US has a shitload of cases
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wrote on 16 May 2020, 17:36 last edited by xenon
No, that’s not what he’s saying. He says we have the best tests. But the reason we have so many cases is because we’re testing so much more than anyone else.
Read the last paragraph.
I also have great news on testing. You know, we’ve been doing testing at a level that nobody has ever done it before. We cannot get any, and we cannot get the press to write about it or write fairly about it. And nobody has ever done. We’ve done double what anyone else — if you add up all of the countries in the world, we’ve done more testing than all of the countries in the world added up together. Nobody has ever done anything like that. And we have the best tests.
We have tests that, two months ago, didn’t even exist. Our great companies came up with things — Abbott Laboratories and so many others. They came up with things that — Roche — they came up with things that nobody even believes. So we have the best testing in the world. It could be that testing is, frankly, overrated. Maybe it is overrated. But whatever they start yelling, “We want more. We want more.” You know, they always say, “We want more. We want more” — because they don’t want to give you credit. Then we do more and they say, “We want more.”
But we have the greatest testing in the world. But what we want is we want to get rid of this thing. That’s what we want. We want to get rid of this thing.
This afternoon, I also have great news on that testing. America has now conducted its 10 millionth test. That’s as of yesterday afternoon. Ten million tests we gave. Ten million. And CVS has just committed to establish up to 1,000 new coronavirus testing sites by the end of this month. And the 10 millionth will go up very, very rapidly.
And don’t forget: We have more cases than anybody in the world. But why? Because we do more testing. When you test, you have a case. When you test, you find something is wrong with people. If we didn’t do any testing, we would have very few cases. They don’t want to write that. It’s common sense. So we test much more many, many times..
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@Copper said in US has a shitload of cases:
@jon-nyc said in US has a shitload of cases:
sigh.
No kidding
He took that quote completely out of context
Why?
Was he trying to trick us into thinking Mr. Trump thinks tests cause covid? Nobody is that stupid, nobody.
I assume he was just joking.
Haha
No that’s stupid. Tests are not overrated. We’re nowhere near the top of the list on per capita testing. And our cases count is not inflated because of too much testing.
Testing is not the problem - as Trump seems to believe.
The amount of stupid people are letting slide with this guy is astounding.
wrote on 16 May 2020, 17:38 last edited by Copper@xenon said in US has a shitload of cases:
@Copper said in US has a shitload of cases:
@jon-nyc said in US has a shitload of cases:
sigh.
No kidding
He took that quote completely out of context
Why?
Was he trying to trick us into thinking Mr. Trump thinks tests cause covid? Nobody is that stupid, nobody.
I assume he was just joking.
Haha
No that’s stupid. Tests are not overrated. We’re nowhere near the top of the list on per capita testing. And our cases count is not inflated because of too much testing.
Testing is not the problem - as Trump seems to believe.
The amount of stupid people are letting slide with this guy is astounding.
But nowhere near as astounding as the way you try to twist what he said into something completely unrelated to what he meant.
This problem of misunderstanding what he said is becoming a habit.
And why bother? Are you trying to fool someone?
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wrote on 16 May 2020, 17:38 last edited by xenon
Read it - I just linked the transcript in its full context. I linked the video too.
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No, that’s not what he’s saying. He says we have the best tests. But the reason we have so many cases is because we’re testing so much more than anyone else.
Read the last paragraph.
I also have great news on testing. You know, we’ve been doing testing at a level that nobody has ever done it before. We cannot get any, and we cannot get the press to write about it or write fairly about it. And nobody has ever done. We’ve done double what anyone else — if you add up all of the countries in the world, we’ve done more testing than all of the countries in the world added up together. Nobody has ever done anything like that. And we have the best tests.
We have tests that, two months ago, didn’t even exist. Our great companies came up with things — Abbott Laboratories and so many others. They came up with things that — Roche — they came up with things that nobody even believes. So we have the best testing in the world. It could be that testing is, frankly, overrated. Maybe it is overrated. But whatever they start yelling, “We want more. We want more.” You know, they always say, “We want more. We want more” — because they don’t want to give you credit. Then we do more and they say, “We want more.”
But we have the greatest testing in the world. But what we want is we want to get rid of this thing. That’s what we want. We want to get rid of this thing.
This afternoon, I also have great news on that testing. America has now conducted its 10 millionth test. That’s as of yesterday afternoon. Ten million tests we gave. Ten million. And CVS has just committed to establish up to 1,000 new coronavirus testing sites by the end of this month. And the 10 millionth will go up very, very rapidly.
And don’t forget: We have more cases than anybody in the world. But why? Because we do more testing. When you test, you have a case. When you test, you find something is wrong with people. If we didn’t do any testing, we would have very few cases. They don’t want to write that. It’s common sense. So we test much more many, many times..
wrote on 16 May 2020, 17:41 last edited by@xenon said in US has a shitload of cases:
No, that’s not what he’s saying. He says we have the best tests. But the reason we have so many cases is because we’re testing so much more than anyone else.
Read the last paragraph.
I also have great news on testing. You know, we’ve been doing testing at a level that nobody has ever done it before. We cannot get any, and we cannot get the press to write about it or write fairly about it. And nobody has ever done. We’ve done double what anyone else — if you add up all of the countries in the world, we’ve done more testing than all of the countries in the world added up together. Nobody has ever done anything like that. And we have the best tests.
We have tests that, two months ago, didn’t even exist. Our great companies came up with things — Abbott Laboratories and so many others. They came up with things that — Roche — they came up with things that nobody even believes. So we have the best testing in the world. It could be that testing is, frankly, overrated. Maybe it is overrated. But whatever they start yelling, “We want more. We want more.” You know, they always say, “We want more. We want more” — because they don’t want to give you credit. Then we do more and they say, “We want more.”
But we have the greatest testing in the world. But what we want is we want to get rid of this thing. That’s what we want. We want to get rid of this thing.
This afternoon, I also have great news on that testing. America has now conducted its 10 millionth test. That’s as of yesterday afternoon. Ten million tests we gave. Ten million. And CVS has just committed to establish up to 1,000 new coronavirus testing sites by the end of this month. And the 10 millionth will go up very, very rapidly.
And don’t forget: We have more cases than anybody in the world. But why? Because we do more testing. When you test, you have a case. When you test, you find something is wrong with people. If we didn’t do any testing, we would have very few cases. They don’t want to write that. It’s common sense. So we test much more many, many times..
So he's saying that our numbers are higher because we test more. I don't know if it's true we're testing more, but he's not saying tests make you sick, he's saying tests make the reported numbers of cases go higher. Which is of course true.
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wrote on 16 May 2020, 17:50 last edited by
If this data is accurate, we’re #39 today on per capita testing.
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wrote on 16 May 2020, 19:14 last edited by
Based on my observations of your posts over the past few years xenon, I've finally figured out how you end up so wrong much of the time. You do 3 things over and over again, just like clockwork. First, you start from the premise that Trump is a moron, and you have the same goal with every post - make it show Trump as a moron, no matter how far you have to twist things to do it. The second thing you do like clockwork is to argue your case like you have been following the facts intently and have a deep understanding of the issue. The third thing you do, only when your argument has been so totally destroyed that even you can't spin it any further, is to admit that you haven't really been following the details very close, just a little over the last day or so, so that's why you got it wrong.
If you're going to argue a point, know what you're talking about first.
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wrote on 16 May 2020, 19:21 last edited by
Larry - I’ve noticed your MO on debating as well:
Step 1 (optional): laugh incredulously (usually bwahaha)
Step 2: declare victory
Step 3: attack the other person
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wrote on 16 May 2020, 19:30 last edited by
I only do that when the other person is being a nutjob.
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@jon-nyc said in US has a shitload of cases:
890,524, 2.5% increase. Deaths 51,017 up up 4.7%.
963,168 4% increase. Deaths 54,530 up 3.4%.
1,010,717. 2.4% increase. Deaths 58,365 up 3.5%
1,036,652 2.6% increase. Deaths 60,475 up 3.6%
1,067,061 2.9% increase. Deaths 62,870 up 4.0%
1,098,565, up 3.0%. Deaths 64,577 up 2.7%.
1,154,621, up 2.5%. Deaths 67,451 up 2.2%.
1,177,784 up 2.0%. Deaths 68,442 up 1.5%.
1,201,337 up 2.0%. Deaths 70,847 up 3.5%
1252,911 up 2.1%. Deaths 75,447 up 3.2%
1,281,246 up 2.3% Deaths 76,901 up 1.9%
1,305,544 up 1.9%. Deaths 78,618 up 2.2%
1,345,307 up up 1.5%. Deaths 80,239 up 1%
1,366,350 up 1.6%. Deaths 82,105 up 2.3%
1,413,012 up 1.7%. Deaths 85,581 up 2.1%1,439,434 up 1.9%. Deaths 87,204 up 1.9%.
wrote on 16 May 2020, 22:26 last edited by@jon-nyc said in US has a shitload of cases:
963,168 4% increase. Deaths 54,530 up 3.4%.
1,010,717. 2.4% increase. Deaths 58,365 up 3.5%
1,036,652 2.6% increase. Deaths 60,475 up 3.6%
1,067,061 2.9% increase. Deaths 62,870 up 4.0%
1,098,565, up 3.0%. Deaths 64,577 up 2.7%.
1,154,621, up 2.5%. Deaths 67,451 up 2.2%.
1,177,784 up 2.0%. Deaths 68,442 up 1.5%.
1,201,337 up 2.0%. Deaths 70,847 up 3.5%
1252,911 up 2.1%. Deaths 75,447 up 3.2%
1,281,246 up 2.3% Deaths 76,901 up 1.9%
1,305,544 up 1.9%. Deaths 78,618 up 2.2%
1,345,307 up up 1.5%. Deaths 80,239 up 1%
1,366,350 up 1.6%. Deaths 82,105 up 2.3%
1,413,012 up 1.7%. Deaths 85,581 up 2.1%
1,439,434 up 1.9%. Deaths 87,204 up 1.9%.1,464,057 up up 1.7%. Deaths 88,473 up 1.5%
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wrote on 17 May 2020, 02:43 last edited by
89th, if that's really the best you can do at using your brain, I actually feel sorry for you.
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wrote on 17 May 2020, 02:46 last edited by
Ok, Karen.
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wrote on 17 May 2020, 02:47 last edited by
How old are you, 12?
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wrote on 17 May 2020, 03:16 last edited by
Ok, boomer.
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@jon-nyc said in US has a shitload of cases:
963,168 4% increase. Deaths 54,530 up 3.4%.
1,010,717. 2.4% increase. Deaths 58,365 up 3.5%
1,036,652 2.6% increase. Deaths 60,475 up 3.6%
1,067,061 2.9% increase. Deaths 62,870 up 4.0%
1,098,565, up 3.0%. Deaths 64,577 up 2.7%.
1,154,621, up 2.5%. Deaths 67,451 up 2.2%.
1,177,784 up 2.0%. Deaths 68,442 up 1.5%.
1,201,337 up 2.0%. Deaths 70,847 up 3.5%
1252,911 up 2.1%. Deaths 75,447 up 3.2%
1,281,246 up 2.3% Deaths 76,901 up 1.9%
1,305,544 up 1.9%. Deaths 78,618 up 2.2%
1,345,307 up up 1.5%. Deaths 80,239 up 1%
1,366,350 up 1.6%. Deaths 82,105 up 2.3%
1,413,012 up 1.7%. Deaths 85,581 up 2.1%
1,439,434 up 1.9%. Deaths 87,204 up 1.9%.1,464,057 up up 1.7%. Deaths 88,473 up 1.5%
wrote on 17 May 2020, 22:56 last edited by@jon-nyc said in US has a shitload of cases:
1,154,621, up 2.5%. Deaths 67,451 up 2.2%.
1,177,784 up 2.0%. Deaths 68,442 up 1.5%.
1,201,337 up 2.0%. Deaths 70,847 up 3.5%
1252,911 up 2.1%. Deaths 75,447 up 3.2%
1,281,246 up 2.3% Deaths 76,901 up 1.9%
1,305,544 up 1.9%. Deaths 78,618 up 2.2%
1,345,307 up up 1.5%. Deaths 80,239 up 1%
1,366,350 up 1.6%. Deaths 82,105 up 2.3%
1,413,012 up 1.7%. Deaths 85,581 up 2.1%
1,439,434 up 1.9%. Deaths 87,204 up 1.9%.
1,464,057 up up 1.7%. Deaths 88,473 up 1.5%1,486,375 up 22,318 or 1.5%. Deaths 89,549 up 1076 or 1.2%.
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wrote on 17 May 2020, 23:13 last edited by
Nice little trend starting to show. Hopefully the slowing continues.
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@Copper said in US has a shitload of cases:
@jon-nyc said in US has a shitload of cases:
sigh.
No kidding
He took that quote completely out of context
Why?
Was he trying to trick us into thinking Mr. Trump thinks tests cause covid? Nobody is that stupid, nobody.
I assume he was just joking.
Haha
No that’s stupid. Tests are not overrated. We’re nowhere near the top of the list on per capita testing. And our cases count is not inflated because of too much testing.
Testing is not the problem - as Trump seems to believe.
The amount of stupid people are letting slide with this guy is astounding.
wrote on 18 May 2020, 12:28 last edited by@xenon said in US has a shitload of cases:
@Copper said in US has a shitload of cases:
@jon-nyc said in US has a shitload of cases:
sigh.
No kidding
He took that quote completely out of context
Why?
Was he trying to trick us into thinking Mr. Trump thinks tests cause covid? Nobody is that stupid, nobody.
I assume he was just joking.
Haha
No that’s stupid. Tests are not overrated. We’re nowhere near the top of the list on per capita testing. And our cases count is not inflated because of too much testing.
Testing is not the problem - as Trump seems to believe.
The amount of stupid people are letting slide with this guy is astounding.
Some tests are overrated. We're finding out the Abbott test is wrong maybe as much as 40% of the time.
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88,000 Americans have died so far, @Larry, but I'm sure glad Trump "took action in December to deal with the virus". Maybe YOU have TDS...Trump Defense Syndrome.
wrote on 18 May 2020, 12:32 last edited by@89th said in US has a shitload of cases:
88,000 Americans have died so far, @Larry, but I'm sure glad Trump "took action in December to deal with the virus". Maybe YOU have TDS...Trump Defense Syndrome.
Probably could have lowered the death rate, if we had declared martial law and shot anybody venturing out into the streets.
Then Trump would be a hero in your eyes?
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@xenon said in US has a shitload of cases:
@Copper said in US has a shitload of cases:
@jon-nyc said in US has a shitload of cases:
sigh.
No kidding
He took that quote completely out of context
Why?
Was he trying to trick us into thinking Mr. Trump thinks tests cause covid? Nobody is that stupid, nobody.
I assume he was just joking.
Haha
No that’s stupid. Tests are not overrated. We’re nowhere near the top of the list on per capita testing. And our cases count is not inflated because of too much testing.
Testing is not the problem - as Trump seems to believe.
The amount of stupid people are letting slide with this guy is astounding.
Some tests are overrated. We're finding out the Abbott test is wrong maybe as much as 40% of the time.
wrote on 18 May 2020, 12:46 last edited by Mik@Jolly said in US has a shitload of cases:
@xenon said in US has a shitload of cases:
@Copper said in US has a shitload of cases:
@jon-nyc said in US has a shitload of cases:
sigh.
No kidding
He took that quote completely out of context
Why?
Was he trying to trick us into thinking Mr. Trump thinks tests cause covid? Nobody is that stupid, nobody.
I assume he was just joking.
Haha
No that’s stupid. Tests are not overrated. We’re nowhere near the top of the list on per capita testing. And our cases count is not inflated because of too much testing.
Testing is not the problem - as Trump seems to believe.
The amount of stupid people are letting slide with this guy is astounding.
Some tests are overrated. We're finding out the Abbott test is wrong maybe as much as 40% of the time.
Yep. This is the inherent risk of hurrying diagnostics and medicines. Which is not to say we should not have done it, but essentially you are testing the test in real time.
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@Jolly said in US has a shitload of cases:
@xenon said in US has a shitload of cases:
@Copper said in US has a shitload of cases:
@jon-nyc said in US has a shitload of cases:
sigh.
No kidding
He took that quote completely out of context
Why?
Was he trying to trick us into thinking Mr. Trump thinks tests cause covid? Nobody is that stupid, nobody.
I assume he was just joking.
Haha
No that’s stupid. Tests are not overrated. We’re nowhere near the top of the list on per capita testing. And our cases count is not inflated because of too much testing.
Testing is not the problem - as Trump seems to believe.
The amount of stupid people are letting slide with this guy is astounding.
Some tests are overrated. We're finding out the Abbott test is wrong maybe as much as 40% of the time.
Yep. This is the inherent risk of hurrying diagnostics and medicines. Which is not to say we should not have done it, but essentially you are testing the test in real time.
wrote on 18 May 2020, 13:17 last edited by@Mik said in US has a shitload of cases:
@Jolly said in US has a shitload of cases:
@xenon said in US has a shitload of cases:
@Copper said in US has a shitload of cases:
@jon-nyc said in US has a shitload of cases:
sigh.
No kidding
He took that quote completely out of context
Why?
Was he trying to trick us into thinking Mr. Trump thinks tests cause covid? Nobody is that stupid, nobody.
I assume he was just joking.
Haha
No that’s stupid. Tests are not overrated. We’re nowhere near the top of the list on per capita testing. And our cases count is not inflated because of too much testing.
Testing is not the problem - as Trump seems to believe.
The amount of stupid people are letting slide with this guy is astounding.
Some tests are overrated. We're finding out the Abbott test is wrong maybe as much as 40% of the time.
Yep. This is the inherent risk of hurrying diagnostics and medicines. Which is not to say we should not have done it, but essentially you are testing the test in real time.
At least it's false negatives.