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Nah, ain’t about politics at all

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  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

    The entire anti-vaccination movement is based on people being fucking idiots.

    I know, I know, we're supposed to embrace diversity, and everybody has a right to their own opinion. Still, they're fucking idiots.

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    George K
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    @doctor-phibes said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:

    The entire anti-vaccination movement is based on people being fucking idiots.

    Does that include the winners of the presidential and vice-presidential election who said they would never take a "Trump vaccine?"

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • George KG George K

      @doctor-phibes said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:

      The entire anti-vaccination movement is based on people being fucking idiots.

      Does that include the winners of the presidential and vice-presidential election who said they would never take a "Trump vaccine?"

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      @george-k said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:

      @doctor-phibes said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:

      The entire anti-vaccination movement is based on people being fucking idiots.

      Does that include the winners of the presidential and vice-presidential election who said they would never take a "Trump vaccine?"

      Sure. It was an incredibly stupid, and also a highly cynical thing to say. They should be ashamed of themselves.

      Any other questions? 😀

      I was only joking

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      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

        @lufins-dad said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:

        My bet is that the Republican numbers would be about the same and the Democrat numbers would be far lower, as it would have well and truly been considered a Trump vaccine.

        Well, that's just re-emphasising how stupid people are.

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        Copper
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        #33

        @doctor-phibes said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:

        Well, that's just re-emphasising how stupid people are.

        It's worse than that

        They are no darned good

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        • George KG George K

          @doctor-phibes said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:

          The entire anti-vaccination movement is based on people being fucking idiots.

          Does that include the winners of the presidential and vice-presidential election who said they would never take a "Trump vaccine?"

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          #34

          @george-k said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:

          Does that include the winners of the presidential and vice-presidential election who said they would never take a "Trump vaccine?"

          WTF is a Trump vaccine?

          Never heard of it.

          Elbows up!

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          • RenaudaR Renauda

            @george-k said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:

            Does that include the winners of the presidential and vice-presidential election who said they would never take a "Trump vaccine?"

            WTF is a Trump vaccine?

            Never heard of it.

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            @renauda said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:

            WTF is a Trump vaccine?

            Never heard of it.

            Link to video

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • bachophileB bachophile

              i accept the fact there are people who dont trust government.

              what i find hard to accept is using that as a reason not to get vaccinated.

              the government didn't invent vaccines.

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              jon-nyc
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              @bachophile said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:

              the government didn't invent vaccines.

              A Turkish immigrant in Germany did.

              Only non-witches get due process.

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              • RenaudaR Renauda

                @george-k said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:

                Does that include the winners of the presidential and vice-presidential election who said they would never take a "Trump vaccine?"

                WTF is a Trump vaccine?

                Never heard of it.

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                @renauda said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:

                WTF is a Trump vaccine?

                Unlike the ones where you need a booster shot, it's the one where they give you one really annoying prick.

                I was only joking

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                  Think y'all missed a big'un.

                  Country folks are vaccinated at lower rates, especially among younger people. There's several reasons at play.

                  1. Country folks are conservative, for the most part. While most of the older people are vaxxed, a lot of the younger ones have adopted a wait and see attitude.
                  2. COVID doesn't seem to be quite as rampant as in town. Maybe it's because country folks are more spread out and probably outside more.
                  3. Country folks tend to be more religious, at least down here. Maybe it's fatalism or maybe it's a deep faith in the afterlife, but many simply refuse to live in fear. If they get it, they get it. They get better or die. If they die, there's something better on the other side.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    Think y'all missed a big'un.

                    Country folks are vaccinated at lower rates, especially among younger people. There's several reasons at play.

                    1. Country folks are conservative, for the most part. While most of the older people are vaxxed, a lot of the younger ones have adopted a wait and see attitude.
                    2. COVID doesn't seem to be quite as rampant as in town. Maybe it's because country folks are more spread out and probably outside more.
                    3. Country folks tend to be more religious, at least down here. Maybe it's fatalism or maybe it's a deep faith in the afterlife, but many simply refuse to live in fear. If they get it, they get it. They get better or die. If they die, there's something better on the other side.
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                    #39

                    @jolly said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:

                    1. Country folks tend to be more religious, at least down here. Maybe it's fatalism or maybe it's a deep faith in the afterlife, but many simply refuse to live in fear. If they get it, they get it. They get better or die. If they die, there's something better on the other side.

                    This is the one that gets me. I believe you, they’re less fearful… BUT their fear of vaccine > fear of Covid.

                    I’m probably more nonchalant to the chances of getting Covid than most I know, but I didn’t even think twice about side effects for the vaccine.

                    We’ve been pumping ourselves and our kids with those for decades (to great effect)

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                      How many here have had COVID? 👋

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • JollyJ Jolly

                        How many here have had COVID? 👋

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                        @jolly said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:

                        How many here have had COVID? 👋

                        I have

                        But I still follow the rules

                        Because science

                        ![alt text](cd93ec82-17b2-40a7-8929-b942f8a1e26d-image.png image url)

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                          Jolly
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                          That's funny.😂😂

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            @bachophile I don't think it's necessarily mistrust of government. It's a cultural signal to be anti-vax. Some people are getting vaxxed in secret so their family and friends don't know.

                            It's a similar phenomenon to virtue signaling.

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                            @xenon said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:

                            @bachophile I don't think it's necessarily mistrust of government. It's a cultural signal to be anti-vax. Some people are getting vaxxed in secret so their family and friends don't know.

                            It's a similar phenomenon to virtue signaling.

                            I wouldn't be surprised at all if there is vaccination going on behind the backs of family and friends. I wish more would.

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                            • brendaB brenda

                              @xenon said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:

                              @bachophile I don't think it's necessarily mistrust of government. It's a cultural signal to be anti-vax. Some people are getting vaxxed in secret so their family and friends don't know.

                              It's a similar phenomenon to virtue signaling.

                              I wouldn't be surprised at all if there is vaccination going on behind the backs of family and friends. I wish more would.

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                              @brenda I think you are right.

                              When people are asked if they will get vaccinated (for job reasons, etc), there is a relatively "high" percent that say they would never do it.

                              For example, one US medical group workers said that 20% or so would not get vaccinated.

                              However, when final results were in, the un-vaccinated were less than a couple %.

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                                At the end of the day, people have to eat and pay the rent.

                                They may get vaxxed, but it leaves a nice, slow burn in place...

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/05/health/vaccine-misinformation-consequences/index.html

                                  "Strong Conservative", after survived hospitalization with COVID-19, decides to get vaccinated, but is losing friends over it.

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                                    Wonder how long they had to hunt for that story...

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    • JollyJ Jolly

                                      Wonder how long they had to hunt for that story...

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                                      bachophile
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                                      @jolly
                                      https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2784480

                                      lots of them out there....

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                                        Well, duh.

                                        This cohort study found that COVID-19 vaccine hesitancy is not a stable trait precluding vaccination but, instead, is labile.

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        • JollyJ Jolly

                                          At the end of the day, people have to eat and pay the rent.

                                          They may get vaxxed, but it leaves a nice, slow burn in place...

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                                          @jolly said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:

                                          At the end of the day, people have to eat and pay the rent.

                                          They may get vaxxed, but it leaves a nice, slow burn in place...

                                          As part of living in a civilized society, EVERYBODY has to put aside some of their personal preferences and beliefs.

                                          You may be right, but if vaccine or testing requirements remain, I doubt it will bother people for too long. People have pretty short memories.

                                          I remember when smoking bans were first put in place in Taiwan (and Taiwan had a pretty bad smoking culture). People against the smoking bans had the same passion as many people show against vaccines.

                                          One year, two years after the ban were placed, there were no words of protest against it.

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