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Pixel Phone vs Siri on dictation.

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    Axtremus
    wrote on 28 May 2020, 15:12 last edited by Axtremus
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    Pixel does speech-to-text computation locally, right on the phone. iPhone/Siri does speech-to-text computation in the Cloud, it records your speech, sends the recorded speech to some server on the Internet, that server does speech-to-text computation, then send the text back to the iPhone, hence the lag.

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      89th
      wrote on 28 May 2020, 15:31 last edited by
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      What a world we live in.

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        Horace
        wrote on 28 May 2020, 15:41 last edited by
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        Any claim that Pixel is superior to iPhone doesn't pass the giggle test, which is something science uses to validate results.

        Education is extremely important.

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        • H Horace
          28 May 2020, 15:41

          Any claim that Pixel is superior to iPhone doesn't pass the giggle test, which is something science uses to validate results.

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          Doctor Phibes
          wrote on 28 May 2020, 15:51 last edited by
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          @Horace said in Pixel Phone vs Siri on dictation.:

          Any claim that Pixel is superior to iPhone doesn't pass the giggle test, which is something science uses to validate results.

          Fuck off.

          I was only joking

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            Horace
            wrote on 28 May 2020, 15:58 last edited by
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            No Churchill picture this time?

            Education is extremely important.

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              Doctor Phibes
              wrote on 28 May 2020, 16:00 last edited by
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              I was only joking

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                jon-nyc
                wrote on 29 May 2020, 03:10 last edited by
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                Phibes when is that photo from?

                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                -Cormac McCarthy

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                  Horace
                  wrote on 29 May 2020, 03:38 last edited by
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                  From when the water was cold?

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • A Axtremus
                    28 May 2020, 15:12

                    Pixel does speech-to-text computation locally, right on the phone. iPhone/Siri does speech-to-text computation in the Cloud, it records your speech, sends the recorded speech to some server on the Internet, that server does speech-to-text computation, then send the text back to the iPhone, hence the lag.

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                    Klaus
                    wrote on 29 May 2020, 09:32 last edited by Klaus
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                    @Axtremus said in Pixel Phone vs Siri on dictation.:

                    Pixel does speech-to-text computation locally, right on the phone. iPhone/Siri does speech-to-text computation in the Cloud, it records your speech, sends the recorded speech to some server on the Internet, that server does speech-to-text computation, then send the text back to the iPhone, hence the lag.

                    Ah, thanks, so it's not related to the phone's CPU power at all. But then it should be very similar on every other sufficiently powerful Android phone with the same software.

                    It's so amazing how the "fat client vs thin client" issues pop up and are shifted back and forth almost continuously for the last 30 years.

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                      29 May 2020, 03:10

                      Phibes when is that photo from?

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                      Doctor Phibes
                      wrote on 29 May 2020, 10:53 last edited by
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                      @jon-nyc said in Pixel Phone vs Siri on dictation.:

                      Phibes when is that photo from?

                      I think it's from 1922

                      I was only joking

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on 29 May 2020, 10:58 last edited by jon-nyc
                        #15

                        So he’s only 47 there.

                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                        -Cormac McCarthy

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                          Doctor Phibes
                          wrote on 29 May 2020, 11:38 last edited by
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                          He looked old almost his entire life

                          I was only joking

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                          • D Doctor Phibes
                            29 May 2020, 10:53

                            @jon-nyc said in Pixel Phone vs Siri on dictation.:

                            Phibes when is that photo from?

                            I think it's from 1922

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                            George K
                            wrote on 29 May 2020, 11:42 last edited by
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                            @Doctor-Phibes said in Pixel Phone vs Siri on dictation.:

                            @jon-nyc said in Pixel Phone vs Siri on dictation.:

                            Phibes when is that photo from?

                            I think it's from 1922

                            http://theknittingneedleandthedamagedone.blogspot.com/2013/06/hitting-beach-with-and-in-your-knitting.html

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • K Klaus
                              29 May 2020, 09:32

                              @Axtremus said in Pixel Phone vs Siri on dictation.:

                              Pixel does speech-to-text computation locally, right on the phone. iPhone/Siri does speech-to-text computation in the Cloud, it records your speech, sends the recorded speech to some server on the Internet, that server does speech-to-text computation, then send the text back to the iPhone, hence the lag.

                              Ah, thanks, so it's not related to the phone's CPU power at all. But then it should be very similar on every other sufficiently powerful Android phone with the same software.

                              It's so amazing how the "fat client vs thin client" issues pop up and are shifted back and forth almost continuously for the last 30 years.

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                              Axtremus
                              wrote on 29 May 2020, 12:05 last edited by
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                              @Klaus said in Pixel Phone vs Siri on dictation.:

                              @Axtremus said in Pixel Phone vs Siri on dictation.:

                              Pixel does speech-to-text computation locally, right on the phone. iPhone/Siri does speech-to-text computation in the Cloud, it records your speech, sends the recorded speech to some server on the Internet, that server does speech-to-text computation, then send the text back to the iPhone, hence the lag.

                              Ah, thanks, so it's not related to the phone's CPU power at all. But then it should be very similar on every other sufficiently powerful Android phone with the same software.

                              It's so amazing how the "fat client vs thin client" issues pop up and are shifted back and forth almost continuously for the last 30 years.

                              It’s possible to do both. Google/Pixel used to do speech-to-text in the Cloud like Apple/Siri, then somewhere between hardware and algorithmic advancements, switched to doing speech-to-text locally. There is no fundamental reason why a system cannot do both — do local speech-to-text to get a first order approximation quickly (so the user starts seeing text very quickly), but also do speech-to-text in the Cloud for refinements (user sees improved results a second or two later, such as better accuracy and resolution of special nouns that better fits the larger context).

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                                29 May 2020, 03:38

                                From when the water was cold?

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                                89th
                                wrote on 29 May 2020, 12:34 last edited by
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                                @Horace said in Pixel Phone vs Siri on dictation.:

                                From when the water was cold?

                                Lolz

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                                  29 May 2020, 11:38

                                  He looked old almost his entire life

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                                  taiwan_girl
                                  wrote on 29 May 2020, 16:18 last edited by
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                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Pixel Phone vs Siri on dictation.:

                                  He looked old almost his entire life

                                  That is true. Some people look like they are 60 when they are 20, continue to look 60 when they are 60, and finally look younger than their age when they are over 60. LOL

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                                    Doctor Phibes
                                    wrote on 29 May 2020, 18:30 last edited by
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                                    And yet most newborn babies look like Churchill.

                                    Spooky, huh!

                                    I was only joking

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                                    • D Doctor Phibes
                                      29 May 2020, 18:30

                                      And yet most newborn babies look like Churchill.

                                      Spooky, huh!

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                                      George K
                                      wrote on 29 May 2020, 18:39 last edited by
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                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Pixel Phone vs Siri on dictation.:

                                      And yet most newborn babies look like Churchill.

                                      I used to tell my patients (obviously only those who had a good sense of humor) that all newborns look like Edward G. Robinson.

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                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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