Nah, ain’t about politics at all
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@george-k said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:
Does that include the winners of the presidential and vice-presidential election who said they would never take a "Trump vaccine?"
WTF is a Trump vaccine?
Never heard of it.
@renauda said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:
WTF is a Trump vaccine?
Unlike the ones where you need a booster shot, it's the one where they give you one really annoying prick.
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Think y'all missed a big'un.
Country folks are vaccinated at lower rates, especially among younger people. There's several reasons at play.
- Country folks are conservative, for the most part. While most of the older people are vaxxed, a lot of the younger ones have adopted a wait and see attitude.
- COVID doesn't seem to be quite as rampant as in town. Maybe it's because country folks are more spread out and probably outside more.
- Country folks tend to be more religious, at least down here. Maybe it's fatalism or maybe it's a deep faith in the afterlife, but many simply refuse to live in fear. If they get it, they get it. They get better or die. If they die, there's something better on the other side.
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Think y'all missed a big'un.
Country folks are vaccinated at lower rates, especially among younger people. There's several reasons at play.
- Country folks are conservative, for the most part. While most of the older people are vaxxed, a lot of the younger ones have adopted a wait and see attitude.
- COVID doesn't seem to be quite as rampant as in town. Maybe it's because country folks are more spread out and probably outside more.
- Country folks tend to be more religious, at least down here. Maybe it's fatalism or maybe it's a deep faith in the afterlife, but many simply refuse to live in fear. If they get it, they get it. They get better or die. If they die, there's something better on the other side.
@jolly said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:
- Country folks tend to be more religious, at least down here. Maybe it's fatalism or maybe it's a deep faith in the afterlife, but many simply refuse to live in fear. If they get it, they get it. They get better or die. If they die, there's something better on the other side.
This is the one that gets me. I believe you, they’re less fearful… BUT their fear of vaccine > fear of Covid.
I’m probably more nonchalant to the chances of getting Covid than most I know, but I didn’t even think twice about side effects for the vaccine.
We’ve been pumping ourselves and our kids with those for decades (to great effect)
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@bachophile I don't think it's necessarily mistrust of government. It's a cultural signal to be anti-vax. Some people are getting vaxxed in secret so their family and friends don't know.
It's a similar phenomenon to virtue signaling.
@xenon said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:
@bachophile I don't think it's necessarily mistrust of government. It's a cultural signal to be anti-vax. Some people are getting vaxxed in secret so their family and friends don't know.
It's a similar phenomenon to virtue signaling.
I wouldn't be surprised at all if there is vaccination going on behind the backs of family and friends. I wish more would.
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@xenon said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:
@bachophile I don't think it's necessarily mistrust of government. It's a cultural signal to be anti-vax. Some people are getting vaxxed in secret so their family and friends don't know.
It's a similar phenomenon to virtue signaling.
I wouldn't be surprised at all if there is vaccination going on behind the backs of family and friends. I wish more would.
@brenda I think you are right.
When people are asked if they will get vaccinated (for job reasons, etc), there is a relatively "high" percent that say they would never do it.
For example, one US medical group workers said that 20% or so would not get vaccinated.
However, when final results were in, the un-vaccinated were less than a couple %.
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At the end of the day, people have to eat and pay the rent.
They may get vaxxed, but it leaves a nice, slow burn in place...
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/05/health/vaccine-misinformation-consequences/index.html
"Strong Conservative", after survived hospitalization with COVID-19, decides to get vaccinated, but is losing friends over it.
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Wonder how long they had to hunt for that story...
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@jolly
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2784480lots of them out there....
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At the end of the day, people have to eat and pay the rent.
They may get vaxxed, but it leaves a nice, slow burn in place...
@jolly said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:
At the end of the day, people have to eat and pay the rent.
They may get vaxxed, but it leaves a nice, slow burn in place...
As part of living in a civilized society, EVERYBODY has to put aside some of their personal preferences and beliefs.
You may be right, but if vaccine or testing requirements remain, I doubt it will bother people for too long. People have pretty short memories.
I remember when smoking bans were first put in place in Taiwan (and Taiwan had a pretty bad smoking culture). People against the smoking bans had the same passion as many people show against vaccines.
One year, two years after the ban were placed, there were no words of protest against it.
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Maybe I am not making you understand me.I think it applies to any country.
Want to get on an airplane? have to go through an x-ray machine.
But I think that X-rays machines are sucking the soul from my body. I cannot agree.
Okay. Than you can't fly.
My kids will be starting school next year.
Okay, you need immunization X, Y, Z
But I dont believe in those.
Okay, you cannot go to a public school.
Wearing clothes is like wearing a mask. An infringement on my rights.
Okay, but you are no longer allowed to go out in public.
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Maybe I am not making you understand me.I think it applies to any country.
Want to get on an airplane? have to go through an x-ray machine.
But I think that X-rays machines are sucking the soul from my body. I cannot agree.
Okay. Than you can't fly.
My kids will be starting school next year.
Okay, you need immunization X, Y, Z
But I dont believe in those.
Okay, you cannot go to a public school.
Wearing clothes is like wearing a mask. An infringement on my rights.
Okay, but you are no longer allowed to go out in public.
What exactly is being protected?
I mean exactly, without question.
That is unknown.
The question is not, what is the law? I don't think the mandate is actually a law.
The question is why?
The answer is just not very well defined.
I think we can all agree with, shut up. But there is an element of doubt.
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You're mandating a vaccine that does not prevent infection from the disease you may possibly be infected by. It also does not prevent you from transmitting that disease to others, whether they have been vaccinated or not.
So, why the mandate? And if the mandate is so effective, why limit it to only companies with over 100 employees?
I certainly can see government trying to persuade people to take the COVID vaccine. I can understand insurance companies raising rates on the unvaccinated.
But the COVID vaccine is not a vaccine in the traditional sense of the word, and the approach of public health should reflect that.
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