Trump threatens to move convention if NC restricts capacity

[jon-nyc]

Yeah sure, but just realize that by resorting to whattaboutism you’ve basically conceded my point.

[Loki]

@jon-nyc said in Trump threatens to move convention if NC restricts capacity:

Yeah sure, but just realize that by resorting to whattaboutism you’ve basically conceded my point.

Sure I did. You opined about nuttery and I gave you a real life proof point. If one can whatabout something real as a retort to a hypothetical and that is whataboutism then whataboutism loses its rhetorical punch.

[jon-nyc]

Really? The 2016 Democratic Platform called Trump a Russian Spy? I wouldn't be completely shocked if it did, but my money would bet the other way.

[Jolly]

I think that will be in there this year...

[Loki]

@jon-nyc said in Trump threatens to move convention if NC restricts capacity:

Really? The 2016 Democratic Platform called Trump a Russian Spy? I wouldn't be completely shocked if it did, but my money would bet the other way.

Nobody reads the platform. The MSM and the people they quote and interview are the source of truth in this country. I stand corrected too not a Russian Spy but an agent of Russia who apparently was “made” in a golden shower ceremony.

[Horace]

I bet it's not part of the official platform that every right thinking and right feeling American should believe that white cops enjoy murdering innocent black people, but never the less right thinking and right feeling people world wide believe that, because that political party wants them to believe it.

[Axtremus]

The Republican Party’s 2016 Platform that the Republican Party plans to keep going into the 2020 RNC:
https://prod-cdn-static.gop.com/media/documents/DRAFT_12_FINAL[1]-ben_1468872234.pdf

Some interesting planks from the Republican Party’s 2016 Platform:

• The huge increase in the national debt demanded by and incurred during the current Administration has placed a significant burden on future generations.
• The current Administration’s refusal to work with Republicans took our national debt from $10 trillion to nearly $19 trillion today. Left unchecked, it will hit $30 trillion by 2026.
• The current Administration has exceeded its constitutional authority, brazenly and flagrantly violated the separation of powers, sought to divide America into groups and turn citizen against citizen.
• Our most urgent task as a Party is to restore the American people’s faith in their government by electing a president who will enforce duly enacted laws, honor constitutional limits on executive authority, and return credibility to the Oval Office.
• The next president must restore the public’s trust in law enforcement and civil order by first adhering to the rule of law himself.
• The current Administration has abandoned America’s friends and rewarded its enemies.
• The President has refused to defend or enforce laws he does not like, used executive orders to enact national policies in areas constitutionally reserved solely to Congress, made unconstitutional ‘recess’ appointments to Senate-confirmed positions, directed regulatory agencies to overstep their statutory authority, and failed to consult Congress regarding military action overseas.
• Pakistanis, Afghans, and Americans have a common interest in ridding the region of the Taliban and securing Pakistan’s nuclear arsenal. That goal has been undermined by the current Administration’s feckless treatment of troop commitments and blatant disregard of advice from commanders on the ground, particularly with regard to Afghanistan.
• The current President and his allies on Capitol Hill have used those agencies as a superlegislature, disregarding the separation of powers, to declare as law what they could not push through the Congress.
• The survival of the internet as we know it is at risk. Its gravest peril originates in the White House, the current occupant of which has launched a campaign, both at home and internationally, to subjugate it to agents of government.
• We will meet the return of Russian belligerence with the same resolve that led to the collapse of the Soviet Union. We will not accept any territorial change in Eastern Europe imposed by force, in Ukraine, Georgia, or elsewhere, and will use all appropriate constitutional measures to bring to justice the practitioners of aggression and assassination.
• A Republican president will never embrace a Marxist dictator, in Venezuela or anywhere else.

So in 2020, the Republican Party will adopt a Platform that has so many grievances and misgivings against “the current administration.” @Loki can probably find solace that Trump himself will probably never read the Republican Party’s Platform.

[Rainman]

Hey Ax, Trump kinda looks Russian, don't ya think?
I don't think there is any doubt about it.
Comrade.
Comrade Trump.
It obviously has a truthful ring to it.

[Axtremus]

@Rainman said in Trump threatens to move convention if NC restricts capacity:

Hey Ax, Trump kinda looks Russian, don't ya think?

Not at all. Trump looks more German than Russian, IMO.

[89th]

Looks like it’ll be in Jacksonville Florida.

[Jolly]

@Rainman said in Trump threatens to move convention if NC restricts capacity:

Hey Ax, Trump kinda looks Russian, don't ya think?
I don't think there is any doubt about it.
Comrade.
Comrade Trump.
It obviously has a truthful ring to it.

He's not but that gal he's married to has got a Rooskie look about her...

[Axtremus]

People who wants to attend Trump!s rally as to agree to the following when registering:

“By clicking register below, you are acknowledging that an inherent risk of exposure to COVID-19 exists in any public place where people are present. By attending the Rally, you and any guests voluntarily assume all risks related to exposure to COVID-19 and agree not to hold Donald J. Trump for President, Inc.; BOK Center; ASM Global; or any of their affiliates, directors, officers, employees, agents, contractors, or volunteers liable for any illness or injury.”

I look forward to seeing how that works out.

[Rainman]

@Axtremus said in Trump threatens to move convention if NC restricts capacity:

I look forward to seeing how that works out.

Me too, bud. See ya there!!

[taiwan_girl]

@Axtremus said in Trump threatens to move convention if NC restricts capacity:

People who wants to attend Trump!s rally as to agree to the following when registering:

“By clicking register below, you are acknowledging that an inherent risk of exposure to COVID-19 exists in any public place where people are present. By attending the Rally, you and any guests voluntarily assume all risks related to exposure to COVID-19 and agree not to hold Donald J. Trump for President, Inc.; BOK Center; ASM Global; or any of their affiliates, directors, officers, employees, agents, contractors, or volunteers liable for any illness or injury.”

I look forward to seeing how that works out.

In the US, is this enough to remove liability? I know at sporting events, they have something written on the ticket that the team is not responsible for things that happen to you, but if someone gets hit by a ball, the team still seems to get sued.

[Axtremus]

@Axtremus said in Trump threatens to move convention if NC restricts capacity:

The Republican Party’s 2016 Platform that the Republican Party plans to keep going into the 2020 RNC:
https://prod-cdn-static.gop.com/media/documents/DRAFT_12_FINAL[1]-ben_1468872234.pdf

Some interesting planks from the Republican Party’s 2016 Platform:

• The huge increase in the national debt demanded by and incurred during the current Administration has placed a significant burden on future generations.
• The current Administration’s refusal to work with Republicans took our national debt from $10 trillion to nearly $19 trillion today. Left unchecked, it will hit $30 trillion by 2026.
• The current Administration has exceeded its constitutional authority, brazenly and flagrantly violated the separation of powers, sought to divide America into groups and turn citizen against citizen.
• Our most urgent task as a Party is to restore the American people’s faith in their government by electing a president who will enforce duly enacted laws, honor constitutional limits on executive authority, and return credibility to the Oval Office.
• The next president must restore the public’s trust in law enforcement and civil order by first adhering to the rule of law himself.
• The current Administration has abandoned America’s friends and rewarded its enemies.
• The President has refused to defend or enforce laws he does not like, used executive orders to enact national policies in areas constitutionally reserved solely to Congress, made unconstitutional ‘recess’ appointments to Senate-confirmed positions, directed regulatory agencies to overstep their statutory authority, and failed to consult Congress regarding military action overseas.
• Pakistanis, Afghans, and Americans have a common interest in ridding the region of the Taliban and securing Pakistan’s nuclear arsenal. That goal has been undermined by the current Administration’s feckless treatment of troop commitments and blatant disregard of advice from commanders on the ground, particularly with regard to Afghanistan.
• The current President and his allies on Capitol Hill have used those agencies as a superlegislature, disregarding the separation of powers, to declare as law what they could not push through the Congress.
• The survival of the internet as we know it is at risk. Its gravest peril originates in the White House, the current occupant of which has launched a campaign, both at home and internationally, to subjugate it to agents of government.
• We will meet the return of Russian belligerence with the same resolve that led to the collapse of the Soviet Union. We will not accept any territorial change in Eastern Europe imposed by force, in Ukraine, Georgia, or elsewhere, and will use all appropriate constitutional measures to bring to justice the practitioners of aggression and assassination.
• A Republican president will never embrace a Marxist dictator, in Venezuela or anywhere else.

So in 2020, the Republican Party will adopt a Platform that has so many grievances and misgivings against “the current administration.” @Loki can probably find solace that Trump himself will probably never read the Republican Party’s Platform.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-calls-for-a-new-and-updated-gop-platform-after-party-moves-to-keep-its-2016-document/2020/06/12/f5d033cc-acb4-11ea-9063-e69bd6520940_story.html

Now Trump says he wants the Republican Party to adopt a new and updated Platform.

Of course, if @Loki were right about nobody reading the Platform, then all this is just Trump increasing the likelihood of GOP delegates contracting and spreading the SARS-CoV-2 virus by forcing them to travel to debate and vote for a Platform that no one will read.

What do you think about that Platform now, @Loki ?

[taiwan_girl]

@Axtremus I think @Loki is right.

Very few people will vote (or change their vote) based on what is in the platform. One week after the convention has gone, even the most dedicated party people probably do not know much about the platform.

If that was the case, I would start a new party with the following platform

• there will be no crime
• everybody will love one another
• everyone who wants to work, will have a job they love and make a lot of money doing it
• the sun will always shine, and rain will only come when people request it
• there will be no poverty
• our country will be loved by all other countries
• etc.

[Catseye3]

TAIWAN-GIRL FOR PRESIDENT!!!!

[taiwan_girl]

@Catseye3 said in Trump threatens to move convention if NC restricts capacity:

TAIWAN-GIRL FOR PRESIDENT!!!!

Thank you but I must decline! I was not born in the US.

[George K]

@taiwan_girl said in Trump threatens to move convention if NC restricts capacity:

@Catseye3 said in Trump threatens to move convention if NC restricts capacity:

TAIWAN-GIRL FOR PRESIDENT!!!!

Thank you but I must decline! I was not born in the US.

And you're too smart to even consider the job.

[jon-nyc]

Adlai Stephenson once said ‘Running for president is like being a football coach. You have to be smart enough to know the game but dumb enough to think it’s important.”