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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    jon-nyc
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    Sweet. Hope it’s retroactive to 2021

    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
    -Cormac McCarthy

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    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

      Sweet. Hope it’s retroactive to 2021

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      George K
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      #3

      @jon-nyc said in SALT:

      Sweet. Hope it’s retroactive to 2021

      Somehow, I just knew you'd be first, LOL.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        #4

        My property taxes are creeping up to 40k, only 10k is deductible. If they let me deduct it all that’s a nice 10k boost on the margin.

        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
        -Cormac McCarthy

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          My property taxes are creeping up to 40k, only 10k is deductible. If they let me deduct it all that’s a nice 10k boost on the margin.

          George KG Offline
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          George K
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          #5

          @jon-nyc said in SALT:

          only 10k is deductible

          Yeah, if you can exceed the standard deduction...

          For us that's about $25K.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • jon-nycJ Offline
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            #6

            We’ll the property tax alone exceeds the standard deduction. But I didn’t take that into account.

            But I’d suddenly be able to deduct charitable contributions again, or rather it would make sense to. So my deductions would be ~50k ish rather than 24k ish. Net savings in the neighborhood of 10k still.

            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
            -Cormac McCarthy

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            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              We’ll the property tax alone exceeds the standard deduction. But I didn’t take that into account.

              But I’d suddenly be able to deduct charitable contributions again, or rather it would make sense to. So my deductions would be ~50k ish rather than 24k ish. Net savings in the neighborhood of 10k still.

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              George K
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              @jon-nyc said in SALT:

              deduct charitable contributions

              Is there a cap for charitable contributions for 2021?

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                Not really, it’s just that my only deduction I get is the 10k limit of my property tax. So unless I donate >14k in a year the it makes sense to take the standard deduction. I donate just under that typically. So when they were about to change the law in 2018 I made a (tax deductible) multi-year equivalent deduction to a donor-advised fund which I now use for donations. If they change the law I could start donating out of personal funds again and take the full deduction, since my property tax alone gets me above standard deduction territory.

                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                -Cormac McCarthy

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                • George KG Offline
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                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • MikM Away
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                    Mik
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                    #10

                    Yep. Met with my financial guy today to work on whether or not to do Roth conversions. Doesn't look like it will make much sense for us. But the charitable contribution deduction (QCD) against the RMD might help when we hit that in a few years.
                    .

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      My property taxes are creeping up to 40k, only 10k is deductible. If they let me deduct it all that’s a nice 10k boost on the margin.

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                      @jon-nyc said in SALT:

                      My property taxes are creeping up to 40k, only 10k is deductible. If they let me deduct it all that’s a nice 10k boost on the margin.

                      Dude, you're wiping your butt with twenties and lighting cigars with Benjamins. Don't sweat the small stuff...😄😄

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        jon-nyc
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                        #12

                        If I’m reading it right, the new provision being voted on today is an 80k deduction limit and it covers this year!

                        Yay!

                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                        -Cormac McCarthy

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                          LuFins Dad
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                          Was the SALT part of the infrastructure package? Or is it part of the 1.75 Trillion Dollar Sweepstakes?

                          The Brad

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                            jon-nyc
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                            The latter.

                            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                            -Cormac McCarthy

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                              So it still has to get past the Senate.

                              The Brad

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                                jon-nyc
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                                Yeah but they've been working on Manchin and Sinema through the process so I think the understanding is it'll get through.

                                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                -Cormac McCarthy

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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                  My property taxes are creeping up to 40k, only 10k is deductible. If they let me deduct it all that’s a nice 10k boost on the margin.

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                                  @jon-nyc said in SALT:

                                  My property taxes are creeping up to 40k

                                  I wouldn't be surprised if there are people in your area who live in a trailer park but drive a Porsche. I wonder what kinds of incentives are caused by such massive property taxes, as opposed to collecting the same money via income tax or VAT.

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                                  • MikM Away
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                                    Mik
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                                    I do not believe you will find any trailer parks in Jon's neighborhood. Nor in the surrounding area.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      For miles.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • MikM Away
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                                        Mik
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                                        But I do believe the GOP will be campaigning all over this one.

                                        https://www.newsweek.com/congratulations-democrats-you-just-passed-massive-tax-cut-rich-opinion-1651262

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        • MikM Mik

                                          But I do believe the GOP will be campaigning all over this one.

                                          https://www.newsweek.com/congratulations-democrats-you-just-passed-massive-tax-cut-rich-opinion-1651262

                                          jon-nycJ Offline
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                                          jon-nyc
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                                          @mik said in SALT:

                                          But I do believe the GOP will be campaigning all over this one.

                                          https://www.newsweek.com/congratulations-democrats-you-just-passed-massive-tax-cut-rich-opinion-1651262

                                          Congratulations indeed!!!!

                                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                          -Cormac McCarthy

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