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RIP, Colin Powell

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  • LuFins DadL Offline
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    LuFins Dad
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    #14

    Wow, he looked young for his age. I thought he looked to be in his late 40's when he was serving under Bush.

    The Brad

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    • Catseye3C Catseye3

      From CDC: "Myeloma, also called multiple myeloma, is a cancer of the plasma cells. Plasma cells are white blood cells that make antibodies that protect us from infection. In myeloma, the cells grow too much, crowding out normal cells in the bone marrow that make red blood cells, platelets, and other white blood cells."

      Makes sense, in this case.

      MikM Offline
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      #15

      @catseye3 said in RIP, Colin Powell:

      From CDC: "Myeloma, also called multiple myeloma, is a cancer of the plasma cells. Plasma cells are white blood cells that make antibodies that protect us from infection. In myeloma, the cells grow too much, crowding out normal cells in the bone marrow that make red blood cells, platelets, and other white blood cells."

      Makes sense, in this case.

      Yet people will still point to this as a breakthrough case, positing that the vaccine doesn't work.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • George KG Offline
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        https://www.nature.com/articles/s41375-021-01354-7

        Thus, most MM patients have impaired responses to mRNA vaccination against COVID-19, and specific clinical and myeloma-related characteristics predict vaccine responsiveness.

        Oh, and Parkinson's.

        Add Parkinson’s disease to the list of health conditions that increase a person’s risk of hospitalization after contracting COVID-19, according to research from the Hartford HealthCare Chase Family Movement Disorders Center (CFMDC).

        A team of researchers led by CFMDC Medical Director Dr. Joy Antonelle de Marcaida also found that patients with Parkinson’s and other movement disorders are more likely to have more severe outcomes than the general population if they get COVID-19, especially if they have concomitant dementia.

        “While the COVID-19 pandemic has affected our work, our personal lives, our society . . . we had questions and concerns as to how this disease specifically affects the patients we care for,” said Dr. Jeffrey Lahrmann of CFMDC, part of Hartford HealthCare’s Ayer Neuroscience Institute.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • MikM Mik

          @catseye3 said in RIP, Colin Powell:

          From CDC: "Myeloma, also called multiple myeloma, is a cancer of the plasma cells. Plasma cells are white blood cells that make antibodies that protect us from infection. In myeloma, the cells grow too much, crowding out normal cells in the bone marrow that make red blood cells, platelets, and other white blood cells."

          Makes sense, in this case.

          Yet people will still point to this as a breakthrough case, positing that the vaccine doesn't work.

          bachophileB Offline
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          bachophile
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          #17

          @mik crazy

          Myeloma patients have no immune system. I doubt he could develop any viable antibodies from a vaccine. Any vaccine. Even mumps or measles.

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          • F Offline
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            Friday
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            Sorry to hear of his passing. Back in the day, I really thought he would run for president.

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            • MikM Mik

              @catseye3 said in RIP, Colin Powell:

              From CDC: "Myeloma, also called multiple myeloma, is a cancer of the plasma cells. Plasma cells are white blood cells that make antibodies that protect us from infection. In myeloma, the cells grow too much, crowding out normal cells in the bone marrow that make red blood cells, platelets, and other white blood cells."

              Makes sense, in this case.

              Yet people will still point to this as a breakthrough case, positing that the vaccine doesn't work.

              LuFins DadL Offline
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              LuFins Dad
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              @mik said in RIP, Colin Powell:

              @catseye3 said in RIP, Colin Powell:

              From CDC: "Myeloma, also called multiple myeloma, is a cancer of the plasma cells. Plasma cells are white blood cells that make antibodies that protect us from infection. In myeloma, the cells grow too much, crowding out normal cells in the bone marrow that make red blood cells, platelets, and other white blood cells."

              Makes sense, in this case.

              Yet people will still point to this as a breakthrough case, positing that the vaccine doesn't work.

              What I've seen are people posting that this proves how important the boosters are... Though, as @bachophile noted, he could have been getting boosters every day and it would;dn't have helped.

              The Brad

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              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                @mik said in RIP, Colin Powell:

                @catseye3 said in RIP, Colin Powell:

                From CDC: "Myeloma, also called multiple myeloma, is a cancer of the plasma cells. Plasma cells are white blood cells that make antibodies that protect us from infection. In myeloma, the cells grow too much, crowding out normal cells in the bone marrow that make red blood cells, platelets, and other white blood cells."

                Makes sense, in this case.

                Yet people will still point to this as a breakthrough case, positing that the vaccine doesn't work.

                What I've seen are people posting that this proves how important the boosters are... Though, as @bachophile noted, he could have been getting boosters every day and it would;dn't have helped.

                Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                Aqua Letifer
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                @lufins-dad said in RIP, Colin Powell:

                @mik said in RIP, Colin Powell:

                @catseye3 said in RIP, Colin Powell:

                From CDC: "Myeloma, also called multiple myeloma, is a cancer of the plasma cells. Plasma cells are white blood cells that make antibodies that protect us from infection. In myeloma, the cells grow too much, crowding out normal cells in the bone marrow that make red blood cells, platelets, and other white blood cells."

                Makes sense, in this case.

                Yet people will still point to this as a breakthrough case, positing that the vaccine doesn't work.

                What I've seen are people posting that this proves how important the boosters are... Though, as @bachophile noted, he could have been getting boosters every day and it would;dn't have helped.

                Not everyone has the health issues that he had.

                Please love yourself.

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                  RIP

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                  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                    @lufins-dad said in RIP, Colin Powell:

                    @mik said in RIP, Colin Powell:

                    @catseye3 said in RIP, Colin Powell:

                    From CDC: "Myeloma, also called multiple myeloma, is a cancer of the plasma cells. Plasma cells are white blood cells that make antibodies that protect us from infection. In myeloma, the cells grow too much, crowding out normal cells in the bone marrow that make red blood cells, platelets, and other white blood cells."

                    Makes sense, in this case.

                    Yet people will still point to this as a breakthrough case, positing that the vaccine doesn't work.

                    What I've seen are people posting that this proves how important the boosters are... Though, as @bachophile noted, he could have been getting boosters every day and it would;dn't have helped.

                    Not everyone has the health issues that he had.

                    LuFins DadL Offline
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                    @aqua-letifer said in RIP, Colin Powell:

                    @lufins-dad said in RIP, Colin Powell:

                    @mik said in RIP, Colin Powell:

                    @catseye3 said in RIP, Colin Powell:

                    From CDC: "Myeloma, also called multiple myeloma, is a cancer of the plasma cells. Plasma cells are white blood cells that make antibodies that protect us from infection. In myeloma, the cells grow too much, crowding out normal cells in the bone marrow that make red blood cells, platelets, and other white blood cells."

                    Makes sense, in this case.

                    Yet people will still point to this as a breakthrough case, positing that the vaccine doesn't work.

                    What I've seen are people posting that this proves how important the boosters are... Though, as @bachophile noted, he could have been getting boosters every day and it wouldn't have helped.

                    Not everyone has the health issues that he had.

                    Very few have the health issues he had. I'm just replying to Mik's concern that anti-vaxxers would point to this case and say "See! The vaccine didn't work!" That's not been the case. It's been people pointing to the need for Boosters.

                    The Brad

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                    • bachophileB bachophile

                      @mik crazy

                      Myeloma patients have no immune system. I doubt he could develop any viable antibodies from a vaccine. Any vaccine. Even mumps or measles.

                      AxtremusA Away
                      AxtremusA Away
                      Axtremus
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                      #23

                      Condolences to the Powells.

                      @bachophile said in RIP, Colin Powell:

                      Myeloma patients have no immune system. I doubt he could develop any viable antibodies from a vaccine. Any vaccine. Even mumps or measles.

                      What could have protected Gen. Powell was herd immunity -- if all those who came into contact with him were vaccinated or otherwise acquired immunity, Powell could have been spared from the disease.

                      Vaccination is not only to protect yourself, but also to protect those with whom you come into contact.

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                      • bachophileB Offline
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                        bachophile
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                        Now this is what’s called a real class act.

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                        • JollyJ Offline
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                          Jolly
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                          Counterpunch.

                          In one of his very last interviews, Powell took a shot at Trump.

                          Nobody ever said DJT can't hold a grudge.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • JollyJ Jolly

                            Counterpunch.

                            In one of his very last interviews, Powell took a shot at Trump.

                            Nobody ever said DJT can't hold a grudge.

                            Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                            @jolly said in RIP, Colin Powell:

                            Counterpunch.

                            In one of his very last interviews, Powell took a shot at Trump.

                            Nobody ever said DJT can't hold a grudge.

                            Counterpunch, when he's just died? Yeah, he got the last word in!

                            He even thinks Powell dying should be about him.

                            That guy is damaged.

                            I was only joking

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                              #27

                              Jesus. Just when you think he's gone as low as he can go . . .

                              Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                              • JollyJ Offline
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                                Jolly
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                                Does this mean you aren't voting for him?

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • George KG Offline
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                                  George K
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                                  #29

                                  The AP says the same thing, albeit more politely.

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                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    How is that "the same thing"? It's a completely different thing.

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                                    • George KG George K

                                      The AP says the same thing, albeit more politely.

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                                      @george-k said in RIP, Colin Powell:

                                      The AP says the same thing, albeit more politely.

                                      Well, to be fair, they called him 'exemplary', and they didn't go on about themselves.

                                      What Trump said wasn't just impolite. Impolite is belching during the funeral. He took a shit in Powell's casket.

                                      I was only joking

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                                        And I'm sure that people will be just as kind to him after he's dead.

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                          #33

                                          RIP General Powell.

                                          I would comment on the DJT statement but for the sake of decorum, I will refrain.

                                          Elbows up!

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