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  3. "Jane Roe" speaks: "I was paid to speak against abortion."

"Jane Roe" speaks: "I was paid to speak against abortion."

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  • MikM Mik

    Why would anyone listen to a woman who we already know will say whatever she is paid to say?

    Perhaps we should apply that same principle to elections.

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    Axtremus
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    @Mik said in "Jane Roe" speaks: "I was paid to speak against abortion.":

    Why would anyone listen to a woman who we already know will say whatever she is paid to say?

    Ah, but I quoted Reverend Robert Schenck, the guy who paid the woman to say what he wanted her to say.

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      Larry
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      He's not a Reverend any more. He renounced his faith, and became a radical leftist. So did she. Once that happens you can no longer believe a words they say. Because one has to be mentally ill or evil, or both, to be a Leftist today.

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        #12

        You are not getting it, Ax. What she said had no impact whatsoever on my view on the subject even before I knew she was paid to say it. I've already seen the devastation choice can cause.

        Now that we do know that it changes nothing for me and never did.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          Never get in the way of a Democrat killing babies.

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            Larry
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            #14

            "My body, my choice!"
            "Then why is the dead body not yours?"

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              What an ugly story. Both sides used her as a tool, and she was playing along. Nobody gave a damn about her as a person or, for that matter, the fate of other expecting mothers and their offspring. It was all about winning.

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                We only have the word of a former preacher turned radical to support the claim that she was paid. She obviously doesn't view lying as a problem.

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                  #17

                  “She was telling the truth when she supported my position, and lying when not. I will need unassailable evidence to convince me otherwise.”

                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                    Bottom line? She was what Carville had in mind when he made his hundred dollar bill comment.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      “She was telling the truth when she supported my position, and lying when not. I will need unassailable evidence to convince me otherwise.”

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                      @jon-nyc said in "Jane Roe" speaks: "I was paid to speak against abortion.":

                      “She was telling the truth when she supported my position, and lying when not. I will need unassailable evidence to convince me otherwise.”

                      Who is saying that?

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • MikM Mik

                        @jon-nyc said in "Jane Roe" speaks: "I was paid to speak against abortion.":

                        “She was telling the truth when she supported my position, and lying when not. I will need unassailable evidence to convince me otherwise.”

                        Who is saying that?

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                        Doctor Phibes
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                        @Mik said in "Jane Roe" speaks: "I was paid to speak against abortion.":

                        @jon-nyc said in "Jane Roe" speaks: "I was paid to speak against abortion.":

                        “She was telling the truth when she supported my position, and lying when not. I will need unassailable evidence to convince me otherwise.”

                        Who is saying that?

                        Pretty much everybody.

                        I was only joking

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                          At the time she made those statements there was no reason to believe she was lying. Now there is. Not seeing any conflict in those two positions.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            You can go one step further and weight the evidence:

                            • there is no evidence to suggest that she was paid to say X (the "pro-choice" stuff)
                            • now there is evidence indicating that she was paid to say Y (the "pro-life" stuff)
                            • there is no evidence to suggest that she is being paid to say Z (her "deathbed confession" saying that she was paid to to say Y, including collaborating confession by the person who paid her)
                            • there is no evidence to suggest that the collaborating confessor was paid to do so

                            None of these need to change your conviction on the underlying pro-choice vs. pro-life issue, of course. Still, the evidence favors her "deathbed confession" being true.

                            Separately, I am also curious if there are verified cases of former "pro-choice" spokespeople confessed to (or having been exposed) as being actually "pro-life" but merely toed the "pro-choice" line in public in exchange for material gains. Maybe there is zero "pro-life" person ever sold out to toe the "pro-choice" line in public?

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                              It shouldn't actually matter what one person thinks, whether she's telling the truth or not. Millions of people have had abortions, and millions of people think it's wrong.

                              I was only joking

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                                Paid off and edited...

                                https://pjmedia.com/culture/tyler-o-neil/2020/05/21/deceptive-editing-norma-mccorvey-from-roe-v-wade-didnt-reject-the-pro-life-cause-former-lawyer-says-n411563

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  She was a bad girl

                                  Then she was a good girl

                                  Now she appears to be somewhere in between

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                                    Yet another case of the Left getting caught sucking eggs.

                                    Bwahahahaaaaa

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                                      Obviously, her lawyer is a completely unbiased source.

                                      I was only joking

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                                        GQ talks about this, apparently now only available on the internet archive:

                                        Segregationists, meanwhile, had their own racist reasons. George Wallace, the the longtime Republican governor of Alabama, four-time presidential candidate and outspoken segregationist who is often compared to Donald Trump, backed the legalization of abortion in the late 1960s because he claimed black women were “breeding children as a cash crop” and taking advantage of social welfare programs.

                                        And the edited version:

                                        George Wallace, the longtime governor of Alabama, a Democrat who would later join the far-right American Independent Party, four-time presidential candidate, and outspoken segregationist who is often compared to Donald Trump, backed the legalization of abortion in the late 1960s because he claimed black women were “breeding children as a cash crop” and taking advantage of social welfare programs.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          I lived through George Wallace. Trump is NOTHING like George Wallace.

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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