Jussie Smollett's trial
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But a gay black man, represented by two black women, lost a case presided by an old white man?
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But a gay black man, represented by two black women, lost a case presided by an old white man?
@lufins-dad said in Jussie Smollet's trial:
But a gay black man, represented by two black women, lost a case presided by an old white man?
What was the racial makeup of the jury?
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@lufins-dad said in Jussie Smollet's trial:
But a gay black man, represented by two black women, lost a case presided by an old white man?
What was the racial makeup of the jury?
@george-k said in Jussie Smollet's trial:
@lufins-dad said in Jussie Smollet's trial:
But a gay black man, represented by two black women, lost a case presided by an old white man?
What was the racial makeup of the jury?
Racial makeup? Is that like blackface?
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@89th said in Jussie Smollet's trial:
To be fair, he has more name recognition now. That was an end goal?
Not sure if "fair" is the right word, but Mrs. George commented that the motivation was publicity, of which there is no such thing as "bad."
If he goes to prison (and I doubt he will), perhaps his fame will give him some juice.
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At least that is some good news. Pretend crimes should have real consequences. Sadly, too often real crimes have pretend consequences.
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@george-k said in Jussie Smollet's trial:
Lyin' Joe:
To be fair, his predecessor lied like a bastard about the "greatest crime in history".
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@george-k said in Jussie Smollet's trial:
Lyin' Joe:
To be fair, his predecessor lied like a bastard about the "greatest crime in history".
@doctor-phibes said in Jussie Smollet's trial:
To be fair, his predecessor lied like a bastard about the "greatest crime in history".
No question.
But, interestingly, the Orange Man gets called out on it time and again, and Lyin' Amtrak Joe gets a pass.
(he lied about his Amtrak miles again, yesterday)
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@doctor-phibes said in Jussie Smollet's trial:
To be fair, his predecessor lied like a bastard about the "greatest crime in history".
No question.
But, interestingly, the Orange Man gets called out on it time and again, and Lyin' Amtrak Joe gets a pass.
(he lied about his Amtrak miles again, yesterday)
@george-k said in Jussie Smollet's trial:
@doctor-phibes said in Jussie Smollet's trial:
To be fair, his predecessor lied like a bastard about the "greatest crime in history".
No question.
But, interestingly, the Orange Man gets called out on it time and again, and Lyin' Amtrak Joe gets a pass.
(he lied about his Amtrak miles again, yesterday)
I'm no fan of Biden, or of the US media's treatment of him, however lying with some stupid anecdote about Amtrak miles, and about having the Presidential election stolen from him really aren't the same thing.
I know, I know, you can say we're just arguing about price. Except we really aren't.
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@george-k said in Jussie Smollet's trial:
@doctor-phibes said in Jussie Smollet's trial:
To be fair, his predecessor lied like a bastard about the "greatest crime in history".
No question.
But, interestingly, the Orange Man gets called out on it time and again, and Lyin' Amtrak Joe gets a pass.
(he lied about his Amtrak miles again, yesterday)
I'm no fan of Biden, or of the US media's treatment of him, however lying with some stupid anecdote about Amtrak miles, and about having the Presidential election stolen from him really aren't the same thing.
I know, I know, you can say we're just arguing about price. Except we really aren't.
@doctor-phibes said in Jussie Smollet's trial:
stupid anecdote about Amtrak miles, and about having the Presidential election stolen from him really aren't the same thing.
Of course they're not.
Neither is his law school prowess, the number of degrees he got, travels with Mandela, or a hundred other things.
But all of them speak to either character or soundness of mind. I'll grant you that Trump lacked the former. Biden lacks them both.
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@doctor-phibes said in Jussie Smollet's trial:
stupid anecdote about Amtrak miles, and about having the Presidential election stolen from him really aren't the same thing.
Of course they're not.
Neither is his law school prowess, the number of degrees he got, travels with Mandela, or a hundred other things.
But all of them speak to either character or soundness of mind. I'll grant you that Trump lacked the former. Biden lacks them both.
@george-k said in Jussie Smollet's trial:
But all of them speak to either character or soundness of mind. I'll grant you that Trump lacked the former. Biden lacks them both.
I was never that convinced of Trump's sanity either, to be honest.
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@george-k said in Jussie Smollet's trial:
But all of them speak to either character or soundness of mind. I'll grant you that Trump lacked the former. Biden lacks them both.
I was never that convinced of Trump's sanity either, to be honest.
@doctor-phibes said in Jussie Smollet's trial:
@george-k said in Jussie Smollet's trial:
But all of them speak to either character or soundness of mind. I'll grant you that Trump lacked the former. Biden lacks them both.
I was never that convinced of Trump's sanity either, to be honest.
So... you didn't like the way he operated. Fair enough. There were many times I cringed at something he said or did, as I suspect many conservatives did. I attributed that to the fact that he was a brash New Yorker.
I overlooked that because I was more focused on what he was doing for this country... his policies, not his methods.
I'm doing the same thing with Biden. His policies are not working for this country.
Now, if you'd like to compare policies over character, I'll engage. Otherwise, talk to the hand.
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@doctor-phibes said in Jussie Smollet's trial:
@george-k said in Jussie Smollet's trial:
But all of them speak to either character or soundness of mind. I'll grant you that Trump lacked the former. Biden lacks them both.
I was never that convinced of Trump's sanity either, to be honest.
So... you didn't like the way he operated. Fair enough. There were many times I cringed at something he said or did, as I suspect many conservatives did. I attributed that to the fact that he was a brash New Yorker.
I overlooked that because I was more focused on what he was doing for this country... his policies, not his methods.
I'm doing the same thing with Biden. His policies are not working for this country.
Now, if you'd like to compare policies over character, I'll engage. Otherwise, talk to the hand.
@improviso said in Jussie Smollet's trial:
@doctor-phibes said in Jussie Smollet's trial:
@george-k said in Jussie Smollet's trial:
But all of them speak to either character or soundness of mind. I'll grant you that Trump lacked the former. Biden lacks them both.
I was never that convinced of Trump's sanity either, to be honest.
So... you didn't like the way he operated. Fair enough. There were many times I cringed at something he said or did, as I suspect many conservatives did. I attributed that to the fact that he was a brash New Yorker.
I overlooked that because I was more focused on what he was doing for this country... his policies, not his methods.
I'm doing the same thing with Biden. His policies are not working for this country.
Now, if you'd like to compare policies over character, I'll engage. Otherwise, talk to the hand.
Yeah, this is what always happens. Somebody says something about somebody's character, I respond and say look at the state of your fucking guy. Then the follow up is 'never mind about character, look at policies, otherwise shut up'.
If you don't want to talk about character, then don't bring it up in the first place.
