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"Mr. President, when are you going to sign the checks?"

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  • AxtremusA Offline
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    Axtremus
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    #13

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/04/05/americans-hit-by-economic-shocks-confusion-stumbles-undermine-trumps-stimulus-effort/

    On April 9, Treasury will start doing direct deposits for those who provided bank account information with their tax returns, then to those who get Social Security benefits but did not file tax return. Paper checks to be sent out starting April 24, sending out checks for those with the lowest income and move upwards, reaching joint-filers with at the top of the phase out range in around August-September timeframe.

    One can argue whether that’s “fast enough”, but leveraging direct deposit facilities and prioritizing the checks for the low income are the right things to do.

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    • AxtremusA Axtremus

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/04/05/americans-hit-by-economic-shocks-confusion-stumbles-undermine-trumps-stimulus-effort/

      On April 9, Treasury will start doing direct deposits for those who provided bank account information with their tax returns, then to those who get Social Security benefits but did not file tax return. Paper checks to be sent out starting April 24, sending out checks for those with the lowest income and move upwards, reaching joint-filers with at the top of the phase out range in around August-September timeframe.

      One can argue whether that’s “fast enough”, but leveraging direct deposit facilities and prioritizing the checks for the low income are the right things to do.

      CopperC Offline
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      Copper
      wrote on last edited by
      #14

      The whole thing is ridiculous.

      Most people, including me, don't need the check, but I will get the maximum amount.

      Idiots.

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      • CopperC Copper

        The whole thing is ridiculous.

        Most people, including me, don't need the check, but I will get the maximum amount.

        Idiots.

        Aqua LetiferA Offline
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        Aqua Letifer
        wrote on last edited by
        #15

        @Copper Speed > precision. That's my understanding of why they did it the way they did.

        Please love yourself.

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          Axtremus
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          #16

          Coronavirus: Trump’s name to appear on US relief cheques
          https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-52293910

          President Donald Trump’s name will be printed on paper cheques being sent to millions of Americans struggling financially because of coronavirus.
          It is the first time a US president's name will appear on a federal government handout. ...
          More than 80 million Americans are expected to receive payments of up to $1,200 in their bank accounts on Wednesday, according to the Treasury Department
          But for those who did not provide banking details, they will receive a cheque with "President Donald J. Trump" printed on the left-hand side. ...
          Critics are accusing the president of playing politics, using the financial aid to boost his reputation in an election year.
          "You are getting your money late because the President thinks it is more important that his name be on the cheque than that you are able to pay your bills on time," tweeted Democatic Senator Brian Schatz.
          And Senator Chris Murphy from Connecticut, which has around 3,500 COVID-19 cases, accused Mr Trump of putting himself “first” and “America second”. ...

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          • MikM Away
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            Mik
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            #17

            A senator from Connecticut said something like that? No way... (he said, sarcastically).

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • jon-nycJ Offline
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              jon-nyc
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              #18

              Disgusting.

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                jon-nyc
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                #19

                So the IRS has direct deposit information from something like 80MM households.

                The ones that were delayed for Trumps ego surely skewed old and poor.

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                • MikM Away
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                  Mik
                  wrote on last edited by Mik
                  #20

                  Do we know they were delayed for that reason or are we just assuming and trotting out his signature as the reason? He certainly walked into right it if it was his idea.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    #21

                    IRS sources say yes, while programmers work from home to make programming changes. Officially Trump's treasury says no.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    • MikM Mik

                      Do we know they were delayed for that reason or are we just assuming and trotting out his signature as the reason? He certainly walked into right it if it was his idea.

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                      @Mik said in "Mr. President, when are you going to sign the checks?":

                      Do we know they were delayed for that reason or are we just assuming and trotting out his signature as the reason? He certainly walked into right it if it was his idea.

                      The Treasury said the paper checks are rolling out on schedule and that adding his signature added no time to the check printing dates.

                      Figured as much. How much time does it take to sub one signature for another in a computer program? Payroll departments do it all the time.

                      H8ters gotta hate...

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        jon-nyc
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                        #23

                        Try to imagine what Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh would have done if Obama wanted his signature on checks from the United States Treasury. Not to mention posters here.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        • MikM Away
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                          Mik
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                          So we don't know for sure.

                          What we do know is it is a very bad idea, a huge unforced error.

                          But one thing I take exception with in an article in WaPo:

                          "But to critics and some IRS employees, many of whom started to learn of the decision on Tuesday, the presence of Trump’s name on the checks reeks of partisanship in a corner of the government that touches all Americans and has, since the Nixon era, steadfastly steered clear of politics. "

                          Steered clear of politics? Anyone remember the weaponization of the IRS against conservative groups in the Obama admin? What a short memory WaPo has.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            jon-nyc
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                            #25

                            Sometimes I think the worst aspect of Trump is not even his behavior, rather it's watching his supporters further and further debase themselves by defending him or looking the other way.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

                            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                            • JollyJ Jolly

                              @Mik said in "Mr. President, when are you going to sign the checks?":

                              Do we know they were delayed for that reason or are we just assuming and trotting out his signature as the reason? He certainly walked into right it if it was his idea.

                              The Treasury said the paper checks are rolling out on schedule and that adding his signature added no time to the check printing dates.

                              Figured as much. How much time does it take to sub one signature for another in a computer program? Payroll departments do it all the time.

                              H8ters gotta hate...

                              AxtremusA Offline
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                              Axtremus
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #26

                              @Jolly It is a completely unnecessary change that (1) creates extra work for the IRS in a time of crisis and (2) confers no additional benefit to the nation. For that, it deserves criticism.

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                                Jolly
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #27

                                Try to imagine what job would have said it Trump delayed the printing of the checks for one day.

                                Look, adding a sit to a monumental program has been done in the past and it will be done in the future.

                                It's a nonstory for the TDS crowd.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                                  #28

                                  Honestly any additional delay or effort is trivial in the grand scheme of things.

                                  It's really the principle of it, l'Etat, c'est lui.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

                                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                  • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                    @Jolly It is a completely unnecessary change that (1) creates extra work for the IRS in a time of crisis and (2) confers no additional benefit to the nation. For that, it deserves criticism.

                                    JollyJ Offline
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                                    Jolly
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #29

                                    @Axtremus said in "Mr. President, when are you going to sign the checks?":

                                    @Jolly It is a completely unnecessary change that (1) creates extra work for the IRS in a time of crisis and (2) confers no additional benefit to the nation. For that, it deserves criticism.

                                    Horsefeathers.

                                    The IRS has a due date of 7/15 for tax returns. I suspect they aren't near as busy this time of year as usual.

                                    And if you judge the Federal government by the yardstick of unnecessary, let's have a talk about the Department of Education and their 68 billion dollar budget.

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      Axtremus
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                                      @Jolly you see federal work that is "unnecessary," so you criticize that.
                                      Adding Trump's name to the checks is definitely unnecessary. So that, too, deserves criticism.

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                                        Copper
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                                        #31

                                        He is hoping to increase his name recognition for the upcoming election.

                                        Standard for any politician.

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                                        • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                          @Jolly you see federal work that is "unnecessary," so you criticize that.
                                          Adding Trump's name to the checks is definitely unnecessary. So that, too, deserves criticism.

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                                          Jolly
                                          wrote on last edited by Jolly
                                          #32

                                          @Axtremus said in "Mr. President, when are you going to sign the checks?":

                                          @Jolly you see federal work that is "unnecessary," so you criticize that.
                                          Adding Trump's name to the checks is definitely unnecessary. So that, too, deserves criticism.

                                          Excuse me, who is the President? Does it hurt to have his name on the check? How much was the supplemental appropriation to hire the army of programmers it took to effect this change?

                                          Your position is so absurd, it's laughable. You have now equated a small signature change that cost nothing, to an unneeded federal department that costs billions of dollars.

                                          Bwahahahahahahahaha!!!

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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