes the unrest. Their actions should be viewed in the same light as a rioter. It amazes me that some cops have not got the memo yet. Rather than burn down cities however, they need to be stripped of their livelihoods.

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          Aqua Letifer
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          #127

          @Loki said in Not a riot:

          @Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:

          Amazingly, most of the protesters and the police in cities across the country are trying to keep things peaceful. But there seems to be a lot of talk about violent protesters here on TNCR and a blind eye turned toward violent cops. Only reason I post shit like this. It's definitely not the norm.

          A violent cop just stokes the unrest. Their actions should be viewed in the same light as a rioter. It amazes me that some cops have not got the memo yet. Rather than burn down cities however, they need to be stripped of their livelihoods.

          Both sides are getting tired and angrier. It's bad news for everyone involved.

          Please love yourself.

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          • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

            @George-K said in Not a riot:

            @Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:

            Amazingly, most of the protesters and the police in cities across the country are trying to keep things peaceful. But there seems to be a lot of talk about violent protesters here on TNCR and a blind eye turned toward violent cops. Only reason I post shit like this. It's definitely not the norm.

            How many people have been killed by police while demonstrating in the last few days?

            How many people have been killed by demonstrators in the last few days?

            I'll wait, patiently, for your response.

            You gonna normalize that as a percentage of both crowd sizes? Because you know the protester/cop participation ratio is not 1:1, right? Why don't you let me know what you think it is if we're playing Quiz Show.

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            Jolly
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            #128

            @Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:

            @George-K said in Not a riot:

            @Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:

            Amazingly, most of the protesters and the police in cities across the country are trying to keep things peaceful. But there seems to be a lot of talk about violent protesters here on TNCR and a blind eye turned toward violent cops. Only reason I post shit like this. It's definitely not the norm.

            How many people have been killed by police while demonstrating in the last few days?

            How many people have been killed by demonstrators in the last few days?

            I'll wait, patiently, for your response.

            You gonna normalize that as a percentage of both crowd sizes? Because you know the protester/cop participation ratio is not 1:1, right? Why don't you let me know what you think it is if we're playing Quiz Show.

            What matters more? Crowd size? Or number of lethal weapons available?

            Seems to me, the cops might have quite a few more weapons...

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              Horace
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              #129

              It would be interesting to know the practical difficulty of the task we've set before us as a society - to maintain an effective police force, that never abuses their power. I'm not really clear, personally, about how difficult that problem is. I'm pretty sure it's pretty hard though, and I think we may be too down on ourselves regarding our current efforts towards a solution.

              Education is extremely important.

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                Jolly
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                #130

                Yo, Aqua...I bet the cops are hiring in your area!😄

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  Aqua Letifer
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                  #131

                  They are, actually. And they've a great program, which is a big part of why they seldom make the news. We've far better than average police officers here.

                  You're too old, though. And you're unqualified.

                  Please love yourself.

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                  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                    They are, actually. And they've a great program, which is a big part of why they seldom make the news. We've far better than average police officers here.

                    You're too old, though. And you're unqualified.

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                    Jolly
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #132

                    @Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:

                    They are, actually. And they've a great program, which is a big part of why they seldom make the news. We've far better than average police officers here.

                    You're too old, though. And you're unqualified.

                    I am too old. But I don't need a job. Besides, I've already had bullets coming through the windows of my workplace. I've been attacked with a knife in the hallway.

                    Time for you to have a little excitement. Would be great background for a book...

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      Rainman
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                      #133

                      Portland police have a very hard time hiring.
                      Can't imagine why.
                      They keep lowering their requirements, from what I've heard.

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                      • JollyJ Jolly

                        @Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:

                        They are, actually. And they've a great program, which is a big part of why they seldom make the news. We've far better than average police officers here.

                        You're too old, though. And you're unqualified.

                        I am too old. But I don't need a job. Besides, I've already had bullets coming through the windows of my workplace. I've been attacked with a knife in the hallway.

                        Time for you to have a little excitement. Would be great background for a book...

                        Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                        Aqua Letifer
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #134

                        @Jolly said in Not a riot:

                        @Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:

                        They are, actually. And they've a great program, which is a big part of why they seldom make the news. We've far better than average police officers here.

                        You're too old, though. And you're unqualified.

                        I am too old. But I don't need a job. Besides, I've already had bullets coming through the windows of my workplace. I've been attacked with a knife in the hallway.

                        Time for you to have a little excitement. Would be great background for a book...

                        I'm good. Burnout's a big problem in the profession and it's not my thing anyway.

                        Please love yourself.

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                        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                          Amazingly, most of the protesters and the police in cities across the country are trying to keep things peaceful. But there seems to be a lot of talk about violent protesters here on TNCR and a blind eye turned toward violent cops. Only reason I post shit like this. It's definitely not the norm.

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                          #135

                          @Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:

                          there seems to be a lot of talk about violent protesters here on TNCR and a blind eye turned toward violent cops.

                          Wrong

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                          • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                            Amazingly, most of the protesters and the police in cities across the country are trying to keep things peaceful. But there seems to be a lot of talk about violent protesters here on TNCR and a blind eye turned toward violent cops. Only reason I post shit like this. It's definitely not the norm.

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                            Larry
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                            @Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:

                            Amazingly, most of the protesters and the police in cities across the country are trying to keep things peaceful. But there seems to be a lot of talk about violent protesters here on TNCR and a blind eye turned toward violent cops. Only reason I post shit like this. It's definitely not the norm.

                            First you've got to stop attributing things said about anarchist types to protesters. Second, you've got to stop thinking of all the protesters as nice, innocent people. Many are. But many aren't. Third, I've not seen anyone attempt to gloss over the fact that there have been a few bad cops. There's going to be a few good among the bad, and a few bad among the good.

                            That said, you try risking your life by putting on a police uniform and walking out into a mob of violent things armed with bricks and firebombs, getting spit on, slapped, things thrown at you, with a city mayor tying your hands behind your back, and let's see how long it is before YOU react in the wrong way.

                            The innocent and nice people who simply want to march in a protest need to go home and get out of the way. There is no protest any longer. People are even beginning to forget the guy's name. Their protest has been ruined. Whatever point they wanted to make has been made as good as it can be made. So they need to go home, get out of the way, so the police can do their job.

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                              Horace
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                              The way our pop culture thinks of cops these days I imagine will be looked back on at some point with the same disdain we have for the folk who spit on vietnam vets.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                                Jolly
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                                By a Vietnam Vet on another board....

                                I've told this story before, but it never gets old.

                                Riding on a big green ARMY bus, on the way from the separation station in Oakland where we'd just been discharged from the army, to the San Francisco airport. Up ahead on the freeway a bunch of anti-war protestors were in wait, and when they saw the bus jumped out onto the freeway to stop traffic. When the driver, a civilian, got the bus stopped he opened the two doors and yelled "Go get 'em boys!!" Unfortunately we never caught even one of them, they scrambled up the embankment and over the chain link fence before we could get to them, and we were running hard.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                  @Jolly said in Not a riot:

                                  @Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:

                                  They are, actually. And they've a great program, which is a big part of why they seldom make the news. We've far better than average police officers here.

                                  You're too old, though. And you're unqualified.

                                  I am too old. But I don't need a job. Besides, I've already had bullets coming through the windows of my workplace. I've been attacked with a knife in the hallway.

                                  Time for you to have a little excitement. Would be great background for a book...

                                  I'm good. Burnout's a big problem in the profession and it's not my thing anyway.

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                                  A Former User
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                                  @Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:

                                  @Jolly said in Not a riot:

                                  @Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:

                                  They are, actually. And they've a great program, which is a big part of why they seldom make the news. We've far better than average police officers here.

                                  You're too old, though. And you're unqualified.

                                  I am too old. But I don't need a job. Besides, I've already had bullets coming through the windows of my workplace. I've been attacked with a knife in the hallway.

                                  Time for you to have a little excitement. Would be great background for a book...

                                  I'm good. Burnout's a big problem in the profession and it's not my thing anyway.

                                  My son is city PD. Graveyard for 4 years straight. "south" side of town. He got burned out long ago. Still plugging away though. Must be the jarhead in him. He does have a young family to support. He runs when he's off. For miles. He'll be 35 in two days and that means he will take off, early on his birthday morning, and run 35 miles that day. His shift and area will change one day, but he doesn't fight it. He accepts what they assigned and hasn't gotten into trouble yet in his four short years. But he is withdrawn. He has dealt with too much too often and has just basically given up hope for mankind. But I'm so dammed proud of him.
                                  But anyways, the reason for the reply is to ponder the possibilities of "drone" cops that are utilized when needed. Robocops! Is it the future?

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                                    Jolly
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                                    #140

                                    Graveyards will mess with your head, or at least they do that for me. Maybe he needs to start looking around a bit...With his veteran's points, he might get on with the Feds. Some interesting LE jobs there.

                                    My wife's first cousin was U.S. Marshal of the Year, a few years back. He runs a fugitive apprehension team. For the most part, he enjoys his job.

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      LuFins Dad
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                                      It’s not a riot! It’s a shopping spree.

                                      Big discounts on Dodge Charger Hellcats, everybody! https://www.musclecarsandtrucks.com/dodge-challenger-srt-hellcat-muscle-cars-stolen-george-floyd-riots-san-leandro-california/

                                      The Brad

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                                        Speaking of "Not a riot" someone counted the way words are used on the MSM news (can't find the reference now)

                                        MSNBC:
                                        "Protest" - 52
                                        "Riot" - 0

                                        NBC:
                                        "Protest" - 41
                                        "Riot" - 0

                                        FOX:
                                        "Protest" - 21
                                        "Riot" - 23

                                        Draw your own conclusions.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        • ? A Former User

                                          @Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:

                                          @Jolly said in Not a riot:

                                          @Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:

                                          They are, actually. And they've a great program, which is a big part of why they seldom make the news. We've far better than average police officers here.

                                          You're too old, though. And you're unqualified.

                                          I am too old. But I don't need a job. Besides, I've already had bullets coming through the windows of my workplace. I've been attacked with a knife in the hallway.

                                          Time for you to have a little excitement. Would be great background for a book...

                                          I'm good. Burnout's a big problem in the profession and it's not my thing anyway.

                                          My son is city PD. Graveyard for 4 years straight. "south" side of town. He got burned out long ago. Still plugging away though. Must be the jarhead in him. He does have a young family to support. He runs when he's off. For miles. He'll be 35 in two days and that means he will take off, early on his birthday morning, and run 35 miles that day. His shift and area will change one day, but he doesn't fight it. He accepts what they assigned and hasn't gotten into trouble yet in his four short years. But he is withdrawn. He has dealt with too much too often and has just basically given up hope for mankind. But I'm so dammed proud of him.
                                          But anyways, the reason for the reply is to ponder the possibilities of "drone" cops that are utilized when needed. Robocops! Is it the future?

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                                          Aqua Letifer
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                                          @nobodyssock said in Not a riot:

                                          @Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:

                                          @Jolly said in Not a riot:

                                          @Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:

                                          They are, actually. And they've a great program, which is a big part of why they seldom make the news. We've far better than average police officers here.

                                          You're too old, though. And you're unqualified.

                                          I am too old. But I don't need a job. Besides, I've already had bullets coming through the windows of my workplace. I've been attacked with a knife in the hallway.

                                          Time for you to have a little excitement. Would be great background for a book...

                                          I'm good. Burnout's a big problem in the profession and it's not my thing anyway.

                                          My son is city PD. Graveyard for 4 years straight. "south" side of town. He got burned out long ago. Still plugging away though. Must be the jarhead in him. He does have a young family to support. He runs when he's off. For miles. He'll be 35 in two days and that means he will take off, early on his birthday morning, and run 35 miles that day. His shift and area will change one day, but he doesn't fight it. He accepts what they assigned and hasn't gotten into trouble yet in his four short years. But he is withdrawn. He has dealt with too much too often and has just basically given up hope for mankind. But I'm so dammed proud of him.

                                          I used to run like that. Well, sort of; 35 miles is metal as fuck. I did 11-13 a day, every day, no breaks. Also skipped a lot of rope and did kettles.

                                          You do 35 miles a day, you're either a total mileage junkie (and I know a few like that) or you've got something else going on. Good on your son. It's an impossibly difficult job at the best of times.

                                          Please love yourself.

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