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US warns Ukraine invasion may be imminent. Ukraine disagrees.

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  • MikM Offline
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    Mik
    wrote on last edited by Mik
    #10

    Yeah, a lack of solidarity in NATO is a bad thing in the face of aggression. I suppose Germany has too much to lose financially and energy-wise.

    SWIFT is more of a threat than a viable weapon. Anything where such action has to be unanimous is pretty close to a guarantee that trigger won't get pulled. Hopefully they have in-between measures so that it could get worse still for Russia.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • AxtremusA Offline
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      Axtremus
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      #11

      https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/biden-warns-americans-leave-ukraine-russia-troops-world-war-rcna15781

      "Biden warns Americans in Ukraine to leave ..."

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      • RenaudaR Offline
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        Renauda
        wrote on last edited by Renauda
        #12

        Ax you realize, I hope, that Biden regardless of being a doddering old fool, has to say things like that for domestic consumption. If he didn’t and the Russians invaded, he would be more than just pilloried by his own electorate.

        In any case there might just be some chinks in Putin’s armour from a source you might find surprising:

        https://www.justsecurity.org/80149/retired-russian-generals-criticize-putin-over-ukraine-renew-call-for-his-resignation/

        I know for a fact that open letter is causing quite the public buzz in Russia.

        Elbows up!

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        • MikM Offline
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          wrote on last edited by
          #13

          Mr. Putin might be well served to remember the quote “I must find out where my people are going so I may lead them”

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • MikM Offline
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            wrote on last edited by
            #14

            Just read the whole article. Makes a lot of sense.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • MikM Mik

              Mr. Putin might be well served to remember the quote “I must find out where my people are going so I may lead them”

              RenaudaR Offline
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              Renauda
              wrote on last edited by Renauda
              #15

              @mik

              True, however I suspect that Putin has become so removed from reality, that he actually believes that he has become the incarnation of his own imagination’s idea of a 19th century Tsar. He even has co-opted Orthodox clergy to reinforce that very notion from the Sunday pulpit.

              Elbows up!

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              • MikM Offline
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                wrote on last edited by
                #16

                Let us hope not, but remaining in power for too long has negative consequences for most everybody.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • MikM Mik

                  Let us hope not, but remaining in power for too long has negative consequences for most everybody.

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                  Doctor Phibes
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #17

                  @mik said in US warns Ukraine invasion may be imminent. Ukraine disagrees.:

                  remaining in power for too long has negative consequences for most everybody

                  You've got that right. I've been a middle-manager for nigh-on 20 years, and sometimes I wake up shouting "HR????? YOU WANNA SEE, HR, ASSHOLE? I'VE GOT A MANILA FOLDER CONTAINING THE DETAILS OF ALL YOUR BATHROOM BREAKS IN MY FILING CABINET! AND LET ME TELL YOU, IT'S NOT A PRETTY SITE!!!"

                  Heavy is the head that wears the crown.

                  I was only joking

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                  • LuFins DadL Offline
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                    LuFins Dad
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #18

                    We’re 2 months away from double digit inflation…
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                    The Brad

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                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                      We’re 2 months away from double digit inflation…
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                      CopperC Offline
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                      wrote on last edited by
                      #19

                      @lufins-dad said in US warns Ukraine invasion may be imminent. Ukraine disagrees.:

                      We’re 2 months away from double digit inflation…

                      A war would be a nice distraction.

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                      • George KG Offline
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                        George K
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                        #20

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • LuFins DadL Offline
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                          LuFins Dad
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                          #21

                          I forget, are we supposed to stand up to the bully and protect the people of Ukraine or are we supposed to say “None of our business” and move on?

                          If only there was a concert pianist that used to be somewhat hot to tell me how to feel about all of this!

                          The Brad

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                            LuFins Dad
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #22

                            Oh, 7.5% inflation… Almost forgot!

                            The Brad

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                            • George KG Offline
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                              George K
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #23

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                Jolly
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                                #24

                                Be afwaid, Putin. Be vewy, vewy afwaid...
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                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  89th
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                                  #25

                                  It would be awkward to be a Ukrainian athlete at the Olympics and come back to no country

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                                    #26

                                    I always have my doubts when sociologists attempt analysis and editorialize on political issues. The following link is no different, the author is a leftist sociologist who, in fact comes across to me at least, as a watered down Putin stooge. His big issue is with NATO and its expansion eastward into Ukraine. Still, he points out some interesting facts regarding his home country and how it has handled (or abnegated its responsibility to handle) its affairs with the Russian bear:

                                    https://jacobinmag.com/2022/02/us-russia-nato-donbass-maidan-minsk-war

                                    Elbows up!

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                                    • 89th8 89th

                                      It would be awkward to be a Ukrainian athlete at the Olympics and come back to no country

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                                      Renauda
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #27

                                      @89th said in US warns Ukraine invasion may be imminent. Ukraine disagrees.:

                                      It would be awkward to be a Ukrainian athlete at the Olympics and come back to no country

                                      Invading Ukraine during the Olympics would be a slap in the face to Xi. I doubt that Putin would risk embarrassing the Chinese right now.

                                      Elbows up!

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                                      • George KG Offline
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                                        George K
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #28

                                        You can run to Poland...if:

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                                        Mexico laughed.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        • MikM Mik

                                          SWIFT.

                                          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/what-is-swift-and-why-it-might-be-the-weapon-russia-fears-most/ar-AATaujb?ocid=msedgntp

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                                          taiwan_girl
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #29

                                          @mik said in US warns Ukraine invasion may be imminent. Ukraine disagrees.:

                                          SWIFT.

                                          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/what-is-swift-and-why-it-might-be-the-weapon-russia-fears-most/ar-AATaujb?ocid=msedgntp

                                          👆 This

                                          I was reading a report about how president Putin had taken steps to make Russia more "sanction" proof since the invasion of Crimea. They had "stockpiled" stuff and reduced their need for US and other western currency. But, removing them from doing USD transactions would be super super hard for them to overcome.

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