Jussie Smollett's trial
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wrote on 9 Dec 2021, 23:21 last edited by
The jury is in - a very quick verdict.
And it's guilty on the first 5 charges.
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wrote on 9 Dec 2021, 23:35 last edited by
But a gay black man, represented by two black women, lost a case presided by an old white man?
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But a gay black man, represented by two black women, lost a case presided by an old white man?
wrote on 9 Dec 2021, 23:43 last edited by@lufins-dad said in Jussie Smollet's trial:
But a gay black man, represented by two black women, lost a case presided by an old white man?
What was the racial makeup of the jury?
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@lufins-dad said in Jussie Smollet's trial:
But a gay black man, represented by two black women, lost a case presided by an old white man?
What was the racial makeup of the jury?
wrote on 9 Dec 2021, 23:48 last edited by@george-k said in Jussie Smollet's trial:
@lufins-dad said in Jussie Smollet's trial:
But a gay black man, represented by two black women, lost a case presided by an old white man?
What was the racial makeup of the jury?
Racial makeup? Is that like blackface?
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wrote on 9 Dec 2021, 23:48 last edited by
Lyin' Joe:
Do you think he'll be disappointed and angry with the verdict?
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wrote on 10 Dec 2021, 00:16 last edited by
To be fair, he has more name recognition now. That was an end goal?
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wrote on 10 Dec 2021, 00:26 last edited by
@89th said in Jussie Smollet's trial:
To be fair, he has more name recognition now. That was an end goal?
Not sure if "fair" is the right word, but Mrs. George commented that the motivation was publicity, of which there is no such thing as "bad."
If he goes to prison (and I doubt he will), perhaps his fame will give him some juice.
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wrote on 10 Dec 2021, 00:39 last edited by
At least that is some good news. Pretend crimes should have real consequences. Sadly, too often real crimes have pretend consequences.
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At least that is some good news. Pretend crimes should have real consequences. Sadly, too often real crimes have pretend consequences.
wrote on 10 Dec 2021, 00:48 last edited by@kluurs said in Jussie Smollet's trial:
Pretend crimes should have real consequences. Sadly, too often real crimes have pretend consequences.
That is more profound than you think.
Wonderful comment.
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wrote on 10 Dec 2021, 01:03 last edited by Doctor Phibes 12 Oct 2021, 01:03
@george-k said in Jussie Smollet's trial:
Lyin' Joe:
To be fair, his predecessor lied like a bastard about the "greatest crime in history".
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@george-k said in Jussie Smollet's trial:
Lyin' Joe:
To be fair, his predecessor lied like a bastard about the "greatest crime in history".
wrote on 10 Dec 2021, 01:34 last edited by@doctor-phibes said in Jussie Smollet's trial:
To be fair, his predecessor lied like a bastard about the "greatest crime in history".
No question.
But, interestingly, the Orange Man gets called out on it time and again, and Lyin' Amtrak Joe gets a pass.
(he lied about his Amtrak miles again, yesterday)
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@doctor-phibes said in Jussie Smollet's trial:
To be fair, his predecessor lied like a bastard about the "greatest crime in history".
No question.
But, interestingly, the Orange Man gets called out on it time and again, and Lyin' Amtrak Joe gets a pass.
(he lied about his Amtrak miles again, yesterday)
wrote on 10 Dec 2021, 12:25 last edited by Doctor Phibes 12 Oct 2021, 12:25@george-k said in Jussie Smollet's trial:
@doctor-phibes said in Jussie Smollet's trial:
To be fair, his predecessor lied like a bastard about the "greatest crime in history".
No question.
But, interestingly, the Orange Man gets called out on it time and again, and Lyin' Amtrak Joe gets a pass.
(he lied about his Amtrak miles again, yesterday)
I'm no fan of Biden, or of the US media's treatment of him, however lying with some stupid anecdote about Amtrak miles, and about having the Presidential election stolen from him really aren't the same thing.
I know, I know, you can say we're just arguing about price. Except we really aren't.
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@george-k said in Jussie Smollet's trial:
@doctor-phibes said in Jussie Smollet's trial:
To be fair, his predecessor lied like a bastard about the "greatest crime in history".
No question.
But, interestingly, the Orange Man gets called out on it time and again, and Lyin' Amtrak Joe gets a pass.
(he lied about his Amtrak miles again, yesterday)
I'm no fan of Biden, or of the US media's treatment of him, however lying with some stupid anecdote about Amtrak miles, and about having the Presidential election stolen from him really aren't the same thing.
I know, I know, you can say we're just arguing about price. Except we really aren't.
wrote on 10 Dec 2021, 12:32 last edited by@doctor-phibes said in Jussie Smollet's trial:
stupid anecdote about Amtrak miles, and about having the Presidential election stolen from him really aren't the same thing.
Of course they're not.
Neither is his law school prowess, the number of degrees he got, travels with Mandela, or a hundred other things.
But all of them speak to either character or soundness of mind. I'll grant you that Trump lacked the former. Biden lacks them both.
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@doctor-phibes said in Jussie Smollet's trial:
stupid anecdote about Amtrak miles, and about having the Presidential election stolen from him really aren't the same thing.
Of course they're not.
Neither is his law school prowess, the number of degrees he got, travels with Mandela, or a hundred other things.
But all of them speak to either character or soundness of mind. I'll grant you that Trump lacked the former. Biden lacks them both.
wrote on 10 Dec 2021, 13:04 last edited by@george-k said in Jussie Smollet's trial:
But all of them speak to either character or soundness of mind. I'll grant you that Trump lacked the former. Biden lacks them both.
I was never that convinced of Trump's sanity either, to be honest.
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@george-k said in Jussie Smollet's trial:
But all of them speak to either character or soundness of mind. I'll grant you that Trump lacked the former. Biden lacks them both.
I was never that convinced of Trump's sanity either, to be honest.
wrote on 10 Dec 2021, 13:16 last edited by@doctor-phibes said in Jussie Smollet's trial:
@george-k said in Jussie Smollet's trial:
But all of them speak to either character or soundness of mind. I'll grant you that Trump lacked the former. Biden lacks them both.
I was never that convinced of Trump's sanity either, to be honest.
So... you didn't like the way he operated. Fair enough. There were many times I cringed at something he said or did, as I suspect many conservatives did. I attributed that to the fact that he was a brash New Yorker.
I overlooked that because I was more focused on what he was doing for this country... his policies, not his methods.
I'm doing the same thing with Biden. His policies are not working for this country.
Now, if you'd like to compare policies over character, I'll engage. Otherwise, talk to the hand.
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@doctor-phibes said in Jussie Smollet's trial:
@george-k said in Jussie Smollet's trial:
But all of them speak to either character or soundness of mind. I'll grant you that Trump lacked the former. Biden lacks them both.
I was never that convinced of Trump's sanity either, to be honest.
So... you didn't like the way he operated. Fair enough. There were many times I cringed at something he said or did, as I suspect many conservatives did. I attributed that to the fact that he was a brash New Yorker.
I overlooked that because I was more focused on what he was doing for this country... his policies, not his methods.
I'm doing the same thing with Biden. His policies are not working for this country.
Now, if you'd like to compare policies over character, I'll engage. Otherwise, talk to the hand.
wrote on 10 Dec 2021, 15:01 last edited by@improviso said in Jussie Smollet's trial:
@doctor-phibes said in Jussie Smollet's trial:
@george-k said in Jussie Smollet's trial:
But all of them speak to either character or soundness of mind. I'll grant you that Trump lacked the former. Biden lacks them both.
I was never that convinced of Trump's sanity either, to be honest.
So... you didn't like the way he operated. Fair enough. There were many times I cringed at something he said or did, as I suspect many conservatives did. I attributed that to the fact that he was a brash New Yorker.
I overlooked that because I was more focused on what he was doing for this country... his policies, not his methods.
I'm doing the same thing with Biden. His policies are not working for this country.
Now, if you'd like to compare policies over character, I'll engage. Otherwise, talk to the hand.
Yeah, this is what always happens. Somebody says something about somebody's character, I respond and say look at the state of your fucking guy. Then the follow up is 'never mind about character, look at policies, otherwise shut up'.
If you don't want to talk about character, then don't bring it up in the first place.
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wrote on 10 Dec 2021, 15:08 last edited by
He got the attention he craved, just not in the way he thought.
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wrote on 10 Dec 2021, 15:20 last edited by
Lynching would be poetic justice.
Just sayin'.
