Not so fast...
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wrote on 7 Nov 2021, 19:53 last edited by
Like anything pop culture, such as variations of wokeness or pro-vax zealotry, large corporations, whose customers are denizens of pop culture, will make their decisions entirely on their actuarial computations of how it affects their business value.
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wrote on 7 Nov 2021, 20:43 last edited by
Short of an existential threat, that’s as it should be.
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wrote on 7 Nov 2021, 20:56 last edited by Horace 11 Jul 2021, 21:00
Part of the corporate calculation is how zealous the culture will be in canceling them if they do not conform. That zealotry is part of the culture. We've even given our current zealotry a name - cancel culture. A term left-leaning souls will reliably scoff at. Cancel culture is neither as it must be nor as it should be. Pop cultural whims don't need to dictate how individuals at corporations choose to behave. You can lay that notion directly at the feet of our progressive-dominated culture.
"But Trump", say your local TDS suffering centrists.
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Lyin' Joe:
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@george-k Did you watch the video you posted? He said he wouldn’t mandate vaccines for all Americans. Has he reneged on that?
wrote on 8 Nov 2021, 10:48 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Not so fast...:
@george-k Did you watch the video you posted? He said he wouldn’t mandate vaccines for all Americans. Has he reneged on that?
We get it, Jon. He hasn’t mandated employers of a certain size force vaccinations, but instead mandated they require vaccination OR an onerous and expensive testing requirement that will result in them likely just pursuing a vaccine requirement. That is so much better.
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wrote on 8 Nov 2021, 12:37 last edited by
NOBODY that I've heard of, is doing the testing - they went straight to mandate.
Also, the rumor is that the Brandon Administration already has plans to mandate 50-99 employee businesses in the near future.
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wrote on 8 Nov 2021, 14:14 last edited by
I thought that if you worked for a company with fewer than 100 employees, the virus won't bother you.
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wrote on 8 Nov 2021, 14:15 last edited by
Nah, that number only works for protests and Democrat fund-raising events.
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NOBODY that I've heard of, is doing the testing - they went straight to mandate.
Also, the rumor is that the Brandon Administration already has plans to mandate 50-99 employee businesses in the near future.
wrote on 8 Nov 2021, 14:44 last edited by@jolly said in Not so fast...:
NOBODY that I've heard of, is doing the testing - they went straight to mandate.
As if it wasn't obvious that they would. Let's see, do I want to make the employees get a free vaccination or do I want to pay for weekly testing?
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@jolly said in Not so fast...:
NOBODY that I've heard of, is doing the testing - they went straight to mandate.
As if it wasn't obvious that they would. Let's see, do I want to make the employees get a free vaccination or do I want to pay for weekly testing?
wrote on 8 Nov 2021, 17:47 last edited by@mik said in Not so fast...:
@jolly said in Not so fast...:
NOBODY that I've heard of, is doing the testing - they went straight to mandate.
As if it wasn't obvious that they would. Let's see, do I want to make the employees get a free vaccination or do I want to pay for weekly testing?
Correct.
Those who argued there was a loophole in the mandated vax we're just blowing smoke ...
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wrote on 8 Nov 2021, 23:03 last edited by
P&G workers say to get ready for shutdowns if the mandate goes forward.
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P&G workers say to get ready for shutdowns if the mandate goes forward.
wrote on 8 Nov 2021, 23:50 last edited by@mik said in Not so fast...:
P&G workers say to get ready for shutdowns if the mandate goes forward.
Word is there are thousands of Federal Employees standing their ground, too.
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@jon-nyc said in Not so fast...:
@george-k Did you watch the video you posted? He said he wouldn’t mandate vaccines for all Americans. Has he reneged on that?
We get it, Jon. He hasn’t mandated employers of a certain size force vaccinations, but instead mandated they require vaccination OR an onerous and expensive testing requirement that will result in them likely just pursuing a vaccine requirement. That is so much better.
wrote on 9 Nov 2021, 02:24 last edited by jon-nyc 11 Sept 2021, 03:14@lufins-dad said in Not so fast...:
@jon-nyc said in Not so fast...:
@george-k Did you watch the video you posted? He said he wouldn’t mandate vaccines for all Americans. Has he reneged on that?
We get it, Jon. He hasn’t mandated employers of a certain size force vaccinations, but instead mandated they require vaccination OR an onerous and expensive testing requirement that will result in them likely just pursuing a vaccine requirement. That is so much better.
It doesn’t sound like you (collectively) get it when talking about the constitutionality of it. Because OSHA mandating testing is materially different than OSHA mandating a shot in the arm. And the court won’t rule on company implementations, they’ll rule on the mandate itself.
They still may strike it down, but it would be on highly technical reasons relating to OSHA’s enabling laws, not on vaccine mandates themselves, which the court ruled on decades ago.
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Disagree. Continuing to press vaccination now that the requirement has been stopped opens them up to liability if it gets squashed permanently. I think they will quietly stall for the moment. Saw a number of protests outside buildings this week.
wrote on 9 Nov 2021, 03:13 last edited by@mik said in Not so fast...:
Disagree. Continuing to press vaccination now that the requirement has been stopped opens them up to liability if it gets squashed permanently. I think they will quietly stall for the moment. Saw a number of protests outside buildings this week.
I am not sure about that. Private companies have a lot of ability to require things for their employees.
And I think the US supreme court has already ruled in favor of schools and companies that have required vaccines and said that they are legal to do that.