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Neil Young: "Rogan or me."

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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    Ann Althouse:

    "Well, of course, Spotify should side with Joe Rogan. The person who makes an ultimatum like that should lose. It's ridiculous. If that worked, there'd be an obnoxious celebrity throwing his weight around every day.

    So much for 'rocking in the free world,' Neil, you big jerk."

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • 89th8 89th

      Neil Old, amirite

      RenaudaR Offline
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      Renauda
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      @89th said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":

      Neil Old, amirite

      Yes and he probably feels he has nothing to lose.

      Elbows up!

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      • MikM Away
        MikM Away
        Mik
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        #11

        'Old man, look at your life....."

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • RenaudaR Renauda

          @89th said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":

          Neil Old, amirite

          Yes and he probably feels he has nothing to lose.

          MikM Away
          MikM Away
          Mik
          wrote on last edited by
          #12

          @renauda said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":

          @89th said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":

          Neil Old, amirite

          Yes and he probably feels he has nothing to lose.

          I suspect so. But then we all have diminished filters as we get older and I imaginet most of us do not have quite as open-minded (read inexperienced) view of the world as we did when younger.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • RenaudaR Renauda

            @89th said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":

            Neil Old, amirite

            Yes and he probably feels he has nothing to lose.

            George KG Offline
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            George K
            wrote on last edited by
            #13

            @renauda said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":

            Yes and he probably feels he has nothing to lose.

            I read, somewhere, that he's sold his song catalog. I wonder what control over distribution he retained.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • George KG George K

              Ann Althouse:

              "Well, of course, Spotify should side with Joe Rogan. The person who makes an ultimatum like that should lose. It's ridiculous. If that worked, there'd be an obnoxious celebrity throwing his weight around every day.

              So much for 'rocking in the free world,' Neil, you big jerk."

              Aqua LetiferA Offline
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              Aqua Letifer
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              @george-k said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":

              So much for 'rocking in the free world,' Neil, you big jerk."

              She clearly hasn't spent even ten minutes looking into Neil Young.

              Please love yourself.

              MikM 1 Reply Last reply
              • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                @george-k said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":

                So much for 'rocking in the free world,' Neil, you big jerk."

                She clearly hasn't spent even ten minutes looking into Neil Young.

                MikM Away
                MikM Away
                Mik
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                @aqua-letifer said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":

                @george-k said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":

                So much for 'rocking in the free world,' Neil, you big jerk."

                She clearly hasn't spent even ten minutes looking into Neil Young.

                Kind of like thinking Born In The USA is a pro-American song.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • MikM Mik

                  @aqua-letifer said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":

                  @george-k said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":

                  So much for 'rocking in the free world,' Neil, you big jerk."

                  She clearly hasn't spent even ten minutes looking into Neil Young.

                  Kind of like thinking Born In The USA is a pro-American song.

                  Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                  Aqua Letifer
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                  #16

                  @mik said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":

                  She clearly hasn't spent even ten minutes looking into Neil Young.

                  Kind of like thinking Born In The USA is a pro-American song.

                  Or Fortunate Son. 😄

                  Please love yourself.

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                    jon-nyc
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                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                      89th8 Offline
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                      89th
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                      @jon-nyc said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":

                      That would be good for all parties involved.

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                        Ivorythumper
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                        neil young.JPG

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                        • George KG Offline
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                          George K
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #20

                          OK, now this is getting serious.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • MikM Away
                            MikM Away
                            Mik
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                            #21

                            😆

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              bachophile
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                              https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/28/arts/joni-mitchell-neil-young-spotify.html

                              Joni has now joined Neil.

                              Honestly I don’t care one way or the other as what’s not on Spotify I can get on Apple Music.

                              What I would like to see if now an avalanche of classic stars follow suit and see if they can break Spotify’s will to fight. Would be an Interesting social media experiment.

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                              • bachophileB bachophile

                                https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/28/arts/joni-mitchell-neil-young-spotify.html

                                Joni has now joined Neil.

                                Honestly I don’t care one way or the other as what’s not on Spotify I can get on Apple Music.

                                What I would like to see if now an avalanche of classic stars follow suit and see if they can break Spotify’s will to fight. Would be an Interesting social media experiment.

                                George KG Offline
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                                George K
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                                @bachophile said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":

                                Would be an Interesting social media experiment.

                                Indeed.

                                Some little part of me says that Spotify has the interest of the artists at heart, but it is the revenue from Rogan that puts food in its belly.

                                Like you said, I don't care either way, but I'll make some popcorn.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • George KG Offline
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                                  George K
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                                  Neil has removed the original letter, by the way.

                                  He put up a new one: "https://neilyoungarchives.com/news/1/article?id=Spotify-More-Songs-Less-Sound"

                                  He talks about the sound quality of Spotify's streaming, and in the last paragraph, he says,

                                  "I support free speech. I have never been in favor of censorship."

                                  OK then.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • George KG Offline
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                                    George K
                                    wrote on last edited by George K
                                    #25

                                    https://donsurber.blogspot.com/2022/01/frampton-comes-cropper.html

                                    There's interesting stuff about royalties in this story which @Larry might find interesting.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • George KG George K

                                      https://donsurber.blogspot.com/2022/01/frampton-comes-cropper.html

                                      There's interesting stuff about royalties in this story which @Larry might find interesting.

                                      LarryL Offline
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                                      Larry
                                      wrote on last edited by
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                                      @george-k said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":

                                      https://donsurber.blogspot.com/2022/01/frampton-comes-cropper.html

                                      There's interesting stuff about royalties in this story which @Larry might find interesting.

                                      That's why I always preferred to be in the background, and work for the suits instead of the artists themselves. Artists that aren't touring, or writing their own songs better love being famous, because that's their biggest reward. I'd rather have just a piece of the writer royalties and no one ever know who I am than to be famous s a performer of other people's songs.

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                                      • George KG George K

                                        @bachophile said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":

                                        Would be an Interesting social media experiment.

                                        Indeed.

                                        Some little part of me says that Spotify has the interest of the artists at heart, but it is the revenue from Rogan that puts food in its belly.

                                        Like you said, I don't care either way, but I'll make some popcorn.

                                        LarryL Offline
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                                        Larry
                                        wrote on last edited by
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                                        @george-k said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":

                                        @bachophile said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":

                                        Would be an Interesting social media experiment.

                                        Indeed.

                                        Some little part of me says that Spotify has the interest of the artists at heart, but it is the revenue from Rogan that puts food in its belly.

                                        Like you said, I don't care either way, but I'll make some popcorn.

                                        Spotify isn't the one who determined how royalties work, or how a given artist has structured his business. As for Neil Young, he should be grateful he ever made a dime in his life. Same for Frampton. Other than "do you feel" where he introduced the public to the wonders of the Voice Box, he didn't have much. If someone who is still getting airplay pulled this stunt Spotify's reaction might be different. But Young and Frampton??? Nah...

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                                          George K
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                                          Government official calls for censorship:

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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