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@george-k said in Not so fast...:
@lufins-dad said in Not so fast...:
This post has been deemed to contain misleading and false information due to shut up.
Does that mean I go to TNCR jail?
No need to go all Meta on on us…
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In my opinion, I think most big big companies will continue to have move "forward" with requiring vaccines.
Maybe some of the smaller sized companies will delay while waiting for final court resolution.
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@taiwan_girl said in Not so fast...:
In my opinion, I think most big big companies will continue to have move "forward" with requiring vaccines.
Maybe some of the smaller sized companies will delay while waiting for final court resolution.
I don’t think most companies really give a rat patootie about their employees vaccination status and will only truly comply when there’s no choice.
There will be a few big companies that will comply just because the vaxxed screaming idiots are louder than the unvax screaming idiots.
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@lufins-dad said in Not so fast...:
There will be a few big companies that will comply just because the vaxxed screaming idiots are louder than the unvax screaming idiots.
Sadly, that is true
If it was my big company I would mandate the vax for people that are worth keeping. I would let the second string skip it.
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@lufins-dad said in Not so fast...:
@taiwan_girl said in Not so fast...:
In my opinion, I think most big big companies will continue to have move "forward" with requiring vaccines.
Maybe some of the smaller sized companies will delay while waiting for final court resolution.
I don’t think most companies really give a rat patootie about their employees vaccination status and will only truly comply when there’s no choice.
There will be a few big companies that will comply just because the vaxxed screaming idiots are louder than the unvax screaming idiots.
I guess my thinking is that most big companies (and I am thinking of Fortune 500 companies) already have plans and procedures in place. Big companies hate uncertainty. So, rather than stop any vacciation plans and then 3 or 4 months later having to restart them again, (and maybe stop again), I think they will just continue as is. If in the future, the vaccine/testing requirements are not allowed, maybe they will quietly drop their own requirements.
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“I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill
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Part of the corporate calculation is how zealous the culture will be in canceling them if they do not conform. That zealotry is part of the culture. We've even given our current zealotry a name - cancel culture. A term left-leaning souls will reliably scoff at. Cancel culture is neither as it must be nor as it should be. Pop cultural whims don't need to dictate how individuals at corporations choose to behave. You can lay that notion directly at the feet of our progressive-dominated culture.
"But Trump", say your local TDS suffering centrists.
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@george-k Did you watch the video you posted? He said he wouldn’t mandate vaccines for all Americans. Has he reneged on that?
When you shake someone's deep sense of self-worth, leaving a scar in their ego, they will persistently try to diminish you through petty arguments & obsessive captious criticism of your actions, just to soothe the wound.
- Nassim Nicholas Taleb
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@jon-nyc said in Not so fast...:
@george-k Did you watch the video you posted? He said he wouldn’t mandate vaccines for all Americans. Has he reneged on that?
We get it, Jon. He hasn’t mandated employers of a certain size force vaccinations, but instead mandated they require vaccination OR an onerous and expensive testing requirement that will result in them likely just pursuing a vaccine requirement. That is so much better.
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@jolly said in Not so fast...:
NOBODY that I've heard of, is doing the testing - they went straight to mandate.
As if it wasn't obvious that they would. Let's see, do I want to make the employees get a free vaccination or do I want to pay for weekly testing?
“I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill
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@mik said in Not so fast...:
@jolly said in Not so fast...:
NOBODY that I've heard of, is doing the testing - they went straight to mandate.
As if it wasn't obvious that they would. Let's see, do I want to make the employees get a free vaccination or do I want to pay for weekly testing?
Correct.
Those who argued there was a loophole in the mandated vax we're just blowing smoke ...
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P&G workers say to get ready for shutdowns if the mandate goes forward.
“I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill
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@mik said in Not so fast...:
P&G workers say to get ready for shutdowns if the mandate goes forward.
Word is there are thousands of Federal Employees standing their ground, too.
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@lufins-dad said in Not so fast...:
@jon-nyc said in Not so fast...:
@george-k Did you watch the video you posted? He said he wouldn’t mandate vaccines for all Americans. Has he reneged on that?
We get it, Jon. He hasn’t mandated employers of a certain size force vaccinations, but instead mandated they require vaccination OR an onerous and expensive testing requirement that will result in them likely just pursuing a vaccine requirement. That is so much better.
It doesn’t sound like you (collectively) get it when talking about the constitutionality of it. Because OSHA mandating testing is materially different than OSHA mandating a shot in the arm. And the court won’t rule on company implementations, they’ll rule on the mandate itself.
They still may strike it down, but it would be on highly technical reasons relating to OSHA’s enabling laws, not on vaccine mandates themselves, which the court ruled on decades ago.
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@mik said in Not so fast...:
Disagree. Continuing to press vaccination now that the requirement has been stopped opens them up to liability if it gets squashed permanently. I think they will quietly stall for the moment. Saw a number of protests outside buildings this week.
I am not sure about that. Private companies have a lot of ability to require things for their employees.
And I think the US supreme court has already ruled in favor of schools and companies that have required vaccines and said that they are legal to do that.
