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  • JollyJ Jolly

    @lufins-dad said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

    This tribalism is about to destroy this whole frigging thing.

    It's not as much tribalism as media sensationalism. They want eyeballs, Truth be damned.

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    @jolly said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

    @lufins-dad said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

    This tribalism is about to destroy this whole frigging thing.

    It's not as much tribalism as media sensationalism. They want eyeballs, Truth be damned.

    And that is the truth.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

      @horace said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

      It seems unrealistic to think anything is going to “fix” this. The left is content to be overtly tribal in the service of their full stop stance against racism, and the right has a choice to join them so that all their acquaintances know they are not racist, or continue to side politically with the right while being not racist but thought of as such. At least it beats joining them.

      The end result is actual racism.

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      Horace
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      @lufins-dad said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

      @horace said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

      It seems unrealistic to think anything is going to “fix” this. The left is content to be overtly tribal in the service of their full stop stance against racism, and the right has a choice to join them so that all their acquaintances know they are not racist, or continue to side politically with the right while being not racist but thought of as such. At least it beats joining them.

      The end result is actual racism.

      Yup. McWhorter wrote a book about it. The ideas therein are our best hope at shaming the masses of indoctrinated idiots away from their indoctrination.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        @lufins-dad said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

        This tribalism is about to destroy this whole frigging thing.

        It's not as much tribalism as media sensationalism. They want eyeballs, Truth be damned.

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        Horace
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        @jolly said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

        @lufins-dad said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

        This tribalism is about to destroy this whole frigging thing.

        It's not as much tribalism as media sensationalism. They want eyeballs, Truth be damned.

        A train wreck might get some eyeballs, but train wrecks don't make people feel good about themselves, unless they can somehow blame their tribe's enemy for it. The eyeballs are attracted to corporate media mostly because the media is in service of the tribalism. And tribalism is effective because it relates directly to meaning in a person's life. It reinforces their belief that they are on right side of history.

        Education is extremely important.

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        • MikM Mik

          @jolly said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

          @lufins-dad said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

          This tribalism is about to destroy this whole frigging thing.

          It's not as much tribalism as media sensationalism. They want eyeballs, Truth be damned.

          And that is the truth.

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          LuFins Dad
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          #71

          @mik said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

          @jolly said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

          @lufins-dad said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

          This tribalism is about to destroy this whole frigging thing.

          It's not as much tribalism as media sensationalism. They want eyeballs, Truth be damned.

          And that is the truth.

          But they apply the tribal spin to get those eyeballs. If we were better viewers and consumers of media, we wouldn’t be in this situation and the media wouldn’t be as bad as it is.

          And that does apply to both sides. One side may be more extreme about it, but that doesn’t absolve the other.

          The Brad

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          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

            @mik said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

            @jolly said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

            @lufins-dad said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

            This tribalism is about to destroy this whole frigging thing.

            It's not as much tribalism as media sensationalism. They want eyeballs, Truth be damned.

            And that is the truth.

            But they apply the tribal spin to get those eyeballs. If we were better viewers and consumers of media, we wouldn’t be in this situation and the media wouldn’t be as bad as it is.

            And that does apply to both sides. One side may be more extreme about it, but that doesn’t absolve the other.

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            Horace
            wrote on last edited by Horace
            #72

            @lufins-dad said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

            @mik said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

            @jolly said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

            @lufins-dad said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

            This tribalism is about to destroy this whole frigging thing.

            It's not as much tribalism as media sensationalism. They want eyeballs, Truth be damned.

            And that is the truth.

            But they apply the tribal spin to get those eyeballs. If we were better viewers and consumers of media, we wouldn’t be in this situation and the media wouldn’t be as bad as it is.

            It's not just the CNNs and MSNBCs of the world. Fictitious leftist narratives are propagated everywhere from TV to movies to music to the classroom, grade one through university. But those reacting against "critical race theory" are just whatabouted out of the conversation, as if they're just as bad as the other tribe. Because they're reacting against total cultural domination of fictitious and destructive narratives. There's no way humans are going to be able to discard the nonsense out of the overwhelming tide of fiction they're fed from birth. That's not how humans operate.

            And that does apply to both sides. One side may be more extreme about it, but that doesn’t absolve the other.

            Well, it's about triaging the problems.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • HoraceH Horace

              @lufins-dad said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

              @mik said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

              @jolly said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

              @lufins-dad said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

              This tribalism is about to destroy this whole frigging thing.

              It's not as much tribalism as media sensationalism. They want eyeballs, Truth be damned.

              And that is the truth.

              But they apply the tribal spin to get those eyeballs. If we were better viewers and consumers of media, we wouldn’t be in this situation and the media wouldn’t be as bad as it is.

              It's not just the CNNs and MSNBCs of the world. Fictitious leftist narratives are propagated everywhere from TV to movies to music to the classroom, grade one through university. But those reacting against "critical race theory" are just whatabouted out of the conversation, as if they're just as bad as the other tribe. Because they're reacting against total cultural domination of fictitious and destructive narratives. There's no way humans are going to be able to discard the nonsense out of the overwhelming tide of fiction they're fed from birth. That's not how humans operate.

              And that does apply to both sides. One side may be more extreme about it, but that doesn’t absolve the other.

              Well, it's about triaging the problems.

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              LuFins Dad
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              @horace said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

              critical race theory

              There is no equivalence there, CRT has been and is being promoted in schools. Oh, it might not be the exact same legal theory as proposed in Law Schools, but it is still based on the same “Antiracist, white fragility” crap, and the problem is that a milder version of the same curriculum has been in the schools for a generation without us realizing it. That’s why there is such a huge disconnect.

              The Brad

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              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                @horace said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

                critical race theory

                There is no equivalence there, CRT has been and is being promoted in schools. Oh, it might not be the exact same legal theory as proposed in Law Schools, but it is still based on the same “Antiracist, white fragility” crap, and the problem is that a milder version of the same curriculum has been in the schools for a generation without us realizing it. That’s why there is such a huge disconnect.

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                Aqua Letifer
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                #74

                @lufins-dad said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

                @horace said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

                critical race theory

                There is no equivalence there, CRT has been and is being promoted in schools. Oh, it might not be the exact same legal theory as proposed in Law Schools, but it is still based on the same “Antiracist, white fragility” crap, and the problem is that a milder version of the same curriculum has been in the schools for a generation without us realizing it. That’s why there is such a huge disconnect.

                Ask me why I got my humanities Master's overseas.

                :::

                This shit.

                :::

                Please love yourself.

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                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                    well, they wanted to be black, anyway.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      We are all black.

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                        Some heroes.

                        http://kenoshacountyeye.com/2021/02/12/anthony-huber-he-wasnt-a-hero-opinion/

                        https://www.wisconsinrightnow.com/2021/03/11/joseph-rosenbaum-sex-offender/

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          Norfolk VA cop fired because he anonymously donated $25 to Rittenhouse defense fund. He should end up with a big settlement if the facts are as he states.

                          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/virginia-cop-terminated-for-donating-to-rittenhouse-defense/vi-AAQXQWC?ocid=msedgntp

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                            @jolly said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

                            @lufins-dad said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

                            This tribalism is about to destroy this whole frigging thing.

                            It's not as much tribalism as media sensationalism. They want eyeballs, Truth be damned.

                            At the danger of repeating myself once again, the US needs to tighten up the laws regarding the reporting of criminal cases.

                            Journalists who attempt to follow a juror home should go to jail.

                            Taking cameras out of the court room wouldn’t hurt, either. The media and a lot of the public are treating this like reality TV.

                            Complaining isn’t going to fix this.

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                            Jolly
                            wrote on last edited by Jolly
                            #80

                            @doctor-phibes said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

                            @jolly said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

                            @lufins-dad said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

                            This tribalism is about to destroy this whole frigging thing.

                            It's not as much tribalism as media sensationalism. They want eyeballs, Truth be damned.

                            At the danger of repeating myself once again, the US needs to tighten up the laws regarding the reporting of criminal cases.

                            Journalists who attempt to follow a juror home should go to jail.

                            Taking cameras out of the court room wouldn’t hurt, either. The media and a lot of the public are treating this like reality TV.

                            Complaining isn’t going to fix this.

                            I agree with you. I'd also like to see the defendant's name not released until after the trial is over.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              George K
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                              No more crossing state lines.

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                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                @lufins-dad said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

                                @horace said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

                                critical race theory

                                There is no equivalence there, CRT has been and is being promoted in schools. Oh, it might not be the exact same legal theory as proposed in Law Schools, but it is still based on the same “Antiracist, white fragility” crap, and the problem is that a milder version of the same curriculum has been in the schools for a generation without us realizing it. That’s why there is such a huge disconnect.

                                Ask me why I got my humanities Master's overseas.

                                :::

                                This shit.

                                :::

                                JollyJ Offline
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                                Jolly
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #82

                                @aqua-letifer said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

                                @lufins-dad said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

                                @horace said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

                                critical race theory

                                There is no equivalence there, CRT has been and is being promoted in schools. Oh, it might not be the exact same legal theory as proposed in Law Schools, but it is still based on the same “Antiracist, white fragility” crap, and the problem is that a milder version of the same curriculum has been in the schools for a generation without us realizing it. That’s why there is such a huge disconnect.

                                Ask me why I got my humanities Master's overseas.

                                :::

                                This shit.

                                :::

                                Hot Aussie wimmenz?

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • JollyJ Jolly

                                  @aqua-letifer said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

                                  @lufins-dad said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

                                  @horace said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

                                  critical race theory

                                  There is no equivalence there, CRT has been and is being promoted in schools. Oh, it might not be the exact same legal theory as proposed in Law Schools, but it is still based on the same “Antiracist, white fragility” crap, and the problem is that a milder version of the same curriculum has been in the schools for a generation without us realizing it. That’s why there is such a huge disconnect.

                                  Ask me why I got my humanities Master's overseas.

                                  :::

                                  This shit.

                                  :::

                                  Hot Aussie wimmenz?

                                  Aqua LetiferA Offline
                                  Aqua LetiferA Offline
                                  Aqua Letifer
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                                  #83

                                  @jolly said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

                                  Hot Aussie wimmenz?

                                  Well, there is that. 😄

                                  But also far less liberal poisoning in the universities.

                                  Please love yourself.

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                                    The ELCA (Evangelical Lutheran Church of America) posted a Pastoral Letter)

                                    11/19/2021 4:00:00 PM

                                    ​Dear church,

                                    In the book of Leviticus we read: "You shall not render an unjust judgment; you shall not be partial to the poor or defer to the great: with justice you shall judge your neighbor" (19:15).

                                    Our social message on Community Violence urges us to become more involved in countering the reality and fear of violence in our communities and our neighbors' communities, pursuing justice and seeking peace no matter how long the journey or complex the challenge.

                                    When a child is allowed to become a vigilante without recourse, we are forced to confront the idols of our society: guns, violence and white supremacy. To be sure, this is not about one person, but indeed about all of us, together.

                                    Today's acquittal is an injustice. It points to the disorder in which we all live. As we seek to restore justice; so also will we restore God to God's rightful place at the center of our life together.

                                    In Christ,

                                    The Rev. Elizabeth A. Eaton
                                    Presiding Bishop
                                    Evangelical Lutheran Church in America

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • George KG George K

                                      The ELCA (Evangelical Lutheran Church of America) posted a Pastoral Letter)

                                      11/19/2021 4:00:00 PM

                                      ​Dear church,

                                      In the book of Leviticus we read: "You shall not render an unjust judgment; you shall not be partial to the poor or defer to the great: with justice you shall judge your neighbor" (19:15).

                                      Our social message on Community Violence urges us to become more involved in countering the reality and fear of violence in our communities and our neighbors' communities, pursuing justice and seeking peace no matter how long the journey or complex the challenge.

                                      When a child is allowed to become a vigilante without recourse, we are forced to confront the idols of our society: guns, violence and white supremacy. To be sure, this is not about one person, but indeed about all of us, together.

                                      Today's acquittal is an injustice. It points to the disorder in which we all live. As we seek to restore justice; so also will we restore God to God's rightful place at the center of our life together.

                                      In Christ,

                                      The Rev. Elizabeth A. Eaton
                                      Presiding Bishop
                                      Evangelical Lutheran Church in America

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                                      Jolly
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                                      @george-k said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

                                      The ELCA (Evangelical Lutheran Church of America) posted a Pastoral Letter)

                                      11/19/2021 4:00:00 PM

                                      ​Dear church,

                                      In the book of Leviticus we read: "You shall not render an unjust judgment; you shall not be partial to the poor or defer to the great: with justice you shall judge your neighbor" (19:15).

                                      Our social message on Community Violence urges us to become more involved in countering the reality and fear of violence in our communities and our neighbors' communities, pursuing justice and seeking peace no matter how long the journey or complex the challenge.

                                      When a child is allowed to become a vigilante without recourse, we are forced to confront the idols of our society: guns, violence and white supremacy. To be sure, this is not about one person, but indeed about all of us, together.

                                      Today's acquittal is an injustice. It points to the disorder in which we all live. As we seek to restore justice; so also will we restore God to God's rightful place at the center of our life together.

                                      In Christ,

                                      The Rev. Elizabeth A. Eaton
                                      Presiding Bishop
                                      Evangelical Lutheran Church in America

                                      I think God would say the reverend takes a lot on himself...

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • JollyJ Jolly

                                        @george-k said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

                                        The ELCA (Evangelical Lutheran Church of America) posted a Pastoral Letter)

                                        11/19/2021 4:00:00 PM

                                        ​Dear church,

                                        In the book of Leviticus we read: "You shall not render an unjust judgment; you shall not be partial to the poor or defer to the great: with justice you shall judge your neighbor" (19:15).

                                        Our social message on Community Violence urges us to become more involved in countering the reality and fear of violence in our communities and our neighbors' communities, pursuing justice and seeking peace no matter how long the journey or complex the challenge.

                                        When a child is allowed to become a vigilante without recourse, we are forced to confront the idols of our society: guns, violence and white supremacy. To be sure, this is not about one person, but indeed about all of us, together.

                                        Today's acquittal is an injustice. It points to the disorder in which we all live. As we seek to restore justice; so also will we restore God to God's rightful place at the center of our life together.

                                        In Christ,

                                        The Rev. Elizabeth A. Eaton
                                        Presiding Bishop
                                        Evangelical Lutheran Church in America

                                        I think God would say the reverend takes a lot on himself...

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                                        @jolly said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

                                        I think God would say the reverend takes a lot on himself...

                                        Ahem...HERself.

                                        Get with it, redneck.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        • JollyJ Jolly

                                          @george-k said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

                                          The ELCA (Evangelical Lutheran Church of America) posted a Pastoral Letter)

                                          11/19/2021 4:00:00 PM

                                          ​Dear church,

                                          In the book of Leviticus we read: "You shall not render an unjust judgment; you shall not be partial to the poor or defer to the great: with justice you shall judge your neighbor" (19:15).

                                          Our social message on Community Violence urges us to become more involved in countering the reality and fear of violence in our communities and our neighbors' communities, pursuing justice and seeking peace no matter how long the journey or complex the challenge.

                                          When a child is allowed to become a vigilante without recourse, we are forced to confront the idols of our society: guns, violence and white supremacy. To be sure, this is not about one person, but indeed about all of us, together.

                                          Today's acquittal is an injustice. It points to the disorder in which we all live. As we seek to restore justice; so also will we restore God to God's rightful place at the center of our life together.

                                          In Christ,

                                          The Rev. Elizabeth A. Eaton
                                          Presiding Bishop
                                          Evangelical Lutheran Church in America

                                          I think God would say the reverend takes a lot on himself...

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                                          Jolly
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                                          #87

                                          @jolly said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

                                          @george-k said in Rittenhouse verdict - how will America react?:

                                          The ELCA (Evangelical Lutheran Church of America) posted a Pastoral Letter)

                                          11/19/2021 4:00:00 PM

                                          ​Dear church,

                                          In the book of Leviticus we read: "You shall not render an unjust judgment; you shall not be partial to the poor or defer to the great: with justice you shall judge your neighbor" (19:15).

                                          Our social message on Community Violence urges us to become more involved in countering the reality and fear of violence in our communities and our neighbors' communities, pursuing justice and seeking peace no matter how long the journey or complex the challenge.

                                          When a child is allowed to become a vigilante without recourse, we are forced to confront the idols of our society: guns, violence and white supremacy. To be sure, this is not about one person, but indeed about all of us, together.

                                          Today's acquittal is an injustice. It points to the disorder in which we all live. As we seek to restore justice; so also will we restore God to God's rightful place at the center of our life together.

                                          In Christ,

                                          The Rev. Elizabeth A. Eaton
                                          Presiding Bishop
                                          Evangelical Lutheran Church in America

                                          I think God would say the reverend takes a lot on himself...

                                          I'm a recovering Baptist. Women have no business in the pulpit. If God doesn't delineate that role for them, who am I to argue?

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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