Drunk Drive Sensors To Be Required in US Cars
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@lufins-dad said in Drunk Drive Sensors To Be Required in US Cars:
It comes down to one simple premise. The more involved the US Government is in your daily life, the worse off you are.
Until you need something.
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You chaps do realise it's already illegal to drive over the limit, right?
If they catch you now, you're fucked, and what's more you deserve to be. I know people who've suffered life changing injuries due to a drunk driver, and the driver thought he was absolutely fine.
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@doctor-phibes said in Drunk Drive Sensors To Be Required in US Cars:
You chaps do realise it's already illegal to drive over the limit, right?
If they catch you now, you're fucked, and what's more you deserve to be. I know people who've suffered life changing injuries due to a drunk driver, and the driver thought he was absolutely fine.
That’s not debatable. Personally, I would approve of stiffer penalties.
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@doctor-phibes said in Drunk Drive Sensors To Be Required in US Cars:
You chaps do realise it's already illegal to drive over the limit, right?
A minor detail. Probably not to be taken seriously when personal civil liberties are involved.
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It's a simple choice, really.
Freedom vs. safety.
Always remember, Operation Valkyrie was an act of sedition.
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@jolly said in Drunk Drive Sensors To Be Required in US Cars:
It's a simple choice, really.
Freedom vs. safety.
The thing about impaired driving is that you're affecting other people's safety as well as your own. Your claim to freedom ends when you adversely affect my children's safety.
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“I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill
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I remember a few years back a drunk driver sued the bar that served him after he got injured after falling off his stupid motorbike. What a cock.
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Read a little more about this. It’s absurd.
Do any of your cars have lane departure mitigation? Our new Honda does. It’s a feature that I had to turn off because I naturally end to hug the center line. Not cross the line, but run within 2-3 feet. Where I grew up we had very narrow road lanes due to the terrain. With the lane departure mitigation on, it is always trying to correct me. According to the technology they are citing in the article, I would be pulled over and shut down. Screw that.
Beyond that, why not set it up for other offenses? Driving 10 MPH over the speed limit? Pull it over and shut it down… Go through a stop sign? Shut it down… Run a yellow a little too late? Here’s your ticket… Would likely save more lives than the drunk driving mitigation….
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@lufins-dad said in Drunk Drive Sensors To Be Required in US Cars:
Beyond that, why not set it up for other offenses? Driving 10 MPH over the speed limit? Pull it over and shut it down… Go through a stop sign? Shut it down… Run a yellow a little too late? Here’s your ticket… Would likely save more lives than the drunk driving mitigation….
Great ideas, thanks
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@lufins-dad said in Drunk Drive Sensors To Be Required in US Cars:
Read a little more about this. It’s absurd.
Do any of your cars have lane departure mitigation? Our new Honda does. It’s a feature that I had to turn off because I naturally end to hug the center line. Not cross the line, but run within 2-3 feet. Where I grew up we had very narrow road lanes due to the terrain. With the lane departure mitigation on, it is always trying to correct me. According to the technology they are citing in the article, I would be pulled over and shut down. Screw that.
Beyond that, why not set it up for other offenses? Driving 10 MPH over the speed limit? Pull it over and shut it down… Go through a stop sign? Shut it down… Run a yellow a little too late? Here’s your ticket… Would likely save more lives than the drunk driving mitigation….
There's been an ever increasing level of safety legislation in cars over the last few decades, and if you look at the death rates, it's worked. I'd be willing to bet that there was resistance to almost every improvement from some quarters.
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@mik said in Drunk Drive Sensors To Be Required in US Cars:
It’s really not freedom vs safety. It’s rights vs responsibilities.
Isn't that part of the equation?
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@doctor-phibes said in Drunk Drive Sensors To Be Required in US Cars:
@lufins-dad said in Drunk Drive Sensors To Be Required in US Cars:
Read a little more about this. It’s absurd.
Do any of your cars have lane departure mitigation? Our new Honda does. It’s a feature that I had to turn off because I naturally end to hug the center line. Not cross the line, but run within 2-3 feet. Where I grew up we had very narrow road lanes due to the terrain. With the lane departure mitigation on, it is always trying to correct me. According to the technology they are citing in the article, I would be pulled over and shut down. Screw that.
Beyond that, why not set it up for other offenses? Driving 10 MPH over the speed limit? Pull it over and shut it down… Go through a stop sign? Shut it down… Run a yellow a little too late? Here’s your ticket… Would likely save more lives than the drunk driving mitigation….
There's been an ever increasing level of safety legislation in cars over the last few decades, and if you look at the death rates, it's worked. I'd be willing to bet that there was resistance to almost every improvement from some quarters.
I would say there is a massive difference between crumple zones, airbag standards, and child restraints vs. the car not liking how you are driving and pulling over…
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@jolly said in Drunk Drive Sensors To Be Required in US Cars:
It's a simple choice, really.
Freedom vs. safety.
I agree. Again, you have to compromise to live in a civilized society.
You want 100% personal freedom to do what you want? Check out Eritrea, or a country like that.
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@jolly said in Drunk Drive Sensors To Be Required in US Cars:
It's a simple choice, really.
Freedom vs. safety.
Not exactly. Driving a motor vehicle on public roads is an earned privilege that comes with accountability. If you drink, don’t drive.
‘a-blowe yow and be-kele yow wel, and comyth up all with your ease’ ~ attributed to Henry V
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@renauda said in Drunk Drive Sensors To Be Required in US Cars:
@jolly said in Drunk Drive Sensors To Be Required in US Cars:
It's a simple choice, really.
Freedom vs. safety.
Not exactly. Driving a motor vehicle on public roads is an earned privilege that comes with accountability. If you drink, don’t drive.
I agree. What I don’t agree with is the assumption of guilt that must be disproven to be allowed to drive.
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Then what’s the issue here?
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I hope they perfect self driving cars by then.
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@lufins-dad said in Drunk Drive Sensors To Be Required in US Cars:
I agree. What I don’t agree with is the assumption of guilt that must be disproven to be allowed to drive.
This.
I don't think I've ever driven while drunk, but if I'd had to buy a car with a device for detection, my first course of action would be to find a way to disable it.
I'm very much against the government micro-managing my life. I want a society of adults who can take care of themselves, not a society of kids who needs constant protection from themselves.
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