"Jane Roe" speaks: "I was paid to speak against abortion."
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wrote on 19 May 2020, 22:41 last edited by
Hmmmm, I’ll take her word for it, but that doesn’t mean much now I guess
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wrote on 19 May 2020, 23:23 last edited by
Now she'll have to return the money.
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wrote on 20 May 2020, 00:22 last edited by
Her words and acts do not move me. None of them. The issue stands on its own and is informed by the damage I have seen done.
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wrote on 20 May 2020, 04:21 last edited by
Roe v Wade: Woman behind US abortion ruling was paid to recant
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52733886The Reverend Robert Schenck, one of the evangelical pastors who worked with McCorvey after her conversion to Christianity in the mid-1990s, also features in the documentary.
The minister acknowledges McCorvey was paid for her appearances on the movement's behalf. The programme says it was as much as half a million dollars.
"I knew what we were doing," Mr Schenck says. "And there were times when I was sure she knew."And I wondered: 'Is she playing us?' What I didn't have the guts to say was: 'Because I know damn well we're playing her.'"
Rev. Robert Schenck’s blog post: https://www.revrobschenck.com/blog/2020/5/18/a-movie-that-bares-the-soul-behind-roe-v-wade-along-with-my-own-
In the film, I admit Norma was for me a kind of trophy—a beloved one—but a trophy none-the-less. We held her up, showed her off, paraded her around. What we didn’t do was listen deeply to her pain and beg her pardon for objectifying her.
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wrote on 20 May 2020, 04:32 last edited by
What if she was paid to say that?
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What if she was paid to say that?
wrote on 20 May 2020, 04:42 last edited by@Ivorythumper said in "Jane Roe" speaks: "I was paid to speak against abortion.":
What if she was paid to say that?
Well, now it's just a stack of turtles all the way down.
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wrote on 20 May 2020, 12:37 last edited by Mik
Why would anyone listen to a woman who we already know will say whatever she is paid to say?
Perhaps we should apply that same principle to elections.
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Why would anyone listen to a woman who we already know will say whatever she is paid to say?
Perhaps we should apply that same principle to elections.
wrote on 20 May 2020, 13:07 last edited by@Mik said in "Jane Roe" speaks: "I was paid to speak against abortion.":
Why would anyone listen to a woman who we already know will say whatever she is paid to say?
Ah, but I quoted Reverend Robert Schenck, the guy who paid the woman to say what he wanted her to say.
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wrote on 20 May 2020, 13:20 last edited by
He's not a Reverend any more. He renounced his faith, and became a radical leftist. So did she. Once that happens you can no longer believe a words they say. Because one has to be mentally ill or evil, or both, to be a Leftist today.
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wrote on 20 May 2020, 13:21 last edited by Mik
You are not getting it, Ax. What she said had no impact whatsoever on my view on the subject even before I knew she was paid to say it. I've already seen the devastation choice can cause.
Now that we do know that it changes nothing for me and never did.
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wrote on 20 May 2020, 13:32 last edited by
Never get in the way of a Democrat killing babies.
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wrote on 20 May 2020, 13:36 last edited by
"My body, my choice!"
"Then why is the dead body not yours?" -
wrote on 20 May 2020, 13:43 last edited by
What an ugly story. Both sides used her as a tool, and she was playing along. Nobody gave a damn about her as a person or, for that matter, the fate of other expecting mothers and their offspring. It was all about winning.
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wrote on 20 May 2020, 13:55 last edited by
We only have the word of a former preacher turned radical to support the claim that she was paid. She obviously doesn't view lying as a problem.
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wrote on 21 May 2020, 11:52 last edited by
“She was telling the truth when she supported my position, and lying when not. I will need unassailable evidence to convince me otherwise.”
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wrote on 21 May 2020, 12:00 last edited by
Bottom line? She was what Carville had in mind when he made his hundred dollar bill comment.
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“She was telling the truth when she supported my position, and lying when not. I will need unassailable evidence to convince me otherwise.”
wrote on 21 May 2020, 12:23 last edited by@jon-nyc said in "Jane Roe" speaks: "I was paid to speak against abortion.":
“She was telling the truth when she supported my position, and lying when not. I will need unassailable evidence to convince me otherwise.”
Who is saying that?
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@jon-nyc said in "Jane Roe" speaks: "I was paid to speak against abortion.":
“She was telling the truth when she supported my position, and lying when not. I will need unassailable evidence to convince me otherwise.”
Who is saying that?
wrote on 21 May 2020, 12:31 last edited by@Mik said in "Jane Roe" speaks: "I was paid to speak against abortion.":
@jon-nyc said in "Jane Roe" speaks: "I was paid to speak against abortion.":
“She was telling the truth when she supported my position, and lying when not. I will need unassailable evidence to convince me otherwise.”
Who is saying that?
Pretty much everybody.
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wrote on 21 May 2020, 13:46 last edited by
At the time she made those statements there was no reason to believe she was lying. Now there is. Not seeing any conflict in those two positions.
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wrote on 21 May 2020, 14:37 last edited by
You can go one step further and weight the evidence:
- there is no evidence to suggest that she was paid to say X (the "pro-choice" stuff)
- now there is evidence indicating that she was paid to say Y (the "pro-life" stuff)
- there is no evidence to suggest that she is being paid to say Z (her "deathbed confession" saying that she was paid to to say Y, including collaborating confession by the person who paid her)
- there is no evidence to suggest that the collaborating confessor was paid to do so
None of these need to change your conviction on the underlying pro-choice vs. pro-life issue, of course. Still, the evidence favors her "deathbed confession" being true.
Separately, I am also curious if there are verified cases of former "pro-choice" spokespeople confessed to (or having been exposed) as being actually "pro-life" but merely toed the "pro-choice" line in public in exchange for material gains. Maybe there is zero "pro-life" person ever sold out to toe the "pro-choice" line in public?