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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    jon-nyc
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    #4

    My property taxes are creeping up to 40k, only 10k is deductible. If they let me deduct it all that’s a nice 10k boost on the margin.

    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
    -Cormac McCarthy

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    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

      My property taxes are creeping up to 40k, only 10k is deductible. If they let me deduct it all that’s a nice 10k boost on the margin.

      George KG Offline
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      George K
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      #5

      @jon-nyc said in SALT:

      only 10k is deductible

      Yeah, if you can exceed the standard deduction...

      For us that's about $25K.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • jon-nycJ Online
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        jon-nyc
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        #6

        We’ll the property tax alone exceeds the standard deduction. But I didn’t take that into account.

        But I’d suddenly be able to deduct charitable contributions again, or rather it would make sense to. So my deductions would be ~50k ish rather than 24k ish. Net savings in the neighborhood of 10k still.

        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
        -Cormac McCarthy

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          We’ll the property tax alone exceeds the standard deduction. But I didn’t take that into account.

          But I’d suddenly be able to deduct charitable contributions again, or rather it would make sense to. So my deductions would be ~50k ish rather than 24k ish. Net savings in the neighborhood of 10k still.

          George KG Offline
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          George K
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          #7

          @jon-nyc said in SALT:

          deduct charitable contributions

          Is there a cap for charitable contributions for 2021?

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • jon-nycJ Online
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            jon-nyc
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            #8

            Not really, it’s just that my only deduction I get is the 10k limit of my property tax. So unless I donate >14k in a year the it makes sense to take the standard deduction. I donate just under that typically. So when they were about to change the law in 2018 I made a (tax deductible) multi-year equivalent deduction to a donor-advised fund which I now use for donations. If they change the law I could start donating out of personal funds again and take the full deduction, since my property tax alone gets me above standard deduction territory.

            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
            -Cormac McCarthy

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              George K
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              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • MikM Away
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                Mik
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                #10

                Yep. Met with my financial guy today to work on whether or not to do Roth conversions. Doesn't look like it will make much sense for us. But the charitable contribution deduction (QCD) against the RMD might help when we hit that in a few years.
                .

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  My property taxes are creeping up to 40k, only 10k is deductible. If they let me deduct it all that’s a nice 10k boost on the margin.

                  JollyJ Offline
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                  Jolly
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                  #11

                  @jon-nyc said in SALT:

                  My property taxes are creeping up to 40k, only 10k is deductible. If they let me deduct it all that’s a nice 10k boost on the margin.

                  Dude, you're wiping your butt with twenties and lighting cigars with Benjamins. Don't sweat the small stuff...😄😄

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • jon-nycJ Online
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                    jon-nyc
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                    #12

                    If I’m reading it right, the new provision being voted on today is an 80k deduction limit and it covers this year!

                    Yay!

                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                    • LuFins DadL Offline
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                      LuFins Dad
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                      #13

                      Was the SALT part of the infrastructure package? Or is it part of the 1.75 Trillion Dollar Sweepstakes?

                      The Brad

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                      • jon-nycJ Online
                        jon-nycJ Online
                        jon-nyc
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                        #14

                        The latter.

                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                        -Cormac McCarthy

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                        • LuFins DadL Offline
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                          LuFins Dad
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                          #15

                          So it still has to get past the Senate.

                          The Brad

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                          • jon-nycJ Online
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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #16

                            Yeah but they've been working on Manchin and Sinema through the process so I think the understanding is it'll get through.

                            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                            -Cormac McCarthy

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                            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                              My property taxes are creeping up to 40k, only 10k is deductible. If they let me deduct it all that’s a nice 10k boost on the margin.

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                              @jon-nyc said in SALT:

                              My property taxes are creeping up to 40k

                              I wouldn't be surprised if there are people in your area who live in a trailer park but drive a Porsche. I wonder what kinds of incentives are caused by such massive property taxes, as opposed to collecting the same money via income tax or VAT.

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                              • MikM Away
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                                Mik
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                                I do not believe you will find any trailer parks in Jon's neighborhood. Nor in the surrounding area.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  For miles.

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  • MikM Away
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                                    Mik
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                                    But I do believe the GOP will be campaigning all over this one.

                                    https://www.newsweek.com/congratulations-democrats-you-just-passed-massive-tax-cut-rich-opinion-1651262

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    • MikM Mik

                                      But I do believe the GOP will be campaigning all over this one.

                                      https://www.newsweek.com/congratulations-democrats-you-just-passed-massive-tax-cut-rich-opinion-1651262

                                      jon-nycJ Online
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                                      jon-nyc
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #21

                                      @mik said in SALT:

                                      But I do believe the GOP will be campaigning all over this one.

                                      https://www.newsweek.com/congratulations-democrats-you-just-passed-massive-tax-cut-rich-opinion-1651262

                                      Congratulations indeed!!!!

                                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                      -Cormac McCarthy

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                                        No surprise it passed the House.

                                        The Senate may be a different story.

                                        We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
                                        Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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                                          taiwan_girl
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                                          https://www.axios.com/2024/09/18/trump-salt-tax-cuts-senate

                                          Trump's surprise post on SALT deductions Tuesday has forced Senate Republicans into a pickle: contradict their party's leader or their old positions.

                                          Why it matters: For Republican leaders, it's a taste of what's to come if Trump wins back the White House.
                                          They'll have to harmonize their own positions — in real time — with a president who is constantly changing his.
                                          Trump posted he would "get SALT back."

                                          That's a strong indication he wants to let those in high-tax states deduct more than $10,000 from their federal taxes — a limit he championed in his 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act

                                          and

                                          The bottom line: Removing the $10,000 SALT cap would cost an estimated $1.2 trillion over a decade, according to the Committee for a Responsible Federal Government.
                                          An estimated 92% of the benefit would go to the top 10% of earners, according to CRFB.

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