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  • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

    @Jolly said in Not a riot:

    @Larry said in Not a riot:

    I live in the South. I keep hearing how racist the South is, so if there's a problem with racism then surely it would be seen here.

    The only racism I ever see is when I turn on the TV and some news person tells me America is a racist country. After I turn off the TV the racism is gone again.

    Oh, there's racism. In the white community. In the black community. Shucks, even the Vietnamese community here, discouraged their girls from dating black guys. Or white guys. Or even the Mexican guys.

    But it's just everyday crap, not even worth noticing, for the most part.

    I am not sure of the exact definition of racism, but I see that the US has a lot of segregation, and is probably still as segregated as many years ago.

    As I said before, some (alot) of this is due to a persons own choice, but I am not sure it is a good thing. As long as people have segregation, it is very difficult to understand the other side, and that leads to problems such as are having in the US cities right now.

    (I will add that this is not necessary only a US thing. I have seen it around teh world.)

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    #115

    @taiwan_girl said in Not a riot:

    @Jolly said in Not a riot:

    @Larry said in Not a riot:

    I live in the South. I keep hearing how racist the South is, so if there's a problem with racism then surely it would be seen here.

    The only racism I ever see is when I turn on the TV and some news person tells me America is a racist country. After I turn off the TV the racism is gone again.

    Oh, there's racism. In the white community. In the black community. Shucks, even the Vietnamese community here, discouraged their girls from dating black guys. Or white guys. Or even the Mexican guys.

    But it's just everyday crap, not even worth noticing, for the most part.

    I am not sure of the exact definition of racism, but I see that the US has a lot of segregation, and is probably still as segregated as many years ago.

    As I said before, some (alot) of this is due to a persons own choice, but I am not sure it is a good thing. As long as people have segregation, it is very difficult to understand the other side, and that leads to problems such as are having in the US cities right now.

    (I will add that this is not necessary only a US thing. I have seen it around teh world.)

    It's not an American thing, it's a people thing. Like likes like. I find nothing wrong with that. OTOH, if you want to fall in love with some blonde Swedish guy, I hope you have six kids and a wonderful life.

    Racism exists, but it's not worth hunting for things that aren't really what I would consider racist.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • MikM Away
      MikM Away
      Mik
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      #116

      America is MUCH less segregated than it was 50 years ago. I was there.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • MikM Mik

        America is MUCH less segregated than it was 50 years ago. I was there.

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        @Mik said in Not a riot:

        America is MUCH less segregated than it was 50 years ago. I was there.

        Dude, you were there when they abolished slavery.

        I was only joking

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          Tav D
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          #118

          Lara Logan posted this on Twitter: Note the contradictions............(sorry if you all have seen this before)
          10 Points of Action.jpg

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          • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

            @Jolly said in Not a riot:

            @Larry said in Not a riot:

            I live in the South. I keep hearing how racist the South is, so if there's a problem with racism then surely it would be seen here.

            The only racism I ever see is when I turn on the TV and some news person tells me America is a racist country. After I turn off the TV the racism is gone again.

            Oh, there's racism. In the white community. In the black community. Shucks, even the Vietnamese community here, discouraged their girls from dating black guys. Or white guys. Or even the Mexican guys.

            But it's just everyday crap, not even worth noticing, for the most part.

            I am not sure of the exact definition of racism, but I see that the US has a lot of segregation, and is probably still as segregated as many years ago.

            As I said before, some (alot) of this is due to a persons own choice, but I am not sure it is a good thing. As long as people have segregation, it is very difficult to understand the other side, and that leads to problems such as are having in the US cities right now.

            (I will add that this is not necessary only a US thing. I have seen it around teh world.)

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            #119

            @taiwan_girl said in Not a riot:

            @Jolly said in Not a riot:

            @Larry said in Not a riot:

            I live in the South. I keep hearing how racist the South is, so if there's a problem with racism then surely it would be seen here.

            The only racism I ever see is when I turn on the TV and some news person tells me America is a racist country. After I turn off the TV the racism is gone again.

            Oh, there's racism. In the white community. In the black community. Shucks, even the Vietnamese community here, discouraged their girls from dating black guys. Or white guys. Or even the Mexican guys.

            But it's just everyday crap, not even worth noticing, for the most part.

            I am not sure of the exact definition of racism, but I see that the US has a lot of segregation, and is probably still as segregated as many years ago.

            As I said before, some (alot) of this is due to a persons own choice, but I am not sure it is a good thing. As long as people have segregation, it is very difficult to understand the other side, and that leads to problems such as are having in the US cities right now.

            (I will add that this is not necessary only a US thing. I have seen it around teh world.)

            The other side?

            I question your point of view.

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            • T Tav D

              Lara Logan posted this on Twitter: Note the contradictions............(sorry if you all have seen this before)
              10 Points of Action.jpg

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              jon-nyc
              wrote on last edited by
              #120

              @Tav-D said in Not a riot:

              Lara Logan posted this on Twitter: Note the contradictions............(sorry if you all have seen this before)

              I love that the acronym is 'RAM'.

              Only non-witches get due process.

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              • Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                Aqua Letifer
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                #121

                F7FA6649-243B-4ECB-858E-A5B9D640F08E.jpeg

                Please love yourself.

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                • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

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                  #122

                  @Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:

                  F7FA6649-243B-4ECB-858E-A5B9D640F08E.jpeg

                  Not only did that police officer just lose their job I hope he/she sits in jail with a rioter/looter. No pension or retirement either.

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                    Aqua Letifer
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #123

                    Amazingly, most of the protesters and the police in cities across the country are trying to keep things peaceful. But there seems to be a lot of talk about violent protesters here on TNCR and a blind eye turned toward violent cops. Only reason I post shit like this. It's definitely not the norm.

                    Please love yourself.

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                    • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                      Amazingly, most of the protesters and the police in cities across the country are trying to keep things peaceful. But there seems to be a lot of talk about violent protesters here on TNCR and a blind eye turned toward violent cops. Only reason I post shit like this. It's definitely not the norm.

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                      Loki
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #124

                      @Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:

                      Amazingly, most of the protesters and the police in cities across the country are trying to keep things peaceful. But there seems to be a lot of talk about violent protesters here on TNCR and a blind eye turned toward violent cops. Only reason I post shit like this. It's definitely not the norm.

                      A violent cop just stokes the unrest. Their actions should be viewed in the same light as a rioter. It amazes me that some cops have not got the memo yet. Rather than burn down cities however, they need to be stripped of their livelihoods.

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                      • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                        Amazingly, most of the protesters and the police in cities across the country are trying to keep things peaceful. But there seems to be a lot of talk about violent protesters here on TNCR and a blind eye turned toward violent cops. Only reason I post shit like this. It's definitely not the norm.

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                        George K
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #125

                        @Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:

                        Amazingly, most of the protesters and the police in cities across the country are trying to keep things peaceful. But there seems to be a lot of talk about violent protesters here on TNCR and a blind eye turned toward violent cops. Only reason I post shit like this. It's definitely not the norm.

                        How many people have been killed by police while demonstrating in the last few days?

                        How many people have been killed by demonstrators in the last few days?

                        I'll wait, patiently, for your response.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • George KG George K

                          @Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:

                          Amazingly, most of the protesters and the police in cities across the country are trying to keep things peaceful. But there seems to be a lot of talk about violent protesters here on TNCR and a blind eye turned toward violent cops. Only reason I post shit like this. It's definitely not the norm.

                          How many people have been killed by police while demonstrating in the last few days?

                          How many people have been killed by demonstrators in the last few days?

                          I'll wait, patiently, for your response.

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                          Aqua Letifer
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                          #126

                          @George-K said in Not a riot:

                          @Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:

                          Amazingly, most of the protesters and the police in cities across the country are trying to keep things peaceful. But there seems to be a lot of talk about violent protesters here on TNCR and a blind eye turned toward violent cops. Only reason I post shit like this. It's definitely not the norm.

                          How many people have been killed by police while demonstrating in the last few days?

                          How many people have been killed by demonstrators in the last few days?

                          I'll wait, patiently, for your response.

                          You gonna normalize that as a percentage of both crowd sizes? Because you know the protester/cop participation ratio is not 1:1, right? Why don't you let me know what you think it is if we're playing Quiz Show.

                          Please love yourself.

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                          • L Loki

                            @Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:

                            Amazingly, most of the protesters and the police in cities across the country are trying to keep things peaceful. But there seems to be a lot of talk about violent protesters here on TNCR and a blind eye turned toward violent cops. Only reason I post shit like this. It's definitely not the norm.

                            A violent cop just stokes the unrest. Their actions should be viewed in the same light as a rioter. It amazes me that some cops have not got the memo yet. Rather than burn down cities however, they need to be stripped of their livelihoods.

                            Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                            Aqua Letifer
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                            #127

                            @Loki said in Not a riot:

                            @Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:

                            Amazingly, most of the protesters and the police in cities across the country are trying to keep things peaceful. But there seems to be a lot of talk about violent protesters here on TNCR and a blind eye turned toward violent cops. Only reason I post shit like this. It's definitely not the norm.

                            A violent cop just stokes the unrest. Their actions should be viewed in the same light as a rioter. It amazes me that some cops have not got the memo yet. Rather than burn down cities however, they need to be stripped of their livelihoods.

                            Both sides are getting tired and angrier. It's bad news for everyone involved.

                            Please love yourself.

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                            • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                              @George-K said in Not a riot:

                              @Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:

                              Amazingly, most of the protesters and the police in cities across the country are trying to keep things peaceful. But there seems to be a lot of talk about violent protesters here on TNCR and a blind eye turned toward violent cops. Only reason I post shit like this. It's definitely not the norm.

                              How many people have been killed by police while demonstrating in the last few days?

                              How many people have been killed by demonstrators in the last few days?

                              I'll wait, patiently, for your response.

                              You gonna normalize that as a percentage of both crowd sizes? Because you know the protester/cop participation ratio is not 1:1, right? Why don't you let me know what you think it is if we're playing Quiz Show.

                              JollyJ Offline
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                              Jolly
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #128

                              @Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:

                              @George-K said in Not a riot:

                              @Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:

                              Amazingly, most of the protesters and the police in cities across the country are trying to keep things peaceful. But there seems to be a lot of talk about violent protesters here on TNCR and a blind eye turned toward violent cops. Only reason I post shit like this. It's definitely not the norm.

                              How many people have been killed by police while demonstrating in the last few days?

                              How many people have been killed by demonstrators in the last few days?

                              I'll wait, patiently, for your response.

                              You gonna normalize that as a percentage of both crowd sizes? Because you know the protester/cop participation ratio is not 1:1, right? Why don't you let me know what you think it is if we're playing Quiz Show.

                              What matters more? Crowd size? Or number of lethal weapons available?

                              Seems to me, the cops might have quite a few more weapons...

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                Horace
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                                #129

                                It would be interesting to know the practical difficulty of the task we've set before us as a society - to maintain an effective police force, that never abuses their power. I'm not really clear, personally, about how difficult that problem is. I'm pretty sure it's pretty hard though, and I think we may be too down on ourselves regarding our current efforts towards a solution.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #130

                                  Yo, Aqua...I bet the cops are hiring in your area!😄

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    Aqua Letifer
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #131

                                    They are, actually. And they've a great program, which is a big part of why they seldom make the news. We've far better than average police officers here.

                                    You're too old, though. And you're unqualified.

                                    Please love yourself.

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                                    • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                      They are, actually. And they've a great program, which is a big part of why they seldom make the news. We've far better than average police officers here.

                                      You're too old, though. And you're unqualified.

                                      JollyJ Offline
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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #132

                                      @Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:

                                      They are, actually. And they've a great program, which is a big part of why they seldom make the news. We've far better than average police officers here.

                                      You're too old, though. And you're unqualified.

                                      I am too old. But I don't need a job. Besides, I've already had bullets coming through the windows of my workplace. I've been attacked with a knife in the hallway.

                                      Time for you to have a little excitement. Would be great background for a book...

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        Rainman
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #133

                                        Portland police have a very hard time hiring.
                                        Can't imagine why.
                                        They keep lowering their requirements, from what I've heard.

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                                        • JollyJ Jolly

                                          @Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:

                                          They are, actually. And they've a great program, which is a big part of why they seldom make the news. We've far better than average police officers here.

                                          You're too old, though. And you're unqualified.

                                          I am too old. But I don't need a job. Besides, I've already had bullets coming through the windows of my workplace. I've been attacked with a knife in the hallway.

                                          Time for you to have a little excitement. Would be great background for a book...

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                                          Aqua LetiferA Offline
                                          Aqua Letifer
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #134

                                          @Jolly said in Not a riot:

                                          @Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:

                                          They are, actually. And they've a great program, which is a big part of why they seldom make the news. We've far better than average police officers here.

                                          You're too old, though. And you're unqualified.

                                          I am too old. But I don't need a job. Besides, I've already had bullets coming through the windows of my workplace. I've been attacked with a knife in the hallway.

                                          Time for you to have a little excitement. Would be great background for a book...

                                          I'm good. Burnout's a big problem in the profession and it's not my thing anyway.

                                          Please love yourself.

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