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Pixel Phone vs Siri on dictation.

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    Loki
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    Maybe I’m a wussy but I perceive my iPhone is more protected than the android world. That being the case I don’t sweat the feature/function wars.

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      Pixel does speech-to-text computation locally, right on the phone. iPhone/Siri does speech-to-text computation in the Cloud, it records your speech, sends the recorded speech to some server on the Internet, that server does speech-to-text computation, then send the text back to the iPhone, hence the lag.

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        What a world we live in.

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          Any claim that Pixel is superior to iPhone doesn't pass the giggle test, which is something science uses to validate results.

          Education is extremely important.

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            Any claim that Pixel is superior to iPhone doesn't pass the giggle test, which is something science uses to validate results.

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            Doctor Phibes
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            @Horace said in Pixel Phone vs Siri on dictation.:

            Any claim that Pixel is superior to iPhone doesn't pass the giggle test, which is something science uses to validate results.

            Fuck off.

            I was only joking

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              Horace
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              No Churchill picture this time?

              Education is extremely important.

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                Doctor Phibes
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                I was only joking

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                  Phibes when is that photo from?

                  Only non-witches get due process.

                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    Horace
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                    From when the water was cold?

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • AxtremusA Axtremus

                      Pixel does speech-to-text computation locally, right on the phone. iPhone/Siri does speech-to-text computation in the Cloud, it records your speech, sends the recorded speech to some server on the Internet, that server does speech-to-text computation, then send the text back to the iPhone, hence the lag.

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                      @Axtremus said in Pixel Phone vs Siri on dictation.:

                      Pixel does speech-to-text computation locally, right on the phone. iPhone/Siri does speech-to-text computation in the Cloud, it records your speech, sends the recorded speech to some server on the Internet, that server does speech-to-text computation, then send the text back to the iPhone, hence the lag.

                      Ah, thanks, so it's not related to the phone's CPU power at all. But then it should be very similar on every other sufficiently powerful Android phone with the same software.

                      It's so amazing how the "fat client vs thin client" issues pop up and are shifted back and forth almost continuously for the last 30 years.

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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        Phibes when is that photo from?

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                        @jon-nyc said in Pixel Phone vs Siri on dictation.:

                        Phibes when is that photo from?

                        I think it's from 1922

                        I was only joking

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                          So he’s only 47 there.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                            He looked old almost his entire life

                            I was only joking

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                              @jon-nyc said in Pixel Phone vs Siri on dictation.:

                              Phibes when is that photo from?

                              I think it's from 1922

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                              @Doctor-Phibes said in Pixel Phone vs Siri on dictation.:

                              @jon-nyc said in Pixel Phone vs Siri on dictation.:

                              Phibes when is that photo from?

                              I think it's from 1922

                              http://theknittingneedleandthedamagedone.blogspot.com/2013/06/hitting-beach-with-and-in-your-knitting.html

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                @Axtremus said in Pixel Phone vs Siri on dictation.:

                                Pixel does speech-to-text computation locally, right on the phone. iPhone/Siri does speech-to-text computation in the Cloud, it records your speech, sends the recorded speech to some server on the Internet, that server does speech-to-text computation, then send the text back to the iPhone, hence the lag.

                                Ah, thanks, so it's not related to the phone's CPU power at all. But then it should be very similar on every other sufficiently powerful Android phone with the same software.

                                It's so amazing how the "fat client vs thin client" issues pop up and are shifted back and forth almost continuously for the last 30 years.

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                                @Klaus said in Pixel Phone vs Siri on dictation.:

                                @Axtremus said in Pixel Phone vs Siri on dictation.:

                                Pixel does speech-to-text computation locally, right on the phone. iPhone/Siri does speech-to-text computation in the Cloud, it records your speech, sends the recorded speech to some server on the Internet, that server does speech-to-text computation, then send the text back to the iPhone, hence the lag.

                                Ah, thanks, so it's not related to the phone's CPU power at all. But then it should be very similar on every other sufficiently powerful Android phone with the same software.

                                It's so amazing how the "fat client vs thin client" issues pop up and are shifted back and forth almost continuously for the last 30 years.

                                It’s possible to do both. Google/Pixel used to do speech-to-text in the Cloud like Apple/Siri, then somewhere between hardware and algorithmic advancements, switched to doing speech-to-text locally. There is no fundamental reason why a system cannot do both — do local speech-to-text to get a first order approximation quickly (so the user starts seeing text very quickly), but also do speech-to-text in the Cloud for refinements (user sees improved results a second or two later, such as better accuracy and resolution of special nouns that better fits the larger context).

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                                  From when the water was cold?

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                                  @Horace said in Pixel Phone vs Siri on dictation.:

                                  From when the water was cold?

                                  Lolz

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                                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                    He looked old almost his entire life

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                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Pixel Phone vs Siri on dictation.:

                                    He looked old almost his entire life

                                    That is true. Some people look like they are 60 when they are 20, continue to look 60 when they are 60, and finally look younger than their age when they are over 60. LOL

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                                      Doctor Phibes
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                                      And yet most newborn babies look like Churchill.

                                      Spooky, huh!

                                      I was only joking

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                                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                        And yet most newborn babies look like Churchill.

                                        Spooky, huh!

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                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Pixel Phone vs Siri on dictation.:

                                        And yet most newborn babies look like Churchill.

                                        I used to tell my patients (obviously only those who had a good sense of humor) that all newborns look like Edward G. Robinson.

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                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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