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    George K
    wrote on 13 Nov 2021, 22:04 last edited by
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    They told me if I voted for Donald Trump, the rich would get tax breaks, and they were right.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 14 Nov 2021, 00:18 last edited by
      #2

      Sweet. Hope it’s retroactive to 2021

      Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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      • J jon-nyc
        14 Nov 2021, 00:18

        Sweet. Hope it’s retroactive to 2021

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        George K
        wrote on 14 Nov 2021, 00:29 last edited by
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        @jon-nyc said in SALT:

        Sweet. Hope it’s retroactive to 2021

        Somehow, I just knew you'd be first, LOL.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          jon-nyc
          wrote on 14 Nov 2021, 00:42 last edited by
          #4

          My property taxes are creeping up to 40k, only 10k is deductible. If they let me deduct it all that’s a nice 10k boost on the margin.

          Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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          • J jon-nyc
            14 Nov 2021, 00:42

            My property taxes are creeping up to 40k, only 10k is deductible. If they let me deduct it all that’s a nice 10k boost on the margin.

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            George K
            wrote on 14 Nov 2021, 00:45 last edited by
            #5

            @jon-nyc said in SALT:

            only 10k is deductible

            Yeah, if you can exceed the standard deduction...

            For us that's about $25K.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              jon-nyc
              wrote on 14 Nov 2021, 00:56 last edited by
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              We’ll the property tax alone exceeds the standard deduction. But I didn’t take that into account.

              But I’d suddenly be able to deduct charitable contributions again, or rather it would make sense to. So my deductions would be ~50k ish rather than 24k ish. Net savings in the neighborhood of 10k still.

              Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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              • J jon-nyc
                14 Nov 2021, 00:56

                We’ll the property tax alone exceeds the standard deduction. But I didn’t take that into account.

                But I’d suddenly be able to deduct charitable contributions again, or rather it would make sense to. So my deductions would be ~50k ish rather than 24k ish. Net savings in the neighborhood of 10k still.

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                George K
                wrote on 14 Nov 2021, 01:07 last edited by
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                @jon-nyc said in SALT:

                deduct charitable contributions

                Is there a cap for charitable contributions for 2021?

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on 14 Nov 2021, 01:29 last edited by
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                  Not really, it’s just that my only deduction I get is the 10k limit of my property tax. So unless I donate >14k in a year the it makes sense to take the standard deduction. I donate just under that typically. So when they were about to change the law in 2018 I made a (tax deductible) multi-year equivalent deduction to a donor-advised fund which I now use for donations. If they change the law I could start donating out of personal funds again and take the full deduction, since my property tax alone gets me above standard deduction territory.

                  Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                    George K
                    wrote on 18 Nov 2021, 18:24 last edited by
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                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      Mik
                      wrote on 18 Nov 2021, 18:48 last edited by Mik
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                      Yep. Met with my financial guy today to work on whether or not to do Roth conversions. Doesn't look like it will make much sense for us. But the charitable contribution deduction (QCD) against the RMD might help when we hit that in a few years.
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                      "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                      • J jon-nyc
                        14 Nov 2021, 00:42

                        My property taxes are creeping up to 40k, only 10k is deductible. If they let me deduct it all that’s a nice 10k boost on the margin.

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                        Jolly
                        wrote on 18 Nov 2021, 20:24 last edited by
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                        @jon-nyc said in SALT:

                        My property taxes are creeping up to 40k, only 10k is deductible. If they let me deduct it all that’s a nice 10k boost on the margin.

                        Dude, you're wiping your butt with twenties and lighting cigars with Benjamins. Don't sweat the small stuff...😄😄

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on 19 Nov 2021, 11:34 last edited by
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                          If I’m reading it right, the new provision being voted on today is an 80k deduction limit and it covers this year!

                          Yay!

                          Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                            LuFins Dad
                            wrote on 19 Nov 2021, 13:18 last edited by
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                            Was the SALT part of the infrastructure package? Or is it part of the 1.75 Trillion Dollar Sweepstakes?

                            The Brad

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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on 19 Nov 2021, 14:18 last edited by
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                              The latter.

                              Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                LuFins Dad
                                wrote on 19 Nov 2021, 14:21 last edited by
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                                So it still has to get past the Senate.

                                The Brad

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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on 19 Nov 2021, 15:22 last edited by
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                                  Yeah but they've been working on Manchin and Sinema through the process so I think the understanding is it'll get through.

                                  Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                  • J jon-nyc
                                    14 Nov 2021, 00:42

                                    My property taxes are creeping up to 40k, only 10k is deductible. If they let me deduct it all that’s a nice 10k boost on the margin.

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                                    Klaus
                                    wrote on 19 Nov 2021, 15:35 last edited by
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                                    @jon-nyc said in SALT:

                                    My property taxes are creeping up to 40k

                                    I wouldn't be surprised if there are people in your area who live in a trailer park but drive a Porsche. I wonder what kinds of incentives are caused by such massive property taxes, as opposed to collecting the same money via income tax or VAT.

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                                      Mik
                                      wrote on 19 Nov 2021, 16:05 last edited by
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                                      I do not believe you will find any trailer parks in Jon's neighborhood. Nor in the surrounding area.

                                      "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                                        Jolly
                                        wrote on 19 Nov 2021, 18:49 last edited by
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                                        For miles.

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                          Mik
                                          wrote on 19 Nov 2021, 20:30 last edited by
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                                          But I do believe the GOP will be campaigning all over this one.

                                          https://www.newsweek.com/congratulations-democrats-you-just-passed-massive-tax-cut-rich-opinion-1651262

                                          "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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