US warns Ukraine invasion may be imminent. Ukraine disagrees.
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@renauda said in US warns Ukraine invasion may be imminent. Ukraine disagrees.:
Outwardly Germany seems to be in line with other NATO members, but behind the scenes it is not taking quite as hard a line as the US, Britain and even France.
Exactly. Wild card it is.
Of course, another question is that of energy. The pipeline for natural gas is important for Germany, if not crucial.
Do you think Germany's position is related to that? Do they have an alternative to Russian natural gas?
wrote on 27 Jan 2022, 00:49 last edited by RenaudaEnergy, overall German investment into Russia and, as Mik just posted, SWIFT (We’ve got bankers!). But that may not be all:
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wrote on 27 Jan 2022, 02:16 last edited by Mik
Yeah, a lack of solidarity in NATO is a bad thing in the face of aggression. I suppose Germany has too much to lose financially and energy-wise.
SWIFT is more of a threat than a viable weapon. Anything where such action has to be unanimous is pretty close to a guarantee that trigger won't get pulled. Hopefully they have in-between measures so that it could get worse still for Russia.
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wrote on 11 Feb 2022, 01:06 last edited by
"Biden warns Americans in Ukraine to leave ..."
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wrote on 11 Feb 2022, 01:28 last edited by Renauda 2 Nov 2022, 01:34
Ax you realize, I hope, that Biden regardless of being a doddering old fool, has to say things like that for domestic consumption. If he didn’t and the Russians invaded, he would be more than just pilloried by his own electorate.
In any case there might just be some chinks in Putin’s armour from a source you might find surprising:
I know for a fact that open letter is causing quite the public buzz in Russia.
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wrote on 11 Feb 2022, 02:20 last edited by
Mr. Putin might be well served to remember the quote “I must find out where my people are going so I may lead them”
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wrote on 11 Feb 2022, 02:32 last edited by
Just read the whole article. Makes a lot of sense.
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Mr. Putin might be well served to remember the quote “I must find out where my people are going so I may lead them”
wrote on 11 Feb 2022, 04:36 last edited by Renauda 2 Nov 2022, 13:52True, however I suspect that Putin has become so removed from reality, that he actually believes that he has become the incarnation of his own imagination’s idea of a 19th century Tsar. He even has co-opted Orthodox clergy to reinforce that very notion from the Sunday pulpit.
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wrote on 11 Feb 2022, 04:50 last edited by
Let us hope not, but remaining in power for too long has negative consequences for most everybody.
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Let us hope not, but remaining in power for too long has negative consequences for most everybody.
wrote on 11 Feb 2022, 12:47 last edited by@mik said in US warns Ukraine invasion may be imminent. Ukraine disagrees.:
remaining in power for too long has negative consequences for most everybody
You've got that right. I've been a middle-manager for nigh-on 20 years, and sometimes I wake up shouting "HR????? YOU WANNA SEE, HR, ASSHOLE? I'VE GOT A MANILA FOLDER CONTAINING THE DETAILS OF ALL YOUR BATHROOM BREAKS IN MY FILING CABINET! AND LET ME TELL YOU, IT'S NOT A PRETTY SITE!!!"
Heavy is the head that wears the crown.
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wrote on 11 Feb 2022, 12:50 last edited by
We’re 2 months away from double digit inflation…
The Brad
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We’re 2 months away from double digit inflation…
wrote on 11 Feb 2022, 16:34 last edited by@lufins-dad said in US warns Ukraine invasion may be imminent. Ukraine disagrees.:
We’re 2 months away from double digit inflation…
A war would be a nice distraction.
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wrote on 11 Feb 2022, 21:18 last edited by George K 2 Nov 2022, 21:19
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wrote on 11 Feb 2022, 21:35 last edited by
I forget, are we supposed to stand up to the bully and protect the people of Ukraine or are we supposed to say “None of our business” and move on?
If only there was a concert pianist that used to be somewhat hot to tell me how to feel about all of this!
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wrote on 11 Feb 2022, 21:36 last edited by
Oh, 7.5% inflation… Almost forgot!
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wrote on 11 Feb 2022, 21:55 last edited by
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wrote on 11 Feb 2022, 22:46 last edited by
Be afwaid, Putin. Be vewy, vewy afwaid...
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wrote on 11 Feb 2022, 22:46 last edited by
It would be awkward to be a Ukrainian athlete at the Olympics and come back to no country
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wrote on 12 Feb 2022, 00:42 last edited by Renauda 2 Dec 2022, 00:48
I always have my doubts when sociologists attempt analysis and editorialize on political issues. The following link is no different, the author is a leftist sociologist who, in fact comes across to me at least, as a watered down Putin stooge. His big issue is with NATO and its expansion eastward into Ukraine. Still, he points out some interesting facts regarding his home country and how it has handled (or abnegated its responsibility to handle) its affairs with the Russian bear:
https://jacobinmag.com/2022/02/us-russia-nato-donbass-maidan-minsk-war
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wrote on 12 Feb 2022, 01:36 last edited by
@89th said in US warns Ukraine invasion may be imminent. Ukraine disagrees.:
It would be awkward to be a Ukrainian athlete at the Olympics and come back to no country
Invading Ukraine during the Olympics would be a slap in the face to Xi. I doubt that Putin would risk embarrassing the Chinese right now.
