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  • MikM Mik

    Just hoping it doesn’t get uglier than it has. The problem here is there is really little or nothing to be gained by continuing. The cop has been charged. All they are doing now is hardening public sentiment.

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    @Mik said in Not a riot:

    Just hoping it doesn’t get uglier than it has.

    Just my opinion, but I dont think it will. My feeling is that the anger is not slow burning for most, just for a few. Many people who are protesting are not really effected by this, and I think that their energy will burn out rather quickly. It takes alot of energy to do this.

    There is not a critical mass of people with slow burning anger to make this last.

    If you contrast to the recent protests in HK - there they had a million people in the streets day after day after day. There is a slow anger among a critical mass of people that can enable a protest like that to continue for a long time.

    I just dont see that in the US. The average white person who goes to protest will keep it up for one day, maybe two or three, but then, they will move on to something else.

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    • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

      @Mik said in Not a riot:

      Just hoping it doesn’t get uglier than it has.

      Just my opinion, but I dont think it will. My feeling is that the anger is not slow burning for most, just for a few. Many people who are protesting are not really effected by this, and I think that their energy will burn out rather quickly. It takes alot of energy to do this.

      There is not a critical mass of people with slow burning anger to make this last.

      If you contrast to the recent protests in HK - there they had a million people in the streets day after day after day. There is a slow anger among a critical mass of people that can enable a protest like that to continue for a long time.

      I just dont see that in the US. The average white person who goes to protest will keep it up for one day, maybe two or three, but then, they will move on to something else.

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      #106

      @taiwan_girl said in Not a riot:

      @Mik said in Not a riot:

      Just hoping it doesn’t get uglier than it has.

      Just my opinion, but I dont think it will. My feeling is that the anger is not slow burning for most, just for a few. Many people who are protesting are not really effected by this, and I think that their energy will burn out rather quickly. It takes alot of energy to do this.

      There is not a critical mass of people with slow burning anger to make this last.

      If you contrast to the recent protests in HK - there they had a million people in the streets day after day after day. There is a slow anger among a critical mass of people that can enable a protest like that to continue for a long time.

      I just dont see that in the US. The average white person who goes to protest will keep it up for one day, maybe two or three, but then, they will move on to something else.

      Good points about the slow burning anger stuff.

      The reason we don't have a critical mass of slow burners is because in fact most people have lived their lives starved for personal observations that coincide with the narrative.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • HoraceH Horace

        @taiwan_girl said in Not a riot:

        @Mik said in Not a riot:

        Just hoping it doesn’t get uglier than it has.

        Just my opinion, but I dont think it will. My feeling is that the anger is not slow burning for most, just for a few. Many people who are protesting are not really effected by this, and I think that their energy will burn out rather quickly. It takes alot of energy to do this.

        There is not a critical mass of people with slow burning anger to make this last.

        If you contrast to the recent protests in HK - there they had a million people in the streets day after day after day. There is a slow anger among a critical mass of people that can enable a protest like that to continue for a long time.

        I just dont see that in the US. The average white person who goes to protest will keep it up for one day, maybe two or three, but then, they will move on to something else.

        Good points about the slow burning anger stuff.

        The reason we don't have a critical mass of slow burners is because in fact most people have lived their lives starved for personal observations that coincide with the narrative.

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        @Horace said in Not a riot:

        The reason we don't have a critical mass of slow burners is because in fact most people have lived their lives starved for personal observations that coincide with the narrative.

        Sorry, but I dont understand this. LOL

        But in trying to, I interpret it to mean that most people are not effected or have not had a direct impact from the situation. If that is what you are saying, I agree with you. LOL

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          Right, that's what I meant.

          I have heard it termed cleverly as "the demand for racism far exceeds the supply".

          But of course, saying that sort of thing in this ephemeral social climate around this Greg Floyd thing would get you socially excommunicated from polite company.

          Education is extremely important.

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            I live in the South. I keep hearing how racist the South is, so if there's a problem with racism then surely it would be seen here.

            The only racism I ever see is when I turn on the TV and some news person tells me America is a racist country. After I turn off the TV the racism is gone again.

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              Aqua Letifer
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              #110

              This in Salt Lake City. Police used their riot shields to knock down an old guy with a cane. There was one other person ahead of him; area was otherwise empty. They walked away after they knocked him down.

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              Please love yourself.

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              • LarryL Larry

                I live in the South. I keep hearing how racist the South is, so if there's a problem with racism then surely it would be seen here.

                The only racism I ever see is when I turn on the TV and some news person tells me America is a racist country. After I turn off the TV the racism is gone again.

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                Jolly
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                @Larry said in Not a riot:

                I live in the South. I keep hearing how racist the South is, so if there's a problem with racism then surely it would be seen here.

                The only racism I ever see is when I turn on the TV and some news person tells me America is a racist country. After I turn off the TV the racism is gone again.

                Oh, there's racism. In the white community. In the black community. Shucks, even the Vietnamese community here, discouraged their girls from dating black guys. Or white guys. Or even the Mexican guys.

                But it's just everyday crap, not even worth noticing, for the most part.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  And it will be with us as long as there are races. Or redheads and brunettes. or tall and short.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                    This in Salt Lake City. Police used their riot shields to knock down an old guy with a cane. There was one other person ahead of him; area was otherwise empty. They walked away after they knocked him down.

                    63FCAB56-2DCE-402F-AE55-6CC8EEB359C0.jpeg

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                    @Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:

                    This in Salt Lake City. Police used their riot shields to knock down an old guy with a cane. There was one other person ahead of him; area was otherwise empty. They walked away after they knocked him down.

                    63FCAB56-2DCE-402F-AE55-6CC8EEB359C0.jpeg

                    Got any more to that narrative? Had they been told to clear the area? Was the old guy being a disobedient asshole? What's the background?

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • JollyJ Jolly

                      @Larry said in Not a riot:

                      I live in the South. I keep hearing how racist the South is, so if there's a problem with racism then surely it would be seen here.

                      The only racism I ever see is when I turn on the TV and some news person tells me America is a racist country. After I turn off the TV the racism is gone again.

                      Oh, there's racism. In the white community. In the black community. Shucks, even the Vietnamese community here, discouraged their girls from dating black guys. Or white guys. Or even the Mexican guys.

                      But it's just everyday crap, not even worth noticing, for the most part.

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                      #114

                      @Jolly said in Not a riot:

                      @Larry said in Not a riot:

                      I live in the South. I keep hearing how racist the South is, so if there's a problem with racism then surely it would be seen here.

                      The only racism I ever see is when I turn on the TV and some news person tells me America is a racist country. After I turn off the TV the racism is gone again.

                      Oh, there's racism. In the white community. In the black community. Shucks, even the Vietnamese community here, discouraged their girls from dating black guys. Or white guys. Or even the Mexican guys.

                      But it's just everyday crap, not even worth noticing, for the most part.

                      I am not sure of the exact definition of racism, but I see that the US has a lot of segregation, and is probably still as segregated as many years ago.

                      As I said before, some (alot) of this is due to a persons own choice, but I am not sure it is a good thing. As long as people have segregation, it is very difficult to understand the other side, and that leads to problems such as are having in the US cities right now.

                      (I will add that this is not necessary only a US thing. I have seen it around teh world.)

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                      • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                        @Jolly said in Not a riot:

                        @Larry said in Not a riot:

                        I live in the South. I keep hearing how racist the South is, so if there's a problem with racism then surely it would be seen here.

                        The only racism I ever see is when I turn on the TV and some news person tells me America is a racist country. After I turn off the TV the racism is gone again.

                        Oh, there's racism. In the white community. In the black community. Shucks, even the Vietnamese community here, discouraged their girls from dating black guys. Or white guys. Or even the Mexican guys.

                        But it's just everyday crap, not even worth noticing, for the most part.

                        I am not sure of the exact definition of racism, but I see that the US has a lot of segregation, and is probably still as segregated as many years ago.

                        As I said before, some (alot) of this is due to a persons own choice, but I am not sure it is a good thing. As long as people have segregation, it is very difficult to understand the other side, and that leads to problems such as are having in the US cities right now.

                        (I will add that this is not necessary only a US thing. I have seen it around teh world.)

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                        @taiwan_girl said in Not a riot:

                        @Jolly said in Not a riot:

                        @Larry said in Not a riot:

                        I live in the South. I keep hearing how racist the South is, so if there's a problem with racism then surely it would be seen here.

                        The only racism I ever see is when I turn on the TV and some news person tells me America is a racist country. After I turn off the TV the racism is gone again.

                        Oh, there's racism. In the white community. In the black community. Shucks, even the Vietnamese community here, discouraged their girls from dating black guys. Or white guys. Or even the Mexican guys.

                        But it's just everyday crap, not even worth noticing, for the most part.

                        I am not sure of the exact definition of racism, but I see that the US has a lot of segregation, and is probably still as segregated as many years ago.

                        As I said before, some (alot) of this is due to a persons own choice, but I am not sure it is a good thing. As long as people have segregation, it is very difficult to understand the other side, and that leads to problems such as are having in the US cities right now.

                        (I will add that this is not necessary only a US thing. I have seen it around teh world.)

                        It's not an American thing, it's a people thing. Like likes like. I find nothing wrong with that. OTOH, if you want to fall in love with some blonde Swedish guy, I hope you have six kids and a wonderful life.

                        Racism exists, but it's not worth hunting for things that aren't really what I would consider racist.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          #116

                          America is MUCH less segregated than it was 50 years ago. I was there.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          • MikM Mik

                            America is MUCH less segregated than it was 50 years ago. I was there.

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                            @Mik said in Not a riot:

                            America is MUCH less segregated than it was 50 years ago. I was there.

                            Dude, you were there when they abolished slavery.

                            I was only joking

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                              Lara Logan posted this on Twitter: Note the contradictions............(sorry if you all have seen this before)
                              10 Points of Action.jpg

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                              • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                @Jolly said in Not a riot:

                                @Larry said in Not a riot:

                                I live in the South. I keep hearing how racist the South is, so if there's a problem with racism then surely it would be seen here.

                                The only racism I ever see is when I turn on the TV and some news person tells me America is a racist country. After I turn off the TV the racism is gone again.

                                Oh, there's racism. In the white community. In the black community. Shucks, even the Vietnamese community here, discouraged their girls from dating black guys. Or white guys. Or even the Mexican guys.

                                But it's just everyday crap, not even worth noticing, for the most part.

                                I am not sure of the exact definition of racism, but I see that the US has a lot of segregation, and is probably still as segregated as many years ago.

                                As I said before, some (alot) of this is due to a persons own choice, but I am not sure it is a good thing. As long as people have segregation, it is very difficult to understand the other side, and that leads to problems such as are having in the US cities right now.

                                (I will add that this is not necessary only a US thing. I have seen it around teh world.)

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                                @taiwan_girl said in Not a riot:

                                @Jolly said in Not a riot:

                                @Larry said in Not a riot:

                                I live in the South. I keep hearing how racist the South is, so if there's a problem with racism then surely it would be seen here.

                                The only racism I ever see is when I turn on the TV and some news person tells me America is a racist country. After I turn off the TV the racism is gone again.

                                Oh, there's racism. In the white community. In the black community. Shucks, even the Vietnamese community here, discouraged their girls from dating black guys. Or white guys. Or even the Mexican guys.

                                But it's just everyday crap, not even worth noticing, for the most part.

                                I am not sure of the exact definition of racism, but I see that the US has a lot of segregation, and is probably still as segregated as many years ago.

                                As I said before, some (alot) of this is due to a persons own choice, but I am not sure it is a good thing. As long as people have segregation, it is very difficult to understand the other side, and that leads to problems such as are having in the US cities right now.

                                (I will add that this is not necessary only a US thing. I have seen it around teh world.)

                                The other side?

                                I question your point of view.

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                                  Lara Logan posted this on Twitter: Note the contradictions............(sorry if you all have seen this before)
                                  10 Points of Action.jpg

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                                  @Tav-D said in Not a riot:

                                  Lara Logan posted this on Twitter: Note the contradictions............(sorry if you all have seen this before)

                                  I love that the acronym is 'RAM'.

                                  You were warned.

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                                    Aqua Letifer
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                                    Please love yourself.

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                                      #122

                                      @Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:

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                                      Not only did that police officer just lose their job I hope he/she sits in jail with a rioter/looter. No pension or retirement either.

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                                        Amazingly, most of the protesters and the police in cities across the country are trying to keep things peaceful. But there seems to be a lot of talk about violent protesters here on TNCR and a blind eye turned toward violent cops. Only reason I post shit like this. It's definitely not the norm.

                                        Please love yourself.

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                                        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                          Amazingly, most of the protesters and the police in cities across the country are trying to keep things peaceful. But there seems to be a lot of talk about violent protesters here on TNCR and a blind eye turned toward violent cops. Only reason I post shit like this. It's definitely not the norm.

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                                          #124

                                          @Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:

                                          Amazingly, most of the protesters and the police in cities across the country are trying to keep things peaceful. But there seems to be a lot of talk about violent protesters here on TNCR and a blind eye turned toward violent cops. Only reason I post shit like this. It's definitely not the norm.

                                          A violent cop just stokes the unrest. Their actions should be viewed in the same light as a rioter. It amazes me that some cops have not got the memo yet. Rather than burn down cities however, they need to be stripped of their livelihoods.

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