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  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

    Is the twitverse exploding?

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    @lufins-dad said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

    Is the twitverse exploding?

    Only non-witches get due process.

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      Another president incites insurrection

      Biden calls for calm but says Rittenhouse 'not guilty' verdict leaves him 'angry and concerned'

      The president says Americans should protest 'peacefully'

      President Biden called on Americans to protest "peacefully" and follow the law following the jury's verdict in the Kyle Rittenhouse trial, which he said left him "angry and concerned."

      "I urge everyone to express their views peacefully, consistent with the rule of law," Biden said in a statement ahead of expected protests. "Violence and destruction of property have no place in our democracy."

      https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-calls-for-calm-in-wake-of-rittenhouse-not-guilty-verdict

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        Yeah the left hates American institutions that don't toe the leftist line. Such as an objectively just verdict that is at odds with leftist outrage. Our tribal leftist president is angry and concerned that an objectively just verdict didn't toe leftist outrage lines. Yeah, congratulations, welcome to America. It's the one the idiots wanted. At least the court made the right decision.

        Education is extremely important.

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        • CopperC Copper

          Another president incites insurrection

          Biden calls for calm but says Rittenhouse 'not guilty' verdict leaves him 'angry and concerned'

          The president says Americans should protest 'peacefully'

          President Biden called on Americans to protest "peacefully" and follow the law following the jury's verdict in the Kyle Rittenhouse trial, which he said left him "angry and concerned."

          "I urge everyone to express their views peacefully, consistent with the rule of law," Biden said in a statement ahead of expected protests. "Violence and destruction of property have no place in our democracy."

          https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-calls-for-calm-in-wake-of-rittenhouse-not-guilty-verdict

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          @copper said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

          President Biden called on Americans to protest "peacefully" and follow the law following the jury's verdict in the Kyle Rittenhouse trial, which he said left him "angry and concerned."

          They should make their voice be heard!

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            Watch Biden turn Justice loose on him.

            The weapon meets the criteria for a straw purchase.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              Another "What if?" ... The mayor of Kenosha asked the governor for 500 National Guard. Trump offered the governor 2000 personnel.

              The governor sent 250.

              What if everybody compromised on 1000?

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                Watch Biden turn Justice loose on him.

                The weapon meets the criteria for a straw purchase.

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                @jolly said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                The weapon meets the criteria for a straw purchase.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  Could he face civil penalties? I'm not sure how you establish that he was 51% at fault here when other guys were coming after him with guns.

                  https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/kyle-rittenhouse-face-civil-penalties-acquittals-kenosha-deaths-rcna6207

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • MikM Mik

                    Could he face civil penalties? I'm not sure how you establish that he was 51% at fault here when other guys were coming after him with guns.

                    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/kyle-rittenhouse-face-civil-penalties-acquittals-kenosha-deaths-rcna6207

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                    @mik said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                    Could he face civil penalties?

                    Considering he was found not guilty by reason of self defense, I'd say the probability of success in a civil suit would be slim to nil.

                    But I'm sure some sleazy lawyer out there will try.

                    Good luck with that. They better be prepared for a counter-suit.

                    We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
                    Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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                      I expect cnn and msnbc will cover any legal bills he has.

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                      • JollyJ Jolly

                        Watch Biden turn Justice loose on him.

                        The weapon meets the criteria for a straw purchase.

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                        @jolly said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                        Watch Biden turn Justice loose on him.

                        The weapon meets the criteria for a straw purchase.

                        https://www.yahoo.com/news/kyle-rittenhouse-didnt-illegally-bring-043226324.html

                        Rittenhouse and his friend, Dominick Black, testified that Black, who was 18 at the time, used Rittenhouse's money to purchase the weapon at a Wisconsin hardware store in May 2020. The two reportedly agreed that Black would keep the gun until Rittenhouse turned 18 in January 2021, according to court testimony.

                        Black is now being prosecuted for participating in the illegal straw purchase of the weapon on behalf of Rittenhouse. But Rittenhouse's possession of the firearm at the time was technically legal.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          So I guess that means Rittenhouse isn’t getting it back… He better go get another, I’m afraid he will likely need it.

                          The Brad

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                            We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
                            Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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                              @improviso said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                              @mik said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                              Could he face civil penalties?

                              Considering he was found not guilty by reason of self defense, I'd say the probability of success in a civil suit would be slim to nil.

                              Tell that to OJ.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

                              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                @improviso said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                                @mik said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                                Could he face civil penalties?

                                Considering he was found not guilty by reason of self defense, I'd say the probability of success in a civil suit would be slim to nil.

                                Tell that to OJ.

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                                @jon-nyc said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                                @improviso said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                                @mik said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                                Could he face civil penalties?

                                Considering he was found not guilty by reason of self defense, I'd say the probability of success in a civil suit would be slim to nil.

                                Tell that to OJ.

                                Self-defense was never an argument for OJ. In this case we have pretty clear video showing over and over that Rittenhouse never fired until he was being threatened and attacked in EACH situation.

                                The Brad

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                                  That’s not the point. The point is that a not-guilty verdict doesn’t save you from civil liability, which is a much lower bar. I’d say the odds are better than even that Rittenhouse will lose at least one civil suit. Perhaps multiple.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                    That’s not the point. The point is that a not-guilty verdict doesn’t save you from civil liability, which is a much lower bar. I’d say the odds are better than even that Rittenhouse will lose at least one civil suit. Perhaps multiple.

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                                    @jon-nyc said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                                    Perhaps multiple.

                                    Multiple being a number less than 4?

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      I would presume, but the number of people with potential cases is not limited by the number of people be shot. Though obviously some relatives would have better cases than others.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                        That’s not the point. The point is that a not-guilty verdict doesn’t save you from civil liability, which is a much lower bar. I’d say the odds are better than even that Rittenhouse will lose at least one civil suit. Perhaps multiple.

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                                        @jon-nyc said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                                        That’s not the point. The point is that a not-guilty verdict doesn’t save you from civil liability, which is a much lower bar. I’d say the odds are better than even that Rittenhouse will lose at least one civil suit. Perhaps multiple.

                                        There's no one who would have a legal standing to sue HIM civilly. The parents of those he shot would be the only ones with standing, but they lost that footing the moment their son made the decision to cause rittenhouse to need to defend himself. If you attack me and I kill you to stop you from harming me, your family can't turn around and sue me in civil court, especially if I've been found to have acted in self defense.

                                        The only one with any standing in a civil suit is rittenhouse himself, not against the families of the ones who threatened him, but against those who lied about him and harmed his good name.

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                                          https://denver.cbslocal.com/2021/11/19/denver-attorney-files-civil-action-in-kyle-rittenhouse-shooting/

                                          Denver attorney Milo Schwab represents two of those who were shot.

                                          “A criminal case and civil case are different, but we are reaching for larger questions,” he told CBS4’s Rick Sallinger in an interview before testimony in the criminal trial began.

                                          His clients are the family of Joseph Rosenbaum, one of those who died as well as Gaige Grosskreutz who was wounded by Rittenhouse’s gun. He has already filed a lawsuit against Kenosha authorities and its police.

                                          Following the not guilty verdict Schwab and co-counsel Kimberley Motley issued the following statement:

                                          “Today we grieve for the families of those slain by Kyle Rittenhouse. Anthony Huber and Joseph Rosenbaum did not deserve to die that night. For now, we ask for peace from everyone hurting and that the public respect the privacy of the victims and their families. That night in Kenosha, Gaige Grosskreutz, Anthony Huber, and many others acted heroically. They did not seek violence, but to end violence. What we need right now is justice, not more violence. While today’s verdict may mean justice delayed, it will not mean justice denied. We are committed to uncovering the truth of that night and holding those responsible to account.”

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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