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The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread

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  • taiwan_girlT Offline
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    taiwan_girl
    wrote on last edited by
    #441

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/digital-assets/2025/06/22/doomsday-scenario-bitcoin-suddenly-drops-under-100000-as-crypto-price-crash-fears-hit-ethereum-and-xrp/

    Bitcoin has plummeted sharply amid fears U.S involvement in the Israel-Iran conflict could escalate into a wider regional war (adding to volatility expected from an imminent Federal Reserve earthquake).

    The bitcoin price, after shrugging off the initial exchange of fire between Israel and Iran, has crashed under $100,000 per bitcoin despite U.S. president Donald Trump confirming a "massive" game-changer this week. Ethereum, XRP and other major cryptocurrencies have also plummeted, wiping $250 billion from the combined market in just 24 hours.

    My question - who cares? Unless you have a high amount invested in bitcoin, does it really matter? If it drops to lets say, USD $10000, will it have any effect on the world economy? For me, I dont think so.

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    • 89th8 Offline
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      89th
      wrote on last edited by
      #442

      Bitcoin above $114,000 today. I haven't checked my coinbase balance in a while (it'll be something I check in the 2030s and then maybe cash out) but checked today.... nothing crazy but since 2021 I'm up like 230%. Not too bad. I'm still waiting for SHIBU to go to the moon so I can retire early with @mark

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      • markM Offline
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        mark
        wrote on last edited by mark
        #443

        1000004892.jpg

        Climb baby, climb!

        I only have 134 million of them.

        Just hit .0001 and I will be very happy.

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        • 89th8 Offline
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          #444

          Bitcoin now at $117k

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          • markM mark

            1000004892.jpg

            Climb baby, climb!

            I only have 134 million of them.

            Just hit .0001 and I will be very happy.

            89th8 Offline
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            89th
            wrote on last edited by 89th
            #445

            @mark said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

            Just hit .0001 and I will be very happy.

            Very happy!! I only have 23 million SHIB though.

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            • 89th8 89th

              Bitcoin now at $117k

              89th8 Offline
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              89th
              wrote on last edited by
              #446

              @89th said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

              Bitcoin now at $117k

              $121,000 now

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              • jon-nycJ Offline
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                jon-nyc
                wrote on last edited by
                #447

                Mainly due to the dollar plummeting no doubt.

                Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                • jon-nycJ Offline
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                  wrote last edited by
                  #448

                  Blockchain doomed?

                  I hadn’t heard of the poster but he’s followed by lots of Silicon Valley royalty.

                  Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                  • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                    Doctor Phibes
                    wrote last edited by
                    #449

                    I wish these people would speak in plain English rather than use all this technobabble.

                    I was only joking

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                    • AxtremusA Offline
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                      wrote last edited by Axtremus
                      #450
                      1. Plain English has been failing at keeping up with technology advancements. Heck, practically all natural languages have the same problem. There will always be subject matter that less than .01% of the population understand. "Plain language" is developed to accommodate the middle one to three sigmas of the general population. There will always be cases when plain language simply cannot do a subject matter justice.

                      2. But if you really want that compromise to get some aspects of a message across to the middle one to three sigmas of the general population, sure, try a "plain language" approximation. AI can probably do that quite well most of the time these days.

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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        Blockchain doomed?

                        I hadn’t heard of the poster but he’s followed by lots of Silicon Valley royalty.

                        taiwan_girlT Offline
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                        wrote last edited by
                        #451

                        @jon-nyc said:

                        Blockchain doomed?

                        Why does this mean blockchain is doomed?

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                        • jon-nycJ Offline
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                          #452

                          Well it’s not technically just in its current form.

                          Shor’s algorithm breaks the math underlying most public key cryptography. But today it requires millions of years of computation whereas a sufficiently powerful quantum computer could do it in hours or less.

                          Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                          • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                            @jon-nyc said:

                            Blockchain doomed?

                            Why does this mean blockchain is doomed?

                            AxtremusA Offline
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                            @taiwan_girl said:

                            Why does this mean blockchain is doomed?

                            Only blockchains of certain implementations are doomed. Google's work is fairly specific about cracking the ECDSA 256-bit encryption method in a reasonable amount of time using a quantum computer that Google believes will come into existence sometime in 2029. Blockchains that use the ECDSA 256 (or fewer) bits encryption methods will be "doomed" if/when their underlying encryption can be broken in a reasonable amount of time -- using a quantum computer that may come into existence in 2029.

                            But blockchain as a general concept will continue to have a place in technology and industrial applications. The U.S. government, especially through NIST, is spearheading the world-leading effort to standardize a bunch of new encryption methods that are expected to be "quantum resistant" -- i.e., encryption methods that even quantum computers cannot break for a very long time. New blockchains can be implemented using these quantum-resistant encryption methods and continue to be secure in the face of quantum computers.

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                            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                              Well it’s not technically just in its current form.

                              Shor’s algorithm breaks the math underlying most public key cryptography. But today it requires millions of years of computation whereas a sufficiently powerful quantum computer could do it in hours or less.

                              KlausK Offline
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                              #454

                              @jon-nyc said:

                              Well it’s not technically just in its current form.

                              Shor’s algorithm breaks the math underlying most public key cryptography. But today it requires millions of years of computation whereas a sufficiently powerful quantum computer could do it in hours or less.

                              With a 500K qubit computer, which is completely unknown whether that's ever going to work. Nobody knows whether quantum computing will ever be practically useful. I highly doubt we'll have a 500k qubit computer in the 2030s.

                              Also, cryptographic algorithms can be changed. It just requires a "hard fork" of the blockchain.

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                              • KlausK Klaus

                                @jon-nyc said:

                                Well it’s not technically just in its current form.

                                Shor’s algorithm breaks the math underlying most public key cryptography. But today it requires millions of years of computation whereas a sufficiently powerful quantum computer could do it in hours or less.

                                With a 500K qubit computer, which is completely unknown whether that's ever going to work. Nobody knows whether quantum computing will ever be practically useful. I highly doubt we'll have a 500k qubit computer in the 2030s.

                                Also, cryptographic algorithms can be changed. It just requires a "hard fork" of the blockchain.

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                                @Klaus said:

                                With a 500K qubit computer, which is completely unknown whether that's ever going to work. Nobody knows whether quantum computing will ever be practically useful. I highly doubt we'll have a 500k qubit computer in the 2030s.

                                More importantly, will it be able to run Crysis at 120fps?

                                I was only joking

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                                • KlausK Offline
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                                  #456

                                  Quantum computing is way overrated in my opinion. Even if we'd have working quantum computers with millions of qbits, nothing really extraordinary would change. We'd have to upgrade some crypto technology to be quantum resistant. We'd set a few new records in finding large primes. And a few narrow applications, such as certain simulations, would become faster. But it's far from being a general purpose "make my program run faster" machine.

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                                  • jon-nycJ Offline
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                                    wrote last edited by
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                                    I think you’re too dismissive. It’s true the applications are narrow but that doesn’t mean they’re not impactful. Quantum computing could totally transform drug discovery, catalyst design, or battery chemistry for example.

                                    Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                                    • KlausK Offline
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                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #458

                                      OK, yes, there are some quite useful application domains, but in the public media it is often presented as an "everything will be a million times faster" thing, which is completely false.

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                                      • 89th8 Offline
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                                        89th
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                                        yeah, it'll be a billion times faster

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                                        • 89th8 Offline
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                                          89th
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #460

                                          Kidding, I have no idea.

                                          I do know the moon apparently has a shitload of Helium 3 which would be awesome to have for clean fuel, energy, quantum this, Crysis at 120 fps, etc.

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