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  • L LuFins Dad
    19 Nov 2021, 22:59

    @jon-nyc said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

    @lufins-dad said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:(/post/126059):

    At the same time I am sick of this "He shouldn't have been there" crap. Why not?

    He was there for the same reason the protesters were - to try on and act out an heroic self-image, and to participate in historic events.

    That is a perfect answer.

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    George K
    wrote on 19 Nov 2021, 23:05 last edited by
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    @lufins-dad said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

    @jon-nyc said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

    @lufins-dad said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:(/post/126059):

    At the same time I am sick of this "He shouldn't have been there" crap. Why not?

    He was there for the same reason the protesters were - to try on and act out an heroic self-image, and to participate in historic events.

    That is a perfect answer.

    Post of the day.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Horace
      wrote on 19 Nov 2021, 23:06 last edited by
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      If I had written that everybody would have ignored it. But when a white male writes it, it's some great insight. Typical.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • H Horace
        19 Nov 2021, 23:06

        If I had written that everybody would have ignored it. But when a white male writes it, it's some great insight. Typical.

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        Mik
        wrote on 19 Nov 2021, 23:10 last edited by
        #213

        @horace said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

        If I had written that everybody would have ignored it. But when a white male writes it, it's some great insight. Typical.

        "Wisconsin - we're whiter than white!"

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • M Mik
          19 Nov 2021, 23:10

          @horace said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

          If I had written that everybody would have ignored it. But when a white male writes it, it's some great insight. Typical.

          "Wisconsin - we're whiter than white!"

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          George K
          wrote on 19 Nov 2021, 23:18 last edited by
          #214

          @mik said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

          "Wisconsin - we're whiter than white!"

          See? There's your problem, right there.

          If you were really, really, from Wisconsin, you'd call yourself "Sconnies."

          It's like where D2 used to live. You don't say "West Allis." You say, "Stallis."

          But, it's Friday night, and there are no fish-frys here in the Chicago 'burbs, so...whatever.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • L LuFins Dad
            19 Nov 2021, 19:25

            Is the twitverse exploding?

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on 19 Nov 2021, 23:54 last edited by
            #215

            @lufins-dad said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

            Is the twitverse exploding?

            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
            -Cormac McCarthy

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              Copper
              wrote on 20 Nov 2021, 00:00 last edited by
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              Another president incites insurrection

              Biden calls for calm but says Rittenhouse 'not guilty' verdict leaves him 'angry and concerned'

              The president says Americans should protest 'peacefully'

              President Biden called on Americans to protest "peacefully" and follow the law following the jury's verdict in the Kyle Rittenhouse trial, which he said left him "angry and concerned."

              "I urge everyone to express their views peacefully, consistent with the rule of law," Biden said in a statement ahead of expected protests. "Violence and destruction of property have no place in our democracy."

              https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-calls-for-calm-in-wake-of-rittenhouse-not-guilty-verdict

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                Horace
                wrote on 20 Nov 2021, 00:07 last edited by Horace
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                Yeah the left hates American institutions that don't toe the leftist line. Such as an objectively just verdict that is at odds with leftist outrage. Our tribal leftist president is angry and concerned that an objectively just verdict didn't toe leftist outrage lines. Yeah, congratulations, welcome to America. It's the one the idiots wanted. At least the court made the right decision.

                Education is extremely important.

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                • C Copper
                  20 Nov 2021, 00:00

                  Another president incites insurrection

                  Biden calls for calm but says Rittenhouse 'not guilty' verdict leaves him 'angry and concerned'

                  The president says Americans should protest 'peacefully'

                  President Biden called on Americans to protest "peacefully" and follow the law following the jury's verdict in the Kyle Rittenhouse trial, which he said left him "angry and concerned."

                  "I urge everyone to express their views peacefully, consistent with the rule of law," Biden said in a statement ahead of expected protests. "Violence and destruction of property have no place in our democracy."

                  https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-calls-for-calm-in-wake-of-rittenhouse-not-guilty-verdict

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                  George K
                  wrote on 20 Nov 2021, 00:33 last edited by
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                  @copper said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                  President Biden called on Americans to protest "peacefully" and follow the law following the jury's verdict in the Kyle Rittenhouse trial, which he said left him "angry and concerned."

                  They should make their voice be heard!

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    Jolly
                    wrote on 20 Nov 2021, 03:21 last edited by
                    #219

                    Watch Biden turn Justice loose on him.

                    The weapon meets the criteria for a straw purchase.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      Jolly
                      wrote on 20 Nov 2021, 03:57 last edited by
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                      Another "What if?" ... The mayor of Kenosha asked the governor for 500 National Guard. Trump offered the governor 2000 personnel.

                      The governor sent 250.

                      What if everybody compromised on 1000?

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • J Jolly
                        20 Nov 2021, 03:21

                        Watch Biden turn Justice loose on him.

                        The weapon meets the criteria for a straw purchase.

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                        George K
                        wrote on 20 Nov 2021, 13:54 last edited by
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                        @jolly said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                        The weapon meets the criteria for a straw purchase.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          Mik
                          wrote on 20 Nov 2021, 14:14 last edited by
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                          Could he face civil penalties? I'm not sure how you establish that he was 51% at fault here when other guys were coming after him with guns.

                          https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/kyle-rittenhouse-face-civil-penalties-acquittals-kenosha-deaths-rcna6207

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          • M Mik
                            20 Nov 2021, 14:14

                            Could he face civil penalties? I'm not sure how you establish that he was 51% at fault here when other guys were coming after him with guns.

                            https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/kyle-rittenhouse-face-civil-penalties-acquittals-kenosha-deaths-rcna6207

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                            Improviso
                            wrote on 20 Nov 2021, 14:18 last edited by
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                            @mik said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                            Could he face civil penalties?

                            Considering he was found not guilty by reason of self defense, I'd say the probability of success in a civil suit would be slim to nil.

                            But I'm sure some sleazy lawyer out there will try.

                            Good luck with that. They better be prepared for a counter-suit.

                            We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
                            Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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                              Copper
                              wrote on 20 Nov 2021, 14:34 last edited by
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                              I expect cnn and msnbc will cover any legal bills he has.

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                              • J Jolly
                                20 Nov 2021, 03:21

                                Watch Biden turn Justice loose on him.

                                The weapon meets the criteria for a straw purchase.

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                                George K
                                wrote on 20 Nov 2021, 15:51 last edited by
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                                @jolly said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                                Watch Biden turn Justice loose on him.

                                The weapon meets the criteria for a straw purchase.

                                https://www.yahoo.com/news/kyle-rittenhouse-didnt-illegally-bring-043226324.html

                                Rittenhouse and his friend, Dominick Black, testified that Black, who was 18 at the time, used Rittenhouse's money to purchase the weapon at a Wisconsin hardware store in May 2020. The two reportedly agreed that Black would keep the gun until Rittenhouse turned 18 in January 2021, according to court testimony.

                                Black is now being prosecuted for participating in the illegal straw purchase of the weapon on behalf of Rittenhouse. But Rittenhouse's possession of the firearm at the time was technically legal.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  LuFins Dad
                                  wrote on 20 Nov 2021, 19:29 last edited by
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                                  So I guess that means Rittenhouse isn’t getting it back… He better go get another, I’m afraid he will likely need it.

                                  The Brad

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                                    Improviso
                                    wrote on 21 Nov 2021, 11:01 last edited by
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                                    We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
                                    Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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                                      jon-nyc
                                      wrote on 21 Nov 2021, 18:25 last edited by
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                                      @improviso said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                                      @mik said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                                      Could he face civil penalties?

                                      Considering he was found not guilty by reason of self defense, I'd say the probability of success in a civil suit would be slim to nil.

                                      Tell that to OJ.

                                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                      -Cormac McCarthy

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                                      • J jon-nyc
                                        21 Nov 2021, 18:25

                                        @improviso said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                                        @mik said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                                        Could he face civil penalties?

                                        Considering he was found not guilty by reason of self defense, I'd say the probability of success in a civil suit would be slim to nil.

                                        Tell that to OJ.

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                                        LuFins Dad
                                        wrote on 21 Nov 2021, 19:47 last edited by
                                        #229

                                        @jon-nyc said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                                        @improviso said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                                        @mik said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                                        Could he face civil penalties?

                                        Considering he was found not guilty by reason of self defense, I'd say the probability of success in a civil suit would be slim to nil.

                                        Tell that to OJ.

                                        Self-defense was never an argument for OJ. In this case we have pretty clear video showing over and over that Rittenhouse never fired until he was being threatened and attacked in EACH situation.

                                        The Brad

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                                          jon-nyc
                                          wrote on 21 Nov 2021, 19:57 last edited by jon-nyc
                                          #230

                                          That’s not the point. The point is that a not-guilty verdict doesn’t save you from civil liability, which is a much lower bar. I’d say the odds are better than even that Rittenhouse will lose at least one civil suit. Perhaps multiple.

                                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                          -Cormac McCarthy

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