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Where the Founding Fathers Would Stand Today

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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    https://www.nationalreview.com/2022/01/where-the-founding-fathers-would-stand-today/#slide-1

    Interesting take on Jefferson.

    Jefferson’s principles were malleable, adapting to circumstance. As much as Jefferson’s ideals have been influential in shaping America, a picture of Jefferson transplanted to the 21st century would place greater weight on his personality.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • MikM Away
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      Interesting piece, without being partisan.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        That was interesting. But as he said, it is so difficult to try and imagine how living in a different era would have changed things for them.

        "Washington - .....and strict adherence to the original, written Constitution — served him well in most instances"

        But the Constitution was a pretty much new document at that point.

        "Jefferson - ...who believed in an agrarian nation. "

        Farmers were probably 90+% of the population at that time.

        Anyways, a good thinking exercise

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          Yeah - the interesting part is that the founding fathers were literally revolutionaries. Progressives of their day.

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          • JollyJ Offline
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            No, more like classic liberals.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

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              • LarryL Offline
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                @jolly said in Where the Founding Fathers Would Stand Today:

                No, more like classic liberals.

                Yes. Not a single one of the founding fathers could even remotely be said to be a progressive. Not one.

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                  If the founding fathers were alive today, one thing I do know is they'd be fucking old.

                  I rather suspect they'd be a bit out of touch.

                  I was only joking

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                  • LarryL Offline
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                    Anyone with any sense at all is out of touch with the current state of society.

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                      Anyone with any sense at all is out of touch with the current state of society.

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                      @larry said in Where the Founding Fathers Would Stand Today:

                      Anyone with any sense at all is out of touch with the current state of society.

                      Some bits are dreadful, some bits are good. Just like back then.

                      I was only joking

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                        If James Madison were alive today, you know Trump would call him "Little Jimmy" on twitter

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                          If James Madison were alive today, you know Trump would call him "Little Jimmy" on twitter

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                          @89th said in Where the Founding Fathers Would Stand Today:

                          If James Madison were alive today, you know Trump would call him "Little Jimmy" on twitter

                          Trump would also be relegated to only having the third most unconvincing hairdo in Washington.

                          I was only joking

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