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"Mr. President, when are you going to sign the checks?"

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  • 89th8 Offline
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    89th
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    #9

    Joe.

    He also does a bad “pretend I’m not reading from a teleprompter” act too.

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    • AxtremusA Offline
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      Axtremus
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      #10

      Too lazy to go lookup a new story link, but the story goes that Trump is/was trying to get the Treasury Department to put his signature on the physical stimulus checks that will be sent out per the COVID-19 stimulus package, presumably to trick to the gullible into thinking that it's Trump who is giving them the money, and that attempt to get his signature onto those physical checks is causing a delay in getting those checks out. That's what Biden was complaining about.

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      • 89th8 89th

        Is it me or does he look sickly?

        brendaB Offline
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        brenda
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        #11

        @89th
        Joe has been looking sickly for quite a while. He doesn't look healthy.

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        • kluursK Online
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          kluurs
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          #12

          No question that one thing that both Trump and Biden share is supreme confidence in their abilities. After a career of sticking his foot in his mouth, Biden has not lost any enthusiasm for demonstrating his dexterity in this endeavor.

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          • AxtremusA Offline
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            Axtremus
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            #13

            https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/04/05/americans-hit-by-economic-shocks-confusion-stumbles-undermine-trumps-stimulus-effort/

            On April 9, Treasury will start doing direct deposits for those who provided bank account information with their tax returns, then to those who get Social Security benefits but did not file tax return. Paper checks to be sent out starting April 24, sending out checks for those with the lowest income and move upwards, reaching joint-filers with at the top of the phase out range in around August-September timeframe.

            One can argue whether that’s “fast enough”, but leveraging direct deposit facilities and prioritizing the checks for the low income are the right things to do.

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            • AxtremusA Axtremus

              https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/04/05/americans-hit-by-economic-shocks-confusion-stumbles-undermine-trumps-stimulus-effort/

              On April 9, Treasury will start doing direct deposits for those who provided bank account information with their tax returns, then to those who get Social Security benefits but did not file tax return. Paper checks to be sent out starting April 24, sending out checks for those with the lowest income and move upwards, reaching joint-filers with at the top of the phase out range in around August-September timeframe.

              One can argue whether that’s “fast enough”, but leveraging direct deposit facilities and prioritizing the checks for the low income are the right things to do.

              CopperC Offline
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              Copper
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              #14

              The whole thing is ridiculous.

              Most people, including me, don't need the check, but I will get the maximum amount.

              Idiots.

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              • CopperC Copper

                The whole thing is ridiculous.

                Most people, including me, don't need the check, but I will get the maximum amount.

                Idiots.

                Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                Aqua Letifer
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                #15

                @Copper Speed > precision. That's my understanding of why they did it the way they did.

                Please love yourself.

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                • AxtremusA Offline
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                  #16

                  Coronavirus: Trump’s name to appear on US relief cheques
                  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-52293910

                  President Donald Trump’s name will be printed on paper cheques being sent to millions of Americans struggling financially because of coronavirus.
                  It is the first time a US president's name will appear on a federal government handout. ...
                  More than 80 million Americans are expected to receive payments of up to $1,200 in their bank accounts on Wednesday, according to the Treasury Department
                  But for those who did not provide banking details, they will receive a cheque with "President Donald J. Trump" printed on the left-hand side. ...
                  Critics are accusing the president of playing politics, using the financial aid to boost his reputation in an election year.
                  "You are getting your money late because the President thinks it is more important that his name be on the cheque than that you are able to pay your bills on time," tweeted Democatic Senator Brian Schatz.
                  And Senator Chris Murphy from Connecticut, which has around 3,500 COVID-19 cases, accused Mr Trump of putting himself “first” and “America second”. ...

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                  • MikM Away
                    MikM Away
                    Mik
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                    #17

                    A senator from Connecticut said something like that? No way... (he said, sarcastically).

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • jon-nycJ Offline
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                      #18

                      Disgusting.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      • jon-nycJ Offline
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                        #19

                        So the IRS has direct deposit information from something like 80MM households.

                        The ones that were delayed for Trumps ego surely skewed old and poor.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        • MikM Away
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                          Mik
                          wrote on last edited by Mik
                          #20

                          Do we know they were delayed for that reason or are we just assuming and trotting out his signature as the reason? He certainly walked into right it if it was his idea.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            jon-nyc
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                            #21

                            IRS sources say yes, while programmers work from home to make programming changes. Officially Trump's treasury says no.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

                            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                            • MikM Mik

                              Do we know they were delayed for that reason or are we just assuming and trotting out his signature as the reason? He certainly walked into right it if it was his idea.

                              JollyJ Offline
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                              Jolly
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                              #22

                              @Mik said in "Mr. President, when are you going to sign the checks?":

                              Do we know they were delayed for that reason or are we just assuming and trotting out his signature as the reason? He certainly walked into right it if it was his idea.

                              The Treasury said the paper checks are rolling out on schedule and that adding his signature added no time to the check printing dates.

                              Figured as much. How much time does it take to sub one signature for another in a computer program? Payroll departments do it all the time.

                              H8ters gotta hate...

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                jon-nyc
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                                #23

                                Try to imagine what Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh would have done if Obama wanted his signature on checks from the United States Treasury. Not to mention posters here.

                                Only non-witches get due process.

                                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                • MikM Away
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                                  Mik
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                                  #24

                                  So we don't know for sure.

                                  What we do know is it is a very bad idea, a huge unforced error.

                                  But one thing I take exception with in an article in WaPo:

                                  "But to critics and some IRS employees, many of whom started to learn of the decision on Tuesday, the presence of Trump’s name on the checks reeks of partisanship in a corner of the government that touches all Americans and has, since the Nixon era, steadfastly steered clear of politics. "

                                  Steered clear of politics? Anyone remember the weaponization of the IRS against conservative groups in the Obama admin? What a short memory WaPo has.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  • jon-nycJ Offline
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                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                                    #25

                                    Sometimes I think the worst aspect of Trump is not even his behavior, rather it's watching his supporters further and further debase themselves by defending him or looking the other way.

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

                                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                    • JollyJ Jolly

                                      @Mik said in "Mr. President, when are you going to sign the checks?":

                                      Do we know they were delayed for that reason or are we just assuming and trotting out his signature as the reason? He certainly walked into right it if it was his idea.

                                      The Treasury said the paper checks are rolling out on schedule and that adding his signature added no time to the check printing dates.

                                      Figured as much. How much time does it take to sub one signature for another in a computer program? Payroll departments do it all the time.

                                      H8ters gotta hate...

                                      AxtremusA Offline
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                                      Axtremus
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #26

                                      @Jolly It is a completely unnecessary change that (1) creates extra work for the IRS in a time of crisis and (2) confers no additional benefit to the nation. For that, it deserves criticism.

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                                      • JollyJ Offline
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                                        Jolly
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #27

                                        Try to imagine what job would have said it Trump delayed the printing of the checks for one day.

                                        Look, adding a sit to a monumental program has been done in the past and it will be done in the future.

                                        It's a nonstory for the TDS crowd.

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                          jon-nyc
                                          wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                                          #28

                                          Honestly any additional delay or effort is trivial in the grand scheme of things.

                                          It's really the principle of it, l'Etat, c'est lui.

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

                                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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