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    Horace
    wrote on 21 Nov 2021, 16:35 last edited by
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    It seems unrealistic to think anything is going to “fix” this. The left is content to be overtly tribal in the service of their full stop stance against racism, and the right has a choice to join them so that all their acquaintances know they are not racist, or continue to side politically with the right while being not racist but thought of as such. At least it beats joining them.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • H Horace
      21 Nov 2021, 16:35

      It seems unrealistic to think anything is going to “fix” this. The left is content to be overtly tribal in the service of their full stop stance against racism, and the right has a choice to join them so that all their acquaintances know they are not racist, or continue to side politically with the right while being not racist but thought of as such. At least it beats joining them.

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      LuFins Dad
      wrote on 21 Nov 2021, 16:41 last edited by
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      @horace said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

      It seems unrealistic to think anything is going to “fix” this. The left is content to be overtly tribal in the service of their full stop stance against racism, and the right has a choice to join them so that all their acquaintances know they are not racist, or continue to side politically with the right while being not racist but thought of as such. At least it beats joining them.

      The end result is actual racism.

      The Brad

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        21 Nov 2021, 15:39

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        Mik
        wrote on 21 Nov 2021, 16:48 last edited by
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        @george-k said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

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        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • J Jolly
          21 Nov 2021, 16:11

          @lufins-dad said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

          This tribalism is about to destroy this whole frigging thing.

          It's not as much tribalism as media sensationalism. They want eyeballs, Truth be damned.

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          Mik
          wrote on 21 Nov 2021, 16:49 last edited by
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          @jolly said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

          @lufins-dad said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

          This tribalism is about to destroy this whole frigging thing.

          It's not as much tribalism as media sensationalism. They want eyeballs, Truth be damned.

          And that is the truth.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • L LuFins Dad
            21 Nov 2021, 16:41

            @horace said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

            It seems unrealistic to think anything is going to “fix” this. The left is content to be overtly tribal in the service of their full stop stance against racism, and the right has a choice to join them so that all their acquaintances know they are not racist, or continue to side politically with the right while being not racist but thought of as such. At least it beats joining them.

            The end result is actual racism.

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            Horace
            wrote on 21 Nov 2021, 17:08 last edited by
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            @lufins-dad said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

            @horace said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

            It seems unrealistic to think anything is going to “fix” this. The left is content to be overtly tribal in the service of their full stop stance against racism, and the right has a choice to join them so that all their acquaintances know they are not racist, or continue to side politically with the right while being not racist but thought of as such. At least it beats joining them.

            The end result is actual racism.

            Yup. McWhorter wrote a book about it. The ideas therein are our best hope at shaming the masses of indoctrinated idiots away from their indoctrination.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • J Jolly
              21 Nov 2021, 16:11

              @lufins-dad said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

              This tribalism is about to destroy this whole frigging thing.

              It's not as much tribalism as media sensationalism. They want eyeballs, Truth be damned.

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              Horace
              wrote on 21 Nov 2021, 17:37 last edited by
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              @jolly said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

              @lufins-dad said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

              This tribalism is about to destroy this whole frigging thing.

              It's not as much tribalism as media sensationalism. They want eyeballs, Truth be damned.

              A train wreck might get some eyeballs, but train wrecks don't make people feel good about themselves, unless they can somehow blame their tribe's enemy for it. The eyeballs are attracted to corporate media mostly because the media is in service of the tribalism. And tribalism is effective because it relates directly to meaning in a person's life. It reinforces their belief that they are on right side of history.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • M Mik
                21 Nov 2021, 16:49

                @jolly said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

                @lufins-dad said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

                This tribalism is about to destroy this whole frigging thing.

                It's not as much tribalism as media sensationalism. They want eyeballs, Truth be damned.

                And that is the truth.

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                LuFins Dad
                wrote on 21 Nov 2021, 18:00 last edited by
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                @mik said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

                @jolly said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

                @lufins-dad said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

                This tribalism is about to destroy this whole frigging thing.

                It's not as much tribalism as media sensationalism. They want eyeballs, Truth be damned.

                And that is the truth.

                But they apply the tribal spin to get those eyeballs. If we were better viewers and consumers of media, we wouldn’t be in this situation and the media wouldn’t be as bad as it is.

                And that does apply to both sides. One side may be more extreme about it, but that doesn’t absolve the other.

                The Brad

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                • L LuFins Dad
                  21 Nov 2021, 18:00

                  @mik said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

                  @jolly said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

                  @lufins-dad said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

                  This tribalism is about to destroy this whole frigging thing.

                  It's not as much tribalism as media sensationalism. They want eyeballs, Truth be damned.

                  And that is the truth.

                  But they apply the tribal spin to get those eyeballs. If we were better viewers and consumers of media, we wouldn’t be in this situation and the media wouldn’t be as bad as it is.

                  And that does apply to both sides. One side may be more extreme about it, but that doesn’t absolve the other.

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                  Horace
                  wrote on 21 Nov 2021, 18:22 last edited by Horace
                  #72

                  @lufins-dad said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

                  @mik said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

                  @jolly said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

                  @lufins-dad said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

                  This tribalism is about to destroy this whole frigging thing.

                  It's not as much tribalism as media sensationalism. They want eyeballs, Truth be damned.

                  And that is the truth.

                  But they apply the tribal spin to get those eyeballs. If we were better viewers and consumers of media, we wouldn’t be in this situation and the media wouldn’t be as bad as it is.

                  It's not just the CNNs and MSNBCs of the world. Fictitious leftist narratives are propagated everywhere from TV to movies to music to the classroom, grade one through university. But those reacting against "critical race theory" are just whatabouted out of the conversation, as if they're just as bad as the other tribe. Because they're reacting against total cultural domination of fictitious and destructive narratives. There's no way humans are going to be able to discard the nonsense out of the overwhelming tide of fiction they're fed from birth. That's not how humans operate.

                  And that does apply to both sides. One side may be more extreme about it, but that doesn’t absolve the other.

                  Well, it's about triaging the problems.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • H Horace
                    21 Nov 2021, 18:22

                    @lufins-dad said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

                    @mik said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

                    @jolly said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

                    @lufins-dad said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

                    This tribalism is about to destroy this whole frigging thing.

                    It's not as much tribalism as media sensationalism. They want eyeballs, Truth be damned.

                    And that is the truth.

                    But they apply the tribal spin to get those eyeballs. If we were better viewers and consumers of media, we wouldn’t be in this situation and the media wouldn’t be as bad as it is.

                    It's not just the CNNs and MSNBCs of the world. Fictitious leftist narratives are propagated everywhere from TV to movies to music to the classroom, grade one through university. But those reacting against "critical race theory" are just whatabouted out of the conversation, as if they're just as bad as the other tribe. Because they're reacting against total cultural domination of fictitious and destructive narratives. There's no way humans are going to be able to discard the nonsense out of the overwhelming tide of fiction they're fed from birth. That's not how humans operate.

                    And that does apply to both sides. One side may be more extreme about it, but that doesn’t absolve the other.

                    Well, it's about triaging the problems.

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                    LuFins Dad
                    wrote on 21 Nov 2021, 18:33 last edited by
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                    @horace said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

                    critical race theory

                    There is no equivalence there, CRT has been and is being promoted in schools. Oh, it might not be the exact same legal theory as proposed in Law Schools, but it is still based on the same “Antiracist, white fragility” crap, and the problem is that a milder version of the same curriculum has been in the schools for a generation without us realizing it. That’s why there is such a huge disconnect.

                    The Brad

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                    • L LuFins Dad
                      21 Nov 2021, 18:33

                      @horace said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

                      critical race theory

                      There is no equivalence there, CRT has been and is being promoted in schools. Oh, it might not be the exact same legal theory as proposed in Law Schools, but it is still based on the same “Antiracist, white fragility” crap, and the problem is that a milder version of the same curriculum has been in the schools for a generation without us realizing it. That’s why there is such a huge disconnect.

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                      Aqua Letifer
                      wrote on 21 Nov 2021, 18:35 last edited by
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                      @lufins-dad said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

                      @horace said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

                      critical race theory

                      There is no equivalence there, CRT has been and is being promoted in schools. Oh, it might not be the exact same legal theory as proposed in Law Schools, but it is still based on the same “Antiracist, white fragility” crap, and the problem is that a milder version of the same curriculum has been in the schools for a generation without us realizing it. That’s why there is such a huge disconnect.

                      Ask me why I got my humanities Master's overseas.

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                      This shit.

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                      Please love yourself.

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on 21 Nov 2021, 18:49 last edited by
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                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                          Mik
                          wrote on 21 Nov 2021, 19:11 last edited by
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                          well, they wanted to be black, anyway.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            Copper
                            wrote on 21 Nov 2021, 19:11 last edited by
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                            We are all black.

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                              Mik
                              wrote on 21 Nov 2021, 19:15 last edited by
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                              Some heroes.

                              http://kenoshacountyeye.com/2021/02/12/anthony-huber-he-wasnt-a-hero-opinion/

                              https://www.wisconsinrightnow.com/2021/03/11/joseph-rosenbaum-sex-offender/

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                Mik
                                wrote on 21 Nov 2021, 20:11 last edited by
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                                Norfolk VA cop fired because he anonymously donated $25 to Rittenhouse defense fund. He should end up with a big settlement if the facts are as he states.

                                https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/virginia-cop-terminated-for-donating-to-rittenhouse-defense/vi-AAQXQWC?ocid=msedgntp

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                • D Doctor Phibes
                                  21 Nov 2021, 16:29

                                  @jolly said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

                                  @lufins-dad said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

                                  This tribalism is about to destroy this whole frigging thing.

                                  It's not as much tribalism as media sensationalism. They want eyeballs, Truth be damned.

                                  At the danger of repeating myself once again, the US needs to tighten up the laws regarding the reporting of criminal cases.

                                  Journalists who attempt to follow a juror home should go to jail.

                                  Taking cameras out of the court room wouldn’t hurt, either. The media and a lot of the public are treating this like reality TV.

                                  Complaining isn’t going to fix this.

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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on 21 Nov 2021, 20:50 last edited by Jolly
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                                  @doctor-phibes said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

                                  @jolly said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

                                  @lufins-dad said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

                                  This tribalism is about to destroy this whole frigging thing.

                                  It's not as much tribalism as media sensationalism. They want eyeballs, Truth be damned.

                                  At the danger of repeating myself once again, the US needs to tighten up the laws regarding the reporting of criminal cases.

                                  Journalists who attempt to follow a juror home should go to jail.

                                  Taking cameras out of the court room wouldn’t hurt, either. The media and a lot of the public are treating this like reality TV.

                                  Complaining isn’t going to fix this.

                                  I agree with you. I'd also like to see the defendant's name not released until after the trial is over.

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on 21 Nov 2021, 21:23 last edited by
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                                    No more crossing state lines.

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                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • A Aqua Letifer
                                      21 Nov 2021, 18:35

                                      @lufins-dad said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

                                      @horace said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

                                      critical race theory

                                      There is no equivalence there, CRT has been and is being promoted in schools. Oh, it might not be the exact same legal theory as proposed in Law Schools, but it is still based on the same “Antiracist, white fragility” crap, and the problem is that a milder version of the same curriculum has been in the schools for a generation without us realizing it. That’s why there is such a huge disconnect.

                                      Ask me why I got my humanities Master's overseas.

                                      :::

                                      This shit.

                                      :::

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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on 21 Nov 2021, 23:15 last edited by
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                                      @aqua-letifer said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

                                      @lufins-dad said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

                                      @horace said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

                                      critical race theory

                                      There is no equivalence there, CRT has been and is being promoted in schools. Oh, it might not be the exact same legal theory as proposed in Law Schools, but it is still based on the same “Antiracist, white fragility” crap, and the problem is that a milder version of the same curriculum has been in the schools for a generation without us realizing it. That’s why there is such a huge disconnect.

                                      Ask me why I got my humanities Master's overseas.

                                      :::

                                      This shit.

                                      :::

                                      Hot Aussie wimmenz?

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • J Jolly
                                        21 Nov 2021, 23:15

                                        @aqua-letifer said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

                                        @lufins-dad said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

                                        @horace said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

                                        critical race theory

                                        There is no equivalence there, CRT has been and is being promoted in schools. Oh, it might not be the exact same legal theory as proposed in Law Schools, but it is still based on the same “Antiracist, white fragility” crap, and the problem is that a milder version of the same curriculum has been in the schools for a generation without us realizing it. That’s why there is such a huge disconnect.

                                        Ask me why I got my humanities Master's overseas.

                                        :::

                                        This shit.

                                        :::

                                        Hot Aussie wimmenz?

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                                        Aqua Letifer
                                        wrote on 21 Nov 2021, 23:17 last edited by
                                        #83

                                        @jolly said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

                                        Hot Aussie wimmenz?

                                        Well, there is that. 😄

                                        But also far less liberal poisoning in the universities.

                                        Please love yourself.

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                                          George K
                                          wrote on 21 Nov 2021, 23:18 last edited by
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                                          The ELCA (Evangelical Lutheran Church of America) posted a Pastoral Letter)

                                          11/19/2021 4:00:00 PM

                                          ​Dear church,

                                          In the book of Leviticus we read: "You shall not render an unjust judgment; you shall not be partial to the poor or defer to the great: with justice you shall judge your neighbor" (19:15).

                                          Our social message on Community Violence urges us to become more involved in countering the reality and fear of violence in our communities and our neighbors' communities, pursuing justice and seeking peace no matter how long the journey or complex the challenge.

                                          When a child is allowed to become a vigilante without recourse, we are forced to confront the idols of our society: guns, violence and white supremacy. To be sure, this is not about one person, but indeed about all of us, together.

                                          Today's acquittal is an injustice. It points to the disorder in which we all live. As we seek to restore justice; so also will we restore God to God's rightful place at the center of our life together.

                                          In Christ,

                                          The Rev. Elizabeth A. Eaton
                                          Presiding Bishop
                                          Evangelical Lutheran Church in America

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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