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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    5th Circuit intervenes...

    https://legalinsurrection.com/2021/11/5th-circuit-appeals-ct-halts-biden-employer-vaccine-mandate-pending-further-action-by-this-court/

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • CopperC Offline
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      https://www.toddstarnes.com/politics/federal-court-blocks-biden-mandatory-vaccine-policy/?fbclid=IwAR0jrt5SuvrJ29dA7ej8DQoK7fMHxnmaSrpevPCiOKmZKpBdS2WN3UYwVvU

      Federal Court Blocks Biden’s Mandatory Vaccine Policy

      A federal court blocked the Biden administration’s federal vaccine mandate for private businesses Saturday.

      ashington, DC—The United States Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit today issued a temporary stay, stopping the Biden administration’s federal vaccine mandate for employers with over 100 employees. First Liberty Institute petitioned the Fifth Circuit on behalf Daystar Television Network and American Family Association to review the mandate.

      “We don’t live in a dictatorship where a President can issue an edict and take over all of the large companies in our nation and the lives of over 84 million Americans,” said Kelly Shackelford, President, CEO, and Chief Counsel for First Liberty Institute. “The mandate is massively unconstitutional and violates statutory law as well. We’re pleased that the Fifth Circuit has stopped it from being implemented.”

      The court said, “Because the petitions give cause to believe there are grave statutory and constitutional issues with the Mandate, the Mandate is hereby STAYED pending further action by this court.”

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      • MikM Offline
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        They had to expect this, but hoping to get more people vaccinated before it got shut down. I never believed it would be truly implemented.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • George KG Offline
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          Lyin' Joe:

          Link to video

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • George KG George K

            Lyin' Joe:

            Link to video

            LuFins DadL Offline
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            LuFins Dad
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            @george-k said in Not so fast...:

            Lyin' Joe:

            Link to video

            This post has been deemed to contain misleading and false information due to shut up.

            The Brad

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            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

              @george-k said in Not so fast...:

              Lyin' Joe:

              Link to video

              This post has been deemed to contain misleading and false information due to shut up.

              George KG Offline
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              @lufins-dad said in Not so fast...:

              This post has been deemed to contain misleading and false information due to shut up.

              Does that mean I go to TNCR jail?

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • George KG George K

                @lufins-dad said in Not so fast...:

                This post has been deemed to contain misleading and false information due to shut up.

                Does that mean I go to TNCR jail?

                LuFins DadL Offline
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                LuFins Dad
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                @george-k said in Not so fast...:

                @lufins-dad said in Not so fast...:

                This post has been deemed to contain misleading and false information due to shut up.

                Does that mean I go to TNCR jail?

                No need to go all Meta on on us…

                The Brad

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                • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                  In my opinion, I think most big big companies will continue to have move "forward" with requiring vaccines.

                  Maybe some of the smaller sized companies will delay while waiting for final court resolution.

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                  • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                    In my opinion, I think most big big companies will continue to have move "forward" with requiring vaccines.

                    Maybe some of the smaller sized companies will delay while waiting for final court resolution.

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                    @taiwan_girl said in Not so fast...:

                    In my opinion, I think most big big companies will continue to have move "forward" with requiring vaccines.

                    Maybe some of the smaller sized companies will delay while waiting for final court resolution.

                    I don’t think most companies really give a rat patootie about their employees vaccination status and will only truly comply when there’s no choice.

                    There will be a few big companies that will comply just because the vaxxed screaming idiots are louder than the unvax screaming idiots.

                    The Brad

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                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                      @taiwan_girl said in Not so fast...:

                      In my opinion, I think most big big companies will continue to have move "forward" with requiring vaccines.

                      Maybe some of the smaller sized companies will delay while waiting for final court resolution.

                      I don’t think most companies really give a rat patootie about their employees vaccination status and will only truly comply when there’s no choice.

                      There will be a few big companies that will comply just because the vaxxed screaming idiots are louder than the unvax screaming idiots.

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                      Copper
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                      @lufins-dad said in Not so fast...:

                      There will be a few big companies that will comply just because the vaxxed screaming idiots are louder than the unvax screaming idiots.

                      Sadly, that is true

                      If it was my big company I would mandate the vax for people that are worth keeping. I would let the second string skip it.

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                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                        @taiwan_girl said in Not so fast...:

                        In my opinion, I think most big big companies will continue to have move "forward" with requiring vaccines.

                        Maybe some of the smaller sized companies will delay while waiting for final court resolution.

                        I don’t think most companies really give a rat patootie about their employees vaccination status and will only truly comply when there’s no choice.

                        There will be a few big companies that will comply just because the vaxxed screaming idiots are louder than the unvax screaming idiots.

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                        taiwan_girl
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                        @lufins-dad said in Not so fast...:

                        @taiwan_girl said in Not so fast...:

                        In my opinion, I think most big big companies will continue to have move "forward" with requiring vaccines.

                        Maybe some of the smaller sized companies will delay while waiting for final court resolution.

                        I don’t think most companies really give a rat patootie about their employees vaccination status and will only truly comply when there’s no choice.

                        There will be a few big companies that will comply just because the vaxxed screaming idiots are louder than the unvax screaming idiots.

                        I guess my thinking is that most big companies (and I am thinking of Fortune 500 companies) already have plans and procedures in place. Big companies hate uncertainty. So, rather than stop any vacciation plans and then 3 or 4 months later having to restart them again, (and maybe stop again), I think they will just continue as is. If in the future, the vaccine/testing requirements are not allowed, maybe they will quietly drop their own requirements.

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                        • MikM Offline
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                          Disagree. Continuing to press vaccination now that the requirement has been stopped opens them up to liability if it gets squashed permanently. I think they will quietly stall for the moment. Saw a number of protests outside buildings this week.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            Like anything pop culture, such as variations of wokeness or pro-vax zealotry, large corporations, whose customers are denizens of pop culture, will make their decisions entirely on their actuarial computations of how it affects their business value.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                            • MikM Offline
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                              Short of an existential threat, that’s as it should be.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                Part of the corporate calculation is how zealous the culture will be in canceling them if they do not conform. That zealotry is part of the culture. We've even given our current zealotry a name - cancel culture. A term left-leaning souls will reliably scoff at. Cancel culture is neither as it must be nor as it should be. Pop cultural whims don't need to dictate how individuals at corporations choose to behave. You can lay that notion directly at the feet of our progressive-dominated culture.

                                "But Trump", say your local TDS suffering centrists.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                • George KG George K

                                  Lyin' Joe:

                                  Link to video

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                                  @george-k Did you watch the video you posted? He said he wouldn’t mandate vaccines for all Americans. Has he reneged on that?

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                    @george-k Did you watch the video you posted? He said he wouldn’t mandate vaccines for all Americans. Has he reneged on that?

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                                    @jon-nyc said in Not so fast...:

                                    @george-k Did you watch the video you posted? He said he wouldn’t mandate vaccines for all Americans. Has he reneged on that?

                                    We get it, Jon. He hasn’t mandated employers of a certain size force vaccinations, but instead mandated they require vaccination OR an onerous and expensive testing requirement that will result in them likely just pursuing a vaccine requirement. That is so much better. 🙄

                                    The Brad

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                                    • JollyJ Offline
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                                      NOBODY that I've heard of, is doing the testing - they went straight to mandate.

                                      Also, the rumor is that the Brandon Administration already has plans to mandate 50-99 employee businesses in the near future.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        I thought that if you worked for a company with fewer than 100 employees, the virus won't bother you.

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                                          Nah, that number only works for protests and Democrat fund-raising events.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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