Omicron variant: Move over, Delta
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Israel just closed their borders.
wrote on 28 Nov 2021, 03:38 last edited by@lufins-dad keep out the riff raff
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I’m glad I’m flying home today (Sunday). Monday the airports will probably be messy as the US implements its ban.
We all had negative antigen tests Friday. We’ll be wearing N95s on the plane.
wrote on 28 Nov 2021, 03:50 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Move over, Delta:
I’m glad I’m flying home today (Sunday). Monday the airports will probably be messy as the US implements its ban.
We all had negative antigen tests Friday. We’ll be wearing N95s on the plane.
Hope the trip went smoothly.
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wrote on 28 Nov 2021, 04:13 last edited by
Oh yes, lovely. Not quite the same as spring break, which we purchased the tickets for. But still nice.
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I saw an article quoting a doc in South Africa who's taken care of patients with the
NuXiOmicron variant.First of all, his patient population was young, and afaik, had no co-morbidities.
He says the symptoms were very mild, no anosmia, no loss of taste. One kid had a very rapid heart rate. Most common symptoms were overwhelming fatigue and some fever.
All resolved in a matter of days.
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wrote on 28 Nov 2021, 12:47 last edited by
And meanwhile, in New York, the governor has cancelled all "elective" surgery because of the Omicron variant, which hasn't even been found in the US (though undoubtedly it exists).
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And meanwhile, in New York, the governor has cancelled all "elective" surgery because of the Omicron variant, which hasn't even been found in the US (though undoubtedly it exists).
wrote on 28 Nov 2021, 14:38 last edited by@george-k said in Move over, Delta:
governor has cancelled all "elective" surgery
Is he going to pick up the tab for that?
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wrote on 28 Nov 2021, 14:41 last edited by
Fear! FEAR! POWER!
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wrote on 28 Nov 2021, 14:46 last edited by
In the meantime, this may be the solution that we’ve been waiting for.
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In the meantime, this may be the solution that we’ve been waiting for.
wrote on 28 Nov 2021, 15:45 last edited by@lufins-dad said in Move over, Delta:
In the meantime, this may be the solution that we’ve been waiting for.
Attenuation, you mean?
They said it'd take 3-5 years, but it's also mutating at a much faster rate than they predicted.
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wrote on 28 Nov 2021, 15:47 last edited by
'They' have also speculated that the virus can only mutate so much. But it's at the point where I believe none of what I hear and only half of what I see.
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'They' have also speculated that the virus can only mutate so much. But it's at the point where I believe none of what I hear and only half of what I see.
wrote on 28 Nov 2021, 16:16 last edited by@mik said in Move over, Delta:
'They' have also speculated that the virus can only mutate so much. But it's at the point where I believe none of what I hear and only half of what I see.
That might mean different things.
Proteins are very complex. There are probably a near-infinite number of possibilities.
But how many of them can compete with Delta? Assume Xi (I'm calling it that) replaces Delta in fitness. That is hard enough, but Xi, being even more fit, would make it that much harder for new variants to replace Xi. And the kind of traits the new variants would need would lead it eventually toward attenuation. That's not to say one of them could blow up into something really nasty, but overall it's incentivized to get to something more like the common cold instead of ebola.
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wrote on 28 Nov 2021, 18:04 last edited by George K
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@mik said in Move over, Delta:
'They' have also speculated that the virus can only mutate so much. But it's at the point where I believe none of what I hear and only half of what I see.
That might mean different things.
Proteins are very complex. There are probably a near-infinite number of possibilities.
But how many of them can compete with Delta? Assume Xi (I'm calling it that) replaces Delta in fitness. That is hard enough, but Xi, being even more fit, would make it that much harder for new variants to replace Xi. And the kind of traits the new variants would need would lead it eventually toward attenuation. That's not to say one of them could blow up into something really nasty, but overall it's incentivized to get to something more like the common cold instead of ebola.
wrote on 28 Nov 2021, 18:25 last edited by@aqua-letifer said in Move over, Delta:
@mik said in Move over, Delta:
'They' have also speculated that the virus can only mutate so much. But it's at the point where I believe none of what I hear and only half of what I see.
That might mean different things.
Proteins are very complex. There are probably a near-infinite number of possibilities.
But how many of them can compete with Delta? Assume Xi (I'm calling it that) replaces Delta in fitness. That is hard enough, but Xi, being even more fit, would make it that much harder for new variants to replace Xi. And the kind of traits the new variants would need would lead it eventually toward attenuation. That's not to say one of them could blow up into something really nasty, but overall it's incentivized to get to something more like the common cold instead of ebola.
Technically this is Nu…
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@aqua-letifer said in Move over, Delta:
@mik said in Move over, Delta:
'They' have also speculated that the virus can only mutate so much. But it's at the point where I believe none of what I hear and only half of what I see.
That might mean different things.
Proteins are very complex. There are probably a near-infinite number of possibilities.
But how many of them can compete with Delta? Assume Xi (I'm calling it that) replaces Delta in fitness. That is hard enough, but Xi, being even more fit, would make it that much harder for new variants to replace Xi. And the kind of traits the new variants would need would lead it eventually toward attenuation. That's not to say one of them could blow up into something really nasty, but overall it's incentivized to get to something more like the common cold instead of ebola.
Technically this is Nu…
wrote on 28 Nov 2021, 18:42 last edited by@lufins-dad said in Move over, Delta:
@aqua-letifer said in Move over, Delta:
@mik said in Move over, Delta:
'They' have also speculated that the virus can only mutate so much. But it's at the point where I believe none of what I hear and only half of what I see.
That might mean different things.
Proteins are very complex. There are probably a near-infinite number of possibilities.
But how many of them can compete with Delta? Assume Xi (I'm calling it that) replaces Delta in fitness. That is hard enough, but Xi, being even more fit, would make it that much harder for new variants to replace Xi. And the kind of traits the new variants would need would lead it eventually toward attenuation. That's not to say one of them could blow up into something really nasty, but overall it's incentivized to get to something more like the common cold instead of ebola.
Technically this is Nu…
I Xi.
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Very clever.
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@jolly said in Move over, Delta:
Shocking...
Jolly, he is way off base. Novavax received emergency authorization for it’s regular vaccine. They are now starting to research and develop an Omicron vaccine update. Moderna, J&J and the others are now talking about testing their standard vaccine against the variant, which makes sense.