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  • MikM Offline
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    wrote on last edited by Mik
    #4

    There are situations that need to be addressed...how about the guy taking his wife to the hospital with a baby on the way? Hs driving could be a bit erratic, and stopping their car could be catastrophic.

    With BAC detection, what if a passenger is quite drunk? How will it distinguish between driver and passenger?

    A potentially good idea but with potential for harm. That it is proportionally less harm will be no comfort to those who are affected.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • LuFins DadL Offline
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        It comes down to one simple premise. The more involved the US Government is in your daily life, the worse off you are. This is government overreach.

        The Brad

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        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

          It comes down to one simple premise. The more involved the US Government is in your daily life, the worse off you are. This is government overreach.

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          @lufins-dad said in Drunk Drive Sensors To Be Required in US Cars:

          It comes down to one simple premise. The more involved the US Government is in your daily life, the worse off you are.

          Until you need something.

          Please love yourself.

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          • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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            You chaps do realise it's already illegal to drive over the limit, right?

            If they catch you now, you're fucked, and what's more you deserve to be. I know people who've suffered life changing injuries due to a drunk driver, and the driver thought he was absolutely fine.

            I was only joking

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            • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

              You chaps do realise it's already illegal to drive over the limit, right?

              If they catch you now, you're fucked, and what's more you deserve to be. I know people who've suffered life changing injuries due to a drunk driver, and the driver thought he was absolutely fine.

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              LuFins Dad
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              #9

              @doctor-phibes said in Drunk Drive Sensors To Be Required in US Cars:

              You chaps do realise it's already illegal to drive over the limit, right?

              If they catch you now, you're fucked, and what's more you deserve to be. I know people who've suffered life changing injuries due to a drunk driver, and the driver thought he was absolutely fine.

              That’s not debatable. Personally, I would approve of stiffer penalties.

              The Brad

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              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                You chaps do realise it's already illegal to drive over the limit, right?

                If they catch you now, you're fucked, and what's more you deserve to be. I know people who've suffered life changing injuries due to a drunk driver, and the driver thought he was absolutely fine.

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                Renauda
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                @doctor-phibes said in Drunk Drive Sensors To Be Required in US Cars:

                You chaps do realise it's already illegal to drive over the limit, right?

                A minor detail. Probably not to be taken seriously when personal civil liberties are involved.

                Elbows up!

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                • JollyJ Offline
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                  It's a simple choice, really.

                  Freedom vs. safety.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    It's a simple choice, really.

                    Freedom vs. safety.

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                    @jolly said in Drunk Drive Sensors To Be Required in US Cars:

                    It's a simple choice, really.

                    Freedom vs. safety.

                    The thing about impaired driving is that you're affecting other people's safety as well as your own. Your claim to freedom ends when you adversely affect my children's safety.

                    I was only joking

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                    • MikM Offline
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                      It’s really not freedom vs safety. It’s rights vs responsibilities.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        Doctor Phibes
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                        I remember a few years back a drunk driver sued the bar that served him after he got injured after falling off his stupid motorbike. What a cock.

                        I was only joking

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                          LuFins Dad
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                          Read a little more about this. It’s absurd.

                          Do any of your cars have lane departure mitigation? Our new Honda does. It’s a feature that I had to turn off because I naturally end to hug the center line. Not cross the line, but run within 2-3 feet. Where I grew up we had very narrow road lanes due to the terrain. With the lane departure mitigation on, it is always trying to correct me. According to the technology they are citing in the article, I would be pulled over and shut down. Screw that.

                          Beyond that, why not set it up for other offenses? Driving 10 MPH over the speed limit? Pull it over and shut it down… Go through a stop sign? Shut it down… Run a yellow a little too late? Here’s your ticket… Would likely save more lives than the drunk driving mitigation….

                          The Brad

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                          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                            Read a little more about this. It’s absurd.

                            Do any of your cars have lane departure mitigation? Our new Honda does. It’s a feature that I had to turn off because I naturally end to hug the center line. Not cross the line, but run within 2-3 feet. Where I grew up we had very narrow road lanes due to the terrain. With the lane departure mitigation on, it is always trying to correct me. According to the technology they are citing in the article, I would be pulled over and shut down. Screw that.

                            Beyond that, why not set it up for other offenses? Driving 10 MPH over the speed limit? Pull it over and shut it down… Go through a stop sign? Shut it down… Run a yellow a little too late? Here’s your ticket… Would likely save more lives than the drunk driving mitigation….

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                            @lufins-dad said in Drunk Drive Sensors To Be Required in US Cars:

                            Beyond that, why not set it up for other offenses? Driving 10 MPH over the speed limit? Pull it over and shut it down… Go through a stop sign? Shut it down… Run a yellow a little too late? Here’s your ticket… Would likely save more lives than the drunk driving mitigation….

                            Great ideas, thanks

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                            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                              Read a little more about this. It’s absurd.

                              Do any of your cars have lane departure mitigation? Our new Honda does. It’s a feature that I had to turn off because I naturally end to hug the center line. Not cross the line, but run within 2-3 feet. Where I grew up we had very narrow road lanes due to the terrain. With the lane departure mitigation on, it is always trying to correct me. According to the technology they are citing in the article, I would be pulled over and shut down. Screw that.

                              Beyond that, why not set it up for other offenses? Driving 10 MPH over the speed limit? Pull it over and shut it down… Go through a stop sign? Shut it down… Run a yellow a little too late? Here’s your ticket… Would likely save more lives than the drunk driving mitigation….

                              Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                              @lufins-dad said in Drunk Drive Sensors To Be Required in US Cars:

                              Read a little more about this. It’s absurd.

                              Do any of your cars have lane departure mitigation? Our new Honda does. It’s a feature that I had to turn off because I naturally end to hug the center line. Not cross the line, but run within 2-3 feet. Where I grew up we had very narrow road lanes due to the terrain. With the lane departure mitigation on, it is always trying to correct me. According to the technology they are citing in the article, I would be pulled over and shut down. Screw that.

                              Beyond that, why not set it up for other offenses? Driving 10 MPH over the speed limit? Pull it over and shut it down… Go through a stop sign? Shut it down… Run a yellow a little too late? Here’s your ticket… Would likely save more lives than the drunk driving mitigation….

                              There's been an ever increasing level of safety legislation in cars over the last few decades, and if you look at the death rates, it's worked. I'd be willing to bet that there was resistance to almost every improvement from some quarters.

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                              I was only joking

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                              • MikM Mik

                                It’s really not freedom vs safety. It’s rights vs responsibilities.

                                JollyJ Offline
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                                wrote on last edited by
                                #18

                                @mik said in Drunk Drive Sensors To Be Required in US Cars:

                                It’s really not freedom vs safety. It’s rights vs responsibilities.

                                Isn't that part of the equation?

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                  @lufins-dad said in Drunk Drive Sensors To Be Required in US Cars:

                                  Read a little more about this. It’s absurd.

                                  Do any of your cars have lane departure mitigation? Our new Honda does. It’s a feature that I had to turn off because I naturally end to hug the center line. Not cross the line, but run within 2-3 feet. Where I grew up we had very narrow road lanes due to the terrain. With the lane departure mitigation on, it is always trying to correct me. According to the technology they are citing in the article, I would be pulled over and shut down. Screw that.

                                  Beyond that, why not set it up for other offenses? Driving 10 MPH over the speed limit? Pull it over and shut it down… Go through a stop sign? Shut it down… Run a yellow a little too late? Here’s your ticket… Would likely save more lives than the drunk driving mitigation….

                                  There's been an ever increasing level of safety legislation in cars over the last few decades, and if you look at the death rates, it's worked. I'd be willing to bet that there was resistance to almost every improvement from some quarters.

                                  325547b9-eb13-4125-b930-2656ea9b68d4-image.png

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                                  LuFins Dad
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                                  @doctor-phibes said in Drunk Drive Sensors To Be Required in US Cars:

                                  @lufins-dad said in Drunk Drive Sensors To Be Required in US Cars:

                                  Read a little more about this. It’s absurd.

                                  Do any of your cars have lane departure mitigation? Our new Honda does. It’s a feature that I had to turn off because I naturally end to hug the center line. Not cross the line, but run within 2-3 feet. Where I grew up we had very narrow road lanes due to the terrain. With the lane departure mitigation on, it is always trying to correct me. According to the technology they are citing in the article, I would be pulled over and shut down. Screw that.

                                  Beyond that, why not set it up for other offenses? Driving 10 MPH over the speed limit? Pull it over and shut it down… Go through a stop sign? Shut it down… Run a yellow a little too late? Here’s your ticket… Would likely save more lives than the drunk driving mitigation….

                                  There's been an ever increasing level of safety legislation in cars over the last few decades, and if you look at the death rates, it's worked. I'd be willing to bet that there was resistance to almost every improvement from some quarters.

                                  325547b9-eb13-4125-b930-2656ea9b68d4-image.png

                                  I would say there is a massive difference between crumple zones, airbag standards, and child restraints vs. the car not liking how you are driving and pulling over…

                                  The Brad

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                                  • JollyJ Jolly

                                    It's a simple choice, really.

                                    Freedom vs. safety.

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                                    @jolly said in Drunk Drive Sensors To Be Required in US Cars:

                                    It's a simple choice, really.

                                    Freedom vs. safety.

                                    I agree. Again, you have to compromise to live in a civilized society.

                                    You want 100% personal freedom to do what you want? Check out Eritrea, or a country like that.

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                                    • JollyJ Jolly

                                      It's a simple choice, really.

                                      Freedom vs. safety.

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                                      Renauda
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                                      @jolly said in Drunk Drive Sensors To Be Required in US Cars:

                                      It's a simple choice, really.

                                      Freedom vs. safety.

                                      Not exactly. Driving a motor vehicle on public roads is an earned privilege that comes with accountability. If you drink, don’t drive.

                                      Elbows up!

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                                      • RenaudaR Renauda

                                        @jolly said in Drunk Drive Sensors To Be Required in US Cars:

                                        It's a simple choice, really.

                                        Freedom vs. safety.

                                        Not exactly. Driving a motor vehicle on public roads is an earned privilege that comes with accountability. If you drink, don’t drive.

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                                        LuFins Dad
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                                        @renauda said in Drunk Drive Sensors To Be Required in US Cars:

                                        @jolly said in Drunk Drive Sensors To Be Required in US Cars:

                                        It's a simple choice, really.

                                        Freedom vs. safety.

                                        Not exactly. Driving a motor vehicle on public roads is an earned privilege that comes with accountability. If you drink, don’t drive.

                                        I agree. What I don’t agree with is the assumption of guilt that must be disproven to be allowed to drive.

                                        The Brad

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                                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                          @renauda said in Drunk Drive Sensors To Be Required in US Cars:

                                          @jolly said in Drunk Drive Sensors To Be Required in US Cars:

                                          It's a simple choice, really.

                                          Freedom vs. safety.

                                          Not exactly. Driving a motor vehicle on public roads is an earned privilege that comes with accountability. If you drink, don’t drive.

                                          I agree. What I don’t agree with is the assumption of guilt that must be disproven to be allowed to drive.

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                                          Renauda
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                                          @lufins-dad

                                          Then what’s the issue here?

                                          Elbows up!

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