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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    jon-nyc
    wrote on last edited by
    #82

    sigh.

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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    • LarryL Offline
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      Larry
      wrote on last edited by
      #83

      Thank you xenon, for proving that none - absolutely NONE - of the things you say regarding Trump and none of your arguments defending your views about Trump are grounded in facts or reality, but are instead nothing more than the rantings of a TDS patient. Some of us already knew this, but for any who hadn't figured that out yet you've just cleared things up bicely.

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        #84

        You know, Larry, it is not particularly convincing if every single time anyone criticizes Trump for whatever reason, your response follows the template "... <ad hominem> ...TDS ... <calling some opinion a 'fact'> ...<ad hominem> ...".

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          Larry
          wrote on last edited by
          #85

          You know Klaus, I might take some of the criticism seriously if I saw any that was based on reality instead of just simple TDS.

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            sigh.

            CopperC Offline
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            Copper
            wrote on last edited by
            #86

            @jon-nyc said in US has a shitload of cases:

            sigh.

            No kidding

            He took that quote completely out of context

            Why?

            Was he trying to trick us into thinking Mr. Trump thinks tests cause covid? Nobody is that stupid, nobody.

            I assume he was just joking.

            Haha

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            • CopperC Copper

              @jon-nyc said in US has a shitload of cases:

              sigh.

              No kidding

              He took that quote completely out of context

              Why?

              Was he trying to trick us into thinking Mr. Trump thinks tests cause covid? Nobody is that stupid, nobody.

              I assume he was just joking.

              Haha

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              xenon
              wrote on last edited by xenon
              #87

              @Copper said in US has a shitload of cases:

              @jon-nyc said in US has a shitload of cases:

              sigh.

              No kidding

              He took that quote completely out of context

              Why?

              Was he trying to trick us into thinking Mr. Trump thinks tests cause covid? Nobody is that stupid, nobody.

              I assume he was just joking.

              Haha

              No that’s stupid. Tests are not overrated. We’re nowhere near the top of the list on per capita testing. And our cases count is not inflated because of too much testing.

              Testing is not the problem - as Trump seems to believe.

              The amount of stupid people are letting slide with this guy is astounding.

              CopperC JollyJ 2 Replies Last reply
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                Horace
                wrote on last edited by
                #88

                My understanding is that when Trump said tests were overrated, he was talking about their accuracy. Though his words got a little muddled. The accuracy of the tests is indeed something that needs to be more widely understood.

                Education is extremely important.

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                  xenon
                  wrote on last edited by xenon
                  #89

                  No, that’s not what he’s saying. He says we have the best tests. But the reason we have so many cases is because we’re testing so much more than anyone else.

                  Read the last paragraph.

                  I also have great news on testing. You know, we’ve been doing testing at a level that nobody has ever done it before. We cannot get any, and we cannot get the press to write about it or write fairly about it. And nobody has ever done. We’ve done double what anyone else — if you add up all of the countries in the world, we’ve done more testing than all of the countries in the world added up together. Nobody has ever done anything like that. And we have the best tests.

                  We have tests that, two months ago, didn’t even exist. Our great companies came up with things — Abbott Laboratories and so many others. They came up with things that — Roche — they came up with things that nobody even believes. So we have the best testing in the world. It could be that testing is, frankly, overrated. Maybe it is overrated. But whatever they start yelling, “We want more. We want more.” You know, they always say, “We want more. We want more” — because they don’t want to give you credit. Then we do more and they say, “We want more.”

                  But we have the greatest testing in the world. But what we want is we want to get rid of this thing. That’s what we want. We want to get rid of this thing.

                  This afternoon, I also have great news on that testing. America has now conducted its 10 millionth test. That’s as of yesterday afternoon. Ten million tests we gave. Ten million. And CVS has just committed to establish up to 1,000 new coronavirus testing sites by the end of this month. And the 10 millionth will go up very, very rapidly.

                  And don’t forget: We have more cases than anybody in the world. But why? Because we do more testing. When you test, you have a case. When you test, you find something is wrong with people. If we didn’t do any testing, we would have very few cases. They don’t want to write that. It’s common sense. So we test much more many, many times..

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                  • X xenon

                    @Copper said in US has a shitload of cases:

                    @jon-nyc said in US has a shitload of cases:

                    sigh.

                    No kidding

                    He took that quote completely out of context

                    Why?

                    Was he trying to trick us into thinking Mr. Trump thinks tests cause covid? Nobody is that stupid, nobody.

                    I assume he was just joking.

                    Haha

                    No that’s stupid. Tests are not overrated. We’re nowhere near the top of the list on per capita testing. And our cases count is not inflated because of too much testing.

                    Testing is not the problem - as Trump seems to believe.

                    The amount of stupid people are letting slide with this guy is astounding.

                    CopperC Offline
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                    Copper
                    wrote on last edited by Copper
                    #90

                    @xenon said in US has a shitload of cases:

                    @Copper said in US has a shitload of cases:

                    @jon-nyc said in US has a shitload of cases:

                    sigh.

                    No kidding

                    He took that quote completely out of context

                    Why?

                    Was he trying to trick us into thinking Mr. Trump thinks tests cause covid? Nobody is that stupid, nobody.

                    I assume he was just joking.

                    Haha

                    No that’s stupid. Tests are not overrated. We’re nowhere near the top of the list on per capita testing. And our cases count is not inflated because of too much testing.

                    Testing is not the problem - as Trump seems to believe.

                    The amount of stupid people are letting slide with this guy is astounding.

                    But nowhere near as astounding as the way you try to twist what he said into something completely unrelated to what he meant.

                    This problem of misunderstanding what he said is becoming a habit.

                    And why bother? Are you trying to fool someone?

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                      xenon
                      wrote on last edited by xenon
                      #91

                      Read it - I just linked the transcript in its full context. I linked the video too.

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                      • X xenon

                        No, that’s not what he’s saying. He says we have the best tests. But the reason we have so many cases is because we’re testing so much more than anyone else.

                        Read the last paragraph.

                        I also have great news on testing. You know, we’ve been doing testing at a level that nobody has ever done it before. We cannot get any, and we cannot get the press to write about it or write fairly about it. And nobody has ever done. We’ve done double what anyone else — if you add up all of the countries in the world, we’ve done more testing than all of the countries in the world added up together. Nobody has ever done anything like that. And we have the best tests.

                        We have tests that, two months ago, didn’t even exist. Our great companies came up with things — Abbott Laboratories and so many others. They came up with things that — Roche — they came up with things that nobody even believes. So we have the best testing in the world. It could be that testing is, frankly, overrated. Maybe it is overrated. But whatever they start yelling, “We want more. We want more.” You know, they always say, “We want more. We want more” — because they don’t want to give you credit. Then we do more and they say, “We want more.”

                        But we have the greatest testing in the world. But what we want is we want to get rid of this thing. That’s what we want. We want to get rid of this thing.

                        This afternoon, I also have great news on that testing. America has now conducted its 10 millionth test. That’s as of yesterday afternoon. Ten million tests we gave. Ten million. And CVS has just committed to establish up to 1,000 new coronavirus testing sites by the end of this month. And the 10 millionth will go up very, very rapidly.

                        And don’t forget: We have more cases than anybody in the world. But why? Because we do more testing. When you test, you have a case. When you test, you find something is wrong with people. If we didn’t do any testing, we would have very few cases. They don’t want to write that. It’s common sense. So we test much more many, many times..

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                        Horace
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #92

                        @xenon said in US has a shitload of cases:

                        No, that’s not what he’s saying. He says we have the best tests. But the reason we have so many cases is because we’re testing so much more than anyone else.

                        Read the last paragraph.

                        I also have great news on testing. You know, we’ve been doing testing at a level that nobody has ever done it before. We cannot get any, and we cannot get the press to write about it or write fairly about it. And nobody has ever done. We’ve done double what anyone else — if you add up all of the countries in the world, we’ve done more testing than all of the countries in the world added up together. Nobody has ever done anything like that. And we have the best tests.

                        We have tests that, two months ago, didn’t even exist. Our great companies came up with things — Abbott Laboratories and so many others. They came up with things that — Roche — they came up with things that nobody even believes. So we have the best testing in the world. It could be that testing is, frankly, overrated. Maybe it is overrated. But whatever they start yelling, “We want more. We want more.” You know, they always say, “We want more. We want more” — because they don’t want to give you credit. Then we do more and they say, “We want more.”

                        But we have the greatest testing in the world. But what we want is we want to get rid of this thing. That’s what we want. We want to get rid of this thing.

                        This afternoon, I also have great news on that testing. America has now conducted its 10 millionth test. That’s as of yesterday afternoon. Ten million tests we gave. Ten million. And CVS has just committed to establish up to 1,000 new coronavirus testing sites by the end of this month. And the 10 millionth will go up very, very rapidly.

                        And don’t forget: We have more cases than anybody in the world. But why? Because we do more testing. When you test, you have a case. When you test, you find something is wrong with people. If we didn’t do any testing, we would have very few cases. They don’t want to write that. It’s common sense. So we test much more many, many times..

                        So he's saying that our numbers are higher because we test more. I don't know if it's true we're testing more, but he's not saying tests make you sick, he's saying tests make the reported numbers of cases go higher. Which is of course true.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                          xenon
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #93

                          If this data is accurate, we’re #39 today on per capita testing.

                          https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

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                            Larry
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                            #94

                            Based on my observations of your posts over the past few years xenon, I've finally figured out how you end up so wrong much of the time. You do 3 things over and over again, just like clockwork. First, you start from the premise that Trump is a moron, and you have the same goal with every post - make it show Trump as a moron, no matter how far you have to twist things to do it. The second thing you do like clockwork is to argue your case like you have been following the facts intently and have a deep understanding of the issue. The third thing you do, only when your argument has been so totally destroyed that even you can't spin it any further, is to admit that you haven't really been following the details very close, just a little over the last day or so, so that's why you got it wrong.

                            If you're going to argue a point, know what you're talking about first.

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                              xenon
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #95

                              Larry - I’ve noticed your MO on debating as well:

                              Step 1 (optional): laugh incredulously (usually bwahaha)

                              Step 2: declare victory

                              Step 3: attack the other person

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                                Larry
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                                #96

                                I only do that when the other person is being a nutjob.

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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                  @jon-nyc said in US has a shitload of cases:

                                  890,524, 2.5% increase. Deaths 51,017 up up 4.7%.
                                  963,168 4% increase. Deaths 54,530 up 3.4%.
                                  1,010,717. 2.4% increase. Deaths 58,365 up 3.5%
                                  1,036,652 2.6% increase. Deaths 60,475 up 3.6%
                                  1,067,061 2.9% increase. Deaths 62,870 up 4.0%
                                  1,098,565, up 3.0%. Deaths 64,577 up 2.7%.
                                  1,154,621, up 2.5%. Deaths 67,451 up 2.2%.
                                  1,177,784 up 2.0%. Deaths 68,442 up 1.5%.
                                  1,201,337 up 2.0%. Deaths 70,847 up 3.5%
                                  1252,911 up 2.1%. Deaths 75,447 up 3.2%
                                  1,281,246 up 2.3% Deaths 76,901 up 1.9%
                                  1,305,544 up 1.9%. Deaths 78,618 up 2.2%
                                  1,345,307 up up 1.5%. Deaths 80,239 up 1%
                                  1,366,350 up 1.6%. Deaths 82,105 up 2.3%
                                  1,413,012 up 1.7%. Deaths 85,581 up 2.1%

                                  1,439,434 up 1.9%. Deaths 87,204 up 1.9%.

                                  jon-nycJ Online
                                  jon-nycJ Online
                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #97

                                  @jon-nyc said in US has a shitload of cases:

                                  963,168 4% increase. Deaths 54,530 up 3.4%.
                                  1,010,717. 2.4% increase. Deaths 58,365 up 3.5%
                                  1,036,652 2.6% increase. Deaths 60,475 up 3.6%
                                  1,067,061 2.9% increase. Deaths 62,870 up 4.0%
                                  1,098,565, up 3.0%. Deaths 64,577 up 2.7%.
                                  1,154,621, up 2.5%. Deaths 67,451 up 2.2%.
                                  1,177,784 up 2.0%. Deaths 68,442 up 1.5%.
                                  1,201,337 up 2.0%. Deaths 70,847 up 3.5%
                                  1252,911 up 2.1%. Deaths 75,447 up 3.2%
                                  1,281,246 up 2.3% Deaths 76,901 up 1.9%
                                  1,305,544 up 1.9%. Deaths 78,618 up 2.2%
                                  1,345,307 up up 1.5%. Deaths 80,239 up 1%
                                  1,366,350 up 1.6%. Deaths 82,105 up 2.3%
                                  1,413,012 up 1.7%. Deaths 85,581 up 2.1%
                                  1,439,434 up 1.9%. Deaths 87,204 up 1.9%.

                                  1,464,057 up up 1.7%. Deaths 88,473 up 1.5%

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

                                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                    89th
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #98

                                    88,000 Americans have died so far, @Larry, but I'm sure glad Trump "took action in December to deal with the virus". Maybe YOU have TDS...Trump Defense Syndrome. 😆

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                                      Larry
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #99

                                      89th, if that's really the best you can do at using your brain, I actually feel sorry for you.

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                                        89th
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                                        #100

                                        Ok, Karen.

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                                          #101

                                          How old are you, 12?

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