US has a shitload of cases

Axtremus · wrote on 23 Apr 2020, 02:17

The slowing rate of growth with regards to infection count ... how much of it is real and how much of it is due to testing capacity not growing fast enough to keep up with the growth in infection count?

jon-nyc · 26 Apr 2020, 21:50

@jon-nyc said in US has a shitload of cases:

454,305 7.3% increase. Deaths 16,267 13% increase.
550,016 6.6% daily increase. Deaths 21,994 10.6% daily increase.
577,307 5% increase. Deaths 23,219 up 5.6%
632,878 4.7% daily increase. Deaths 27,850 9.5% daily increase.
658,263 4% increase. Deaths 32,186 up 15.6%
692,169 5.2% increase. Deaths 32,232 up 0.14% increase.
726,645 5% increase. Deaths 37,938 up 17.7%
755,533 4% increase. Deaths 40,461 up 6.7%
820,104. 4.2% increase. Deaths 44,228 up 4.6%
846,982 3.3% increase. Deaths 46,560 up 5.3%

890,524, 2.5% increase. Deaths 51,017 up up 4.7%.

jon-nyc · 28 Apr 2020, 22:24

@jon-nyc said in US has a shitload of cases:

550,016 6.6% daily increase. Deaths 21,994 10.6% daily increase.
577,307 5% increase. Deaths 23,219 up 5.6%
632,878 4.7% daily increase. Deaths 27,850 9.5% daily increase.
658,263 4% increase. Deaths 32,186 up 15.6%
692,169 5.2% increase. Deaths 32,232 up 0.14% increase.
726,645 5% increase. Deaths 37,938 up 17.7%
755,533 4% increase. Deaths 40,461 up 6.7%
820,104. 4.2% increase. Deaths 44,228 up 4.6%
846,982 3.3% increase. Deaths 46,560 up 5.3%
890,524, 2.5% increase. Deaths 51,017 up up 4.7%.

963,168 4% increase. Deaths 54,530 up 3.4%.

89, I think unfortunately your 1MM by may 1 will come true. That's less than 1% a day.

We'll probably hit it Tuesday if not tomorrow.

89th · wrote on 27 Apr 2020, 00:36

I'd imagine we'll see it all over the media once we cross that number. I still remember when we had less than 2,000 cases and I made the "we'll have a million cases by may" comment to my coworker who was completely shocked by such a claim.

89th · wrote on 28 Apr 2020, 22:05

Passed 1,000,000 today

jon-nyc · 29 Apr 2020, 21:58

Yes we did.

@jon-nyc said in US has a shitload of cases:

632,878 4.7% daily increase. Deaths 27,850 9.5% daily increase.
658,263 4% increase. Deaths 32,186 up 15.6%
692,169 5.2% increase. Deaths 32,232 up 0.14% increase.
726,645 5% increase. Deaths 37,938 up 17.7%
755,533 4% increase. Deaths 40,461 up 6.7%
820,104. 4.2% increase. Deaths 44,228 up 4.6%
846,982 3.3% increase. Deaths 46,560 up 5.3%
890,524, 2.5% increase. Deaths 51,017 up up 4.7%.
963,168 4% increase. Deaths 54,530 up 3.4%.

1,010,717. 2.4% increase. Deaths 58,365 up 3.5%

Aqua Letifer · 29 Apr 2020, 19:00

We lost more people to COVID-19 in the past 3 months than we did soldiers during the entire Vietnam War.

WWII I believe is the next benchmark. I think we have a very decent chance of meeting it.

Horace · 29 Apr 2020, 21:12

I listened to a presentation recently from an academic/scientist who wants everybody to take the virus way more seriously. He used the comparison with war deaths first as an appeal to our humanity, and then took it further to try to appeal to the "but the economy!" folk by assuming that the economic damage of war deaths is the same as the economic damage of virus deaths, on a death for death basis, and projecting economic numbers based on that. This was a very smart guy and I think there is zero chance he doesn't know the difference, economically or otherwise, between a soldier getting cut down in his 20s and an older person with co-morbidities dying of a virus. But he never mentioned that difference.

mark · wrote on 29 Apr 2020, 19:00

@Aqua-Letifer said in US has a shitload of cases:

We lost more people to COVID-19 in the past 3 months than we did soldiers during the entire Vietnam War.

WWII I believe is the next benchmark. I think we have a very decent chance of meeting it.

Klaus · wrote on 29 Apr 2020, 19:04

@Aqua-Letifer said in US has a shitload of cases:

We lost more people to COVID-19 in the past 3 months than we did soldiers during the entire Vietnam War.

WWII I believe is the next benchmark. I think we have a very decent chance of meeting it.

Hm, let's see. We lost 6,000 to COVID-19. Casualties due to WW2: 6,000,000. Factor of 1,000.

jon-nyc · wrote on 29 Apr 2020, 20:46

Yeah but you passed your Vietnam total on March 9th.

Aqua Letifer · 29 Apr 2020, 21:20

@Horace said in US has a shitload of cases:

I think there is zero chance he doesn't know the difference, economically or otherwise, between a soldier getting cut down in his 20s and an older person with co-morbidities dying of a virus. But he never mentioned that difference.

I absolutely refuse to acknowledge the difference. Chalk it up to my nonexistent woke-liberal mentality if you want, I don't give a shit. I categorically deny that a 20-year-old dying is more tragic than a 60-year-old dying. I personally find either scenario equally tragic in very different ways. Believe what you want, but no I do not have to agree with you, and no I do not care what conclusions you draw from me siding with the Guy You Think You Know Better Than.

Copper · wrote on 29 Apr 2020, 21:20

@Aqua-Letifer said in US has a shitload of cases:

@Horace said in US has a shitload of cases:

I think there is zero chance he doesn't know the difference, economically or otherwise, between a soldier getting cut down in his 20s and an older person with co-morbidities dying of a virus. But he never mentioned that difference.

I absolutely refuse to acknowledge the difference. Chalk it up to my nonexistent woke-liberal mentality if you want, I don't give a shit. I categorically deny that a 20-year-old dying is more tragic than a 60-year-old dying. I personally find either scenario equally tragic in very different ways. Believe what you want, but no I do not have to agree with you, and no I do not care what conclusions you draw from me siding with the Guy You Think You Know Better Than.

So finally you agree that this is a game of a death is a death.

And until covid-19 (probably) passed the 2019 flu last week the winner was 2019 flu.

More deaths is worse.

Doctor Phibes · wrote on 29 Apr 2020, 21:21

Lots and lots of civilians, including older people, die in wars. Not Americans, maybe, since you haven't had a major war on your mainland since the civil war, but a shit ton of other folk have. Typically, half the deaths are civilian.

On the other hand, I think comparing Covid-19 to WW2 or Vietnam is ridiculous. Three million non-Americans died in Vietnam.

Horace · wrote on 29 Apr 2020, 21:27

@Aqua-Letifer said in US has a shitload of cases:

@Horace said in US has a shitload of cases:

I think there is zero chance he doesn't know the difference, economically or otherwise, between a soldier getting cut down in his 20s and an older person with co-morbidities dying of a virus. But he never mentioned that difference.

I absolutely refuse to acknowledge the difference. Chalk it up to my nonexistent woke-liberal mentality if you want, I don't give a shit. I categorically deny that a 20-year-old dying is more tragic than a 60-year-old dying. I personally find either scenario equally tragic in very different ways. Believe what you want, but no I do not have to agree with you, and no I do not care what conclusions you draw from me siding with the Guy You Think You Know Better Than.

I don't think I know better than him. He is clearly way beyond me when it comes to pretty much everything. I only noticed that he, like most people who are motivated to engage in public discussions about covid, isn't going to spend his time doing so with perfect intellectual honesty. If he's motivated enough to engage in the discussion then he's motivated enough to cut some corners so his message is more persuasive. After all, I'm sure he believes he'll save lives. Who wouldn't cut some corners for that?

jon-nyc · 30 Apr 2020, 22:36

@jon-nyc said in US has a shitload of cases:

632,878 4.7% daily increase. Deaths 27,850 9.5% daily increase.
658,263 4% increase. Deaths 32,186 up 15.6%
692,169 5.2% increase. Deaths 32,232 up 0.14% increase.
726,645 5% increase. Deaths 37,938 up 17.7%
755,533 4% increase. Deaths 40,461 up 6.7%
820,104. 4.2% increase. Deaths 44,228 up 4.6%
846,982 3.3% increase. Deaths 46,560 up 5.3%
890,524, 2.5% increase. Deaths 51,017 up up 4.7%.
963,168 4% increase. Deaths 54,530 up 3.4%.
1,010,717. 2.4% increase. Deaths 58,365 up 3.5%

1,036,652 2.6% increase. Deaths 60,475 up 3.6%

jon-nyc · 1 May 2020, 22:01

@jon-nyc said in US has a shitload of cases:

658,263 4% increase. Deaths 32,186 up 15.6%
692,169 5.2% increase. Deaths 32,232 up 0.14% increase.
726,645 5% increase. Deaths 37,938 up 17.7%
755,533 4% increase. Deaths 40,461 up 6.7%
820,104. 4.2% increase. Deaths 44,228 up 4.6%
846,982 3.3% increase. Deaths 46,560 up 5.3%
890,524, 2.5% increase. Deaths 51,017 up up 4.7%.
963,168 4% increase. Deaths 54,530 up 3.4%.
1,010,717. 2.4% increase. Deaths 58,365 up 3.5%
1,036,652 2.6% increase. Deaths 60,475 up 3.6%

1,067,061 2.9% increase. Deaths 62,870 up 4.0%

Mik · wrote on 30 Apr 2020, 22:41

Let's just call it roughly 2,400 a day. I think that's worth considering.

89th · 5 Jan 2020, 00:43

Basically a 9/11 death toll per day.

jon-nyc · 3 May 2020, 22:15

@jon-nyc said in US has a shitload of cases:

658,263 4% increase. Deaths 32,186 up 15.6%
692,169 5.2% increase. Deaths 32,232 up 0.14% increase.
726,645 5% increase. Deaths 37,938 up 17.7%
755,533 4% increase. Deaths 40,461 up 6.7%
820,104. 4.2% increase. Deaths 44,228 up 4.6%
846,982 3.3% increase. Deaths 46,560 up 5.3%
890,524, 2.5% increase. Deaths 51,017 up up 4.7%.
963,168 4% increase. Deaths 54,530 up 3.4%.
1,010,717. 2.4% increase. Deaths 58,365 up 3.5%
1,036,652 2.6% increase. Deaths 60,475 up 3.6%
1,067,061 2.9% increase. Deaths 62,870 up 4.0%

1,098,565, up up 3.0%. Deaths 64,577 up 2.7%.

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US has a shitload of cases