Nah, ain’t about politics at all
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@doctor-phibes said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:
The entire anti-vaccination movement is based on people being fucking idiots.
Does that include the winners of the presidential and vice-presidential election who said they would never take a "Trump vaccine?"
wrote on 29 Oct 2021, 22:10 last edited by@george-k said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:
Does that include the winners of the presidential and vice-presidential election who said they would never take a "Trump vaccine?"
WTF is a Trump vaccine?
Never heard of it.
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@george-k said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:
Does that include the winners of the presidential and vice-presidential election who said they would never take a "Trump vaccine?"
WTF is a Trump vaccine?
Never heard of it.
wrote on 29 Oct 2021, 22:14 last edited by@renauda said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:
WTF is a Trump vaccine?
Never heard of it.
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i accept the fact there are people who dont trust government.
what i find hard to accept is using that as a reason not to get vaccinated.
the government didn't invent vaccines.
wrote on 30 Oct 2021, 00:55 last edited by@bachophile said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:
the government didn't invent vaccines.
A Turkish immigrant in Germany did.
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@george-k said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:
Does that include the winners of the presidential and vice-presidential election who said they would never take a "Trump vaccine?"
WTF is a Trump vaccine?
Never heard of it.
wrote on 30 Oct 2021, 01:01 last edited by@renauda said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:
WTF is a Trump vaccine?
Unlike the ones where you need a booster shot, it's the one where they give you one really annoying prick.
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wrote on 30 Oct 2021, 01:05 last edited by
Think y'all missed a big'un.
Country folks are vaccinated at lower rates, especially among younger people. There's several reasons at play.
- Country folks are conservative, for the most part. While most of the older people are vaxxed, a lot of the younger ones have adopted a wait and see attitude.
- COVID doesn't seem to be quite as rampant as in town. Maybe it's because country folks are more spread out and probably outside more.
- Country folks tend to be more religious, at least down here. Maybe it's fatalism or maybe it's a deep faith in the afterlife, but many simply refuse to live in fear. If they get it, they get it. They get better or die. If they die, there's something better on the other side.
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Think y'all missed a big'un.
Country folks are vaccinated at lower rates, especially among younger people. There's several reasons at play.
- Country folks are conservative, for the most part. While most of the older people are vaxxed, a lot of the younger ones have adopted a wait and see attitude.
- COVID doesn't seem to be quite as rampant as in town. Maybe it's because country folks are more spread out and probably outside more.
- Country folks tend to be more religious, at least down here. Maybe it's fatalism or maybe it's a deep faith in the afterlife, but many simply refuse to live in fear. If they get it, they get it. They get better or die. If they die, there's something better on the other side.
wrote on 30 Oct 2021, 01:38 last edited by xenon@jolly said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:
- Country folks tend to be more religious, at least down here. Maybe it's fatalism or maybe it's a deep faith in the afterlife, but many simply refuse to live in fear. If they get it, they get it. They get better or die. If they die, there's something better on the other side.
This is the one that gets me. I believe you, they’re less fearful… BUT their fear of vaccine > fear of Covid.
I’m probably more nonchalant to the chances of getting Covid than most I know, but I didn’t even think twice about side effects for the vaccine.
We’ve been pumping ourselves and our kids with those for decades (to great effect)
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wrote on 30 Oct 2021, 01:44 last edited by
How many here have had COVID?
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wrote on 5 Nov 2021, 13:27 last edited by
@jolly said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:
How many here have had COVID?
I have
But I still follow the rules
Because science
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wrote on 5 Nov 2021, 13:55 last edited by
That's funny.
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@bachophile I don't think it's necessarily mistrust of government. It's a cultural signal to be anti-vax. Some people are getting vaxxed in secret so their family and friends don't know.
It's a similar phenomenon to virtue signaling.
wrote on 5 Nov 2021, 14:55 last edited by@xenon said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:
@bachophile I don't think it's necessarily mistrust of government. It's a cultural signal to be anti-vax. Some people are getting vaxxed in secret so their family and friends don't know.
It's a similar phenomenon to virtue signaling.
I wouldn't be surprised at all if there is vaccination going on behind the backs of family and friends. I wish more would.
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@xenon said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:
@bachophile I don't think it's necessarily mistrust of government. It's a cultural signal to be anti-vax. Some people are getting vaxxed in secret so their family and friends don't know.
It's a similar phenomenon to virtue signaling.
I wouldn't be surprised at all if there is vaccination going on behind the backs of family and friends. I wish more would.
wrote on 6 Nov 2021, 02:47 last edited by@brenda I think you are right.
When people are asked if they will get vaccinated (for job reasons, etc), there is a relatively "high" percent that say they would never do it.
For example, one US medical group workers said that 20% or so would not get vaccinated.
However, when final results were in, the un-vaccinated were less than a couple %.
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wrote on 6 Nov 2021, 09:58 last edited by
At the end of the day, people have to eat and pay the rent.
They may get vaxxed, but it leaves a nice, slow burn in place...
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wrote on 6 Nov 2021, 14:00 last edited by
https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/05/health/vaccine-misinformation-consequences/index.html
"Strong Conservative", after survived hospitalization with COVID-19, decides to get vaccinated, but is losing friends over it.
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wrote on 6 Nov 2021, 14:11 last edited by
Wonder how long they had to hunt for that story...
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wrote on 6 Nov 2021, 14:15 last edited by
@jolly
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2784480lots of them out there....
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wrote on 6 Nov 2021, 14:17 last edited by
Well, duh.
This cohort study found that COVID-19 vaccine hesitancy is not a stable trait precluding vaccination but, instead, is labile.
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At the end of the day, people have to eat and pay the rent.
They may get vaxxed, but it leaves a nice, slow burn in place...
wrote on 7 Nov 2021, 01:08 last edited by@jolly said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:
At the end of the day, people have to eat and pay the rent.
They may get vaxxed, but it leaves a nice, slow burn in place...
As part of living in a civilized society, EVERYBODY has to put aside some of their personal preferences and beliefs.
You may be right, but if vaccine or testing requirements remain, I doubt it will bother people for too long. People have pretty short memories.
I remember when smoking bans were first put in place in Taiwan (and Taiwan had a pretty bad smoking culture). People against the smoking bans had the same passion as many people show against vaccines.
One year, two years after the ban were placed, there were no words of protest against it.
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wrote on 7 Nov 2021, 01:15 last edited by
America ain't Taiwan.
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wrote on 7 Nov 2021, 01:38 last edited by
Maybe I am not making you understand me.I think it applies to any country.
Want to get on an airplane? have to go through an x-ray machine.
But I think that X-rays machines are sucking the soul from my body. I cannot agree.
Okay. Than you can't fly.
My kids will be starting school next year.
Okay, you need immunization X, Y, Z
But I dont believe in those.
Okay, you cannot go to a public school.
Wearing clothes is like wearing a mask. An infringement on my rights.
Okay, but you are no longer allowed to go out in public.
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Maybe I am not making you understand me.I think it applies to any country.
Want to get on an airplane? have to go through an x-ray machine.
But I think that X-rays machines are sucking the soul from my body. I cannot agree.
Okay. Than you can't fly.
My kids will be starting school next year.
Okay, you need immunization X, Y, Z
But I dont believe in those.
Okay, you cannot go to a public school.
Wearing clothes is like wearing a mask. An infringement on my rights.
Okay, but you are no longer allowed to go out in public.
wrote on 7 Nov 2021, 01:50 last edited by Copper 11 Jul 2021, 11:43What exactly is being protected?
I mean exactly, without question.
That is unknown.
The question is not, what is the law? I don't think the mandate is actually a law.
The question is why?
The answer is just not very well defined.
I think we can all agree with, shut up. But there is an element of doubt.